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Reply #45 - 06/12/20 at 23:50:36
 
Ahh, I got you.

Whoa, was there some sort of falling out that happened?
Hellbent won't come back? I must've missed something pretty sizable.

I would assume Wolfenhex isn't still co-hosting this site or the old?
I did notice the PayPal donation is still open on PayPal's website and able to donate to. Still says "Purpose: Twisted Metal Alliance."
The YouTube page Mort had uploaded last around 4 years ago. Playing TM for PS3.
The TMA Mort Twitter was last tweeted on 5 years ago.

It's super weird to me, for some reason, to just suddenly vanish from something you loved so much and poured so much into because of the passion. hmm..

Do we know who still is upkeeping the old original tmalliance.com page thats still up and has links to different things?

Thanks for that link to his last post, btw Mags.
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Reply #46 - 06/16/20 at 08:35:43
 
I think Wolf is still hosting the server. I'm not sure. It's been a long time. If not him I think it's Aced14. Either way, the site is practically dead as you can see and it's been like this for about 5-6 years now. Mort will never release anything TMA that he made. Be it the original site code, or the TMA 2.0 he was working on while we all hung out here waiting for it.

You missed a lot. You have to go through the sites older pages when you have time to try and find whatever your looking for. Good luck.

Hellbent was an amazing transformation to being one of the most respected people here, to being pretty Blair like. He was actually worse than Blair because he knew many of us personally and was attacking us that way. He was really sniping at Xizor and PS7. Ironically, him having a nasty triage with me after telling him he needed to chill the fuck out put the whole site against him. I wasn't even in the Brawl until that point because I didn't wanna be a part of what was going on, and he was trying to drag me in. So yea, I doubt he'd come back.

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Reply #47 - 06/16/20 at 16:52:00
 
Ahh, got you, got you. Weird, it seems like if it was something he (Mort) had lost interest in completely he would've handed it over to someone who was still in it. Hmm.
Wolf and I used to talk some graphics back in the day a bit. He was cool.

Man, I really did miss a lott.

Are you KIDDING me...Mag, you just blew my mind. Hellbent was like, THE guy when I disappeared. That's absolutely insane. I would've never thought that was the case.
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Reply #48 - 05/05/20 at 14:12:41
 
I talk to Wolf on occasion. I let him use all my music for his gaming projects and he let me host my sites on his server in return. He's a busy a guy. I do believe he still hosts this site because it probably doesn't cost him much more than what he already pays for what he needs.

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TMA died a horrible death because of a difference in philosophies. When TMX/TMPS3 came out in 2012, everyone rallied around it initially. The vets were really hoping for TMBO or TM2, but what we got was some new, unbalanced piece of garbage where everything was auto-aim - essentially TMHO 2. I picked up Roadie two weeks after launch and we both went to Gamestop and traded our copies in because we hated it. I don't think I've ever bounced off a muiltiplayer game so quickly.

Leading up to TMX and during it, there was an influx of new players who would constantly fight with vets over the mechanics of the game. It was the usual TMA brawls and flame wars you saw back in the day - a lot of dick measuring mixed in with actual rational thought. The fights were mainly over whether you could dodge weapons in TMX (which you really couldn't) and whether any skill was involved. It got to the point where new players would join, try to engage in the debate and then get ripped to shreds because that's how TMA is. So, people would leave the site and not come back.

Mortimer was pissed over this and voiced his concern over the toxicity of the community; even saying the Brawl board was going too far. I think he was concerned about his image being tarnished because TMA and himself made it into the credits of TMX and were mentioned by Jaffe on social media often. To me it felt like the old guard was no longer needed. The vets, who were the pillars of the TMA community, kept the community and games alive for a decade. However, now that the community was getting some media attention, it was time to clean house and bring in a better type of gamer. It was a nice thank you, fuck you, bye. We had a small community that would never grow beyond a certain point even with the attention it was getting, but Mort (who was NEVER around for years at a time) tells the core members that they're shit and not wanted here anymore. He founded the community and felt he was still in control over something he pretty much abandoned.

