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Twisted Metal Head On is the most boring TM game.
01/03/20 at 17:27:28
 
I am happy to see all the classic characters return but honestly the gameplay stages and music are so watered down that the game is so tedious to go through. First off every cars life pull is too low everyone dies way too fast and the weapons take no skill to use. Napalm is too forgivable you can literally just shoot it and hit people with a direct hit even if they are like 20 feet away. The driving is okay but you cant really dodge anything and the sound effects and atmosphere are so weak. You cant even really hear your car accelerating when driving only when you are using turbo. The mini games are also really boring besides the obstacle courses. The level design is so boring and the music for every level is so slow paced and boring and dont even get me started on the final boss theme it is literally slow techno music. Cousin eddy is a laughably stupid boss probably the worst in the series. This game overall is just so bland and doesnt deserve the praise it gets. The storylines are probably the only thing forgivable about the whole game.  I'm playing the extra twisted edition by the way. To top it all off it's only 2 players so you cant even play 4 player split screen lmao
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Reply #1 - 01/04/20 at 11:09:17
 
To each his own opinion.

Personally, I think the game is pretty cool because of the connection with TM2 and TMB it makes.  Also because the gameplay is pretty fair (though you lose health pretty quickly).  But if the TMHO side isn't fun enough, you can always switch to the TM:Lost side for a darker, more mysterious experience (especially with the Sweet Tour).  And then there's the modding opportunities for crossing each side over and playing unplayable vehicles and maps.
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Reply #2 - 01/04/20 at 15:34:49
 
I largely agree with you. It was a by the numbers Twisted Metal game, rushed to release. On a portable it was somewhat magical, but a lot of that is lost in the transition to the more powerful PS2. The single player is stupidly easy, and the multiplayer becomes endless swarm fests.

Lost is no better since it runs on the TMHO shell.

Finally, it was THIS game that ESP built upon, which led to the watered down gameplay of TMX.

Still, I have fond memories of playing it on the PSP. Back then, the future of TM seemed bright.
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Reply #3 - 01/04/20 at 22:34:15
 
I don't think I agree with you. The PS2 port was very good with the extra Twisted content. As for the music I personally like the Transylvania level. How can you not like Vampire's Teeth and the reminiscences Toccata and Fugue OST. As for the most boring TM might have to say TMSB.
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Reply #4 - 01/04/20 at 23:19:59
 
Grimgravesite13 wrote on 01/04/20 at 22:34:15:
I don't think I agree with you. The PS2 port was very good with the extra Twisted content. As for the music I personally like the Transylvania level. How can you not like Vampire's Teeth and the reminiscences Toccata and Fugue OST. As for the most boring TM might have to say TMSB.


As Jaffe himself has noticed, we're a very splintered fan base.

Fans like myself, care far more about how it plays.

Then there are others who really loved the stories and that experience.

Plus, as cool as the Lost content was to see, it wasn't as cool as if they'd just put the whole damn game on as a bonus, unfinished or not.

Regarding TMSB - I love it a ton, precisely because the gameplay is so solid in deathmatch mode.
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Reply #5 - 01/05/20 at 03:35:42
 
first of all I'm glad this post got so much traction and yes gameplay is everything too me and are the physics level design and weapon sandbox. Black is my favorite in terms of that with all the technical techniques of becoming good and even TMX is decently solid even though not as technical.

Head On might be a twisted metal 2 love letter aesthetically and story wise but it has the worst gameplay out of all the non 989 games by far. I love head on for stuff like the dark past documentary and tm black harbor city but other than that there is nothing to come back too. After I beat this unless a friend wants to play I'm shelving it perminately. p.s. I did 100% this when I was younger just wanted to revisit it
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Reply #6 - 01/05/20 at 03:41:13
 
I only like 4 songs in