I strongly disagreed with this stance and so did many others. My position was that all of these "horrible things" were what made TMA so unique - it was why the community still existed. It was filled with characters and discussions about topics you wouldn't find anywhere else. We had also been like this for over a decade without any issue, so why now? Our entire world now has become filled with people who can't take an insult/joke, so it was a sign of the times maybe. People started becoming overly sensitive.

Essentially, Mort wanted everyone (mainly the vets) to stop swearing, leave people alone and carrying on like we usually did - some of us, not all, were unwelcoming. He wanted to tame the community as if we were juicier than TMBO Axel. Myself and others said that wouldn't happen and if the core TMA vets left the site it would die. We left and the site did die after the initial TMX excitement died off. We moved to our own private board which eventually died off too over the years because adulting is hard and nobody has time for anything anymore.

Many of us still keep in touch through Facebook messenger and other means. I recently played TMBO on the revival server and had a good night, but some of the people playing it (namely newer players) aren't my cup of tea. There's still people there arguing who the best is in a dead game, as an example.
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Reply #49 - 05/05/20 at 22:54:05
 
Wow, SynthR. Thank you so much for that. That explains exactly what I was wondering.

Man, thats sad. It's hard to believe, really. The trashing and "garbage" that went on, WAS TMA's way of conversing. We all knew and embraced that. It was honestly like no place else.
I think, and I hate to say it, I really took it for granted that it would always be the way it was.  Back then it felt like such a tightly woven (albeit dysfunctional) family. Back when I was a young fool, that I hated to love (haha).
I miss it, really. i think you're right, the whole adulting  situation definitely takes it's toll on these places as well. Which sucks because all the responsibilities and sometimes with the lack of levity/fun we need a place like TMA.

I think Twitter has proven to be a massive mistake that needs to just be nuked off the planet.

I ended up buying and beating the single player TMX because I got too excited upon seeing a new TM game release. Definitely wasn't a great experience.

I'm guessing guys like -SCoLD-, Nightshade, (moderators) just ended up leaving due to work/life etc?
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Reply #50 - 05/06/20 at 14:57:10
 
I have Scold and Nightshade on Facebook. They're both doing really well. Scold is doing his thing being a family man like I am. Nightshade is pursuing his dreams doing improv comedy with what looks like a comedy troupe.

There's a Facebook group for TM that most of us are a part of. It has the worst most basic bitch fans imaginable. It's worth a few laughs because the stuff people post is so cringy and god awful. It's like crayon drawings of new vehicle ideas and half-ass Sweet Tooth masks made out of paper mache It also has a lot of the disenfranchised people who would float onto this site, bringing all their insecurities and mental health issues into the fold.

There's this poor girl on there who Xizor "friended" just to see what she posts on her personal page. Man, the poor girl has serious issues. She posts these huge racist, xenophobic and homophobic rants that are prompted by nothing. So toxic and vicious. Then she hops on the TM group and goes on about wanting to sleep with Sweet Tooth and how she's actually Dollface. I can't honestly say that I have problems when I see what other people out there deal with.

I can only assume people like this are part of every community, but I don't have the experience to really say that. I can only speak for TM fans and the people we've seen pass through our community. I think the dark aspect of the TM series draws these types of people out.
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Reply #51 - 05/07/20 at 14:31:41
 
Being apart of both the TMBO community and here for years I can say I've seen some pretty strange people drawn to the series. We have a few strange ones today. Its something I've discussed a few times. Especially with the nature of TMB.

From people with personality disorders,autism, one pedophile (legit , no joke), furries and Scalies, inferiority complexes etc.

Surprisingly havent seen a hardcore racist yet.

And nothing against some of the people who are apart of those groups, most of them are decent people. The rest either disappeared with time or are a constant pain in the ass until they get bored.
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Reply #52 - 05/07/20 at 21:44:34
 
I forgot, I also have Scold and Nightshade on Facebook!
For some reason I don't see when they post. I also found  a few others on their that I remember from here but can NOT remember what the TMA name they go by was. One is really into BMX.

Did that Facebook group start during the TMA down/temp time? I feel like I joined it at some point or at least peeked inside years back. But it was the normal TMA crowd at that time.

I completely get the cringe being a pull. I've got a few YouTubers I go back to, to enjoy the cringe with a buddy of mine haha.

Eeesh, I guess you're right about the dark side of TM bringing them out. Any classic TMA-style thrashing their drawings or anything going on?

Is RoaDiE still around here? How is he doing?
Also Trych? We had some good convo messages back and forth. He helped me back in a crossroads of mine career-wise.
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Reply #53 - 05/08/20 at 14:38:29
 
No, the FB group is completely different. You'll have to see for yourself. Nothing really worth seeing other than pure, nonsensical fandom.

https://www.facebook.com/Twisted-Metal-115750191772092

Roadie is doing good. He just graduated nursing school, which he described as pure hell. He moved back to British Colombia so I haven't physically seen him in a few years.

Trych, never talked to him much unfortunately.

You can add me on FB, if you want. Go to Scold friend's list or someone from TMA and look for Matthew Le Blanc. Yes, Joey from Friends. I've heard every joke possible, so please contain yourself.
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Reply #54 - 05/11/20 at 07:38:24
 
Eeeesh...haha I joined, and yes definitely see the cringe factor.. some gorgeous graphics being done in there haha

Oh wow, I can only imagine that being crazy, I'm glad to hear Roadie's doing good! I always thought it was cool you guys lived close enough to be able to pick each other up and go places. Online it always seems like no one is at all close geographically.

It sucks that it's the only name I know with Trych. Hard to find a fella by.

I wouldn't dare make a joke like that! Wink haha, but it's actually pretty cool that it's your name. My fiance` would LOVE it if my name was someone from Friends haha.
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Reply #55 - 06/03/20 at 02:46:19
 
Hello everyone! Glad to see you are all doing well!  And yeah, I've been mostly busy with comedy stuff (I'm in 6 improv groups and 2 sketch groups) and life in general.

Also I'm a vehement liberal to my core who loathes the president and everything he stands for and that seems like a pretty big rift with people around here nowadays. I feel like we violently disagree on most things outside of the narrow scope of gaming, so it's not particularly enticing to post here anymore. I won't bring it up if you won't, though.

I am still playing games but I haven't played TM in a long time.

Anyhoo, here are a couple of short sketches I wrote/preformed:

https://youtu.be/KVJJ4-LlFag

https://youtu.be/wt3RW9NBvUE

https://youtu.be/AzUbodgYdes

And this is improv (all made up on stage) with my troupe "Middle-Aged Southern Women" - it's actually super easy with this troupe because we basically just sit and gab:

https://youtu.be/1Ebf6we-t7s

My theater(s) are closed due to COVID though and I have no idea when they'll re-open, let alone when people will feel comfortable going again. I certainly wouldn't yet. And who knows if they'll be able to sustain themselves that long. So that sucks.
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Reply #56 - 06/05/20 at 11:56:02
 
Night shade is still breathing as well. Good to see ya.

I didn't know we had anyone interested in theater. I'll have to watch some of those videos you posted.
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Reply #57 - 06/10/20 at 21:30:25
 

Hi, all! Hey V-Wing, great to see you're alive and well. Also thanks for asking about me lol. We are actually connected on Facebook, I'm Marcus Rampersad there.

A large part of my difficulties being active here has to do with logistics- I rely mostly on my phone because that's what I have with me most times, so navigating a website rather than an app would always be a bit more cumbersome. I do check in from time to time, and I'm generally always happy to see familiar faces doing well with themselves.

It's especially awesome to see so many of you guys pursuing stuff you love as careers, btw. 
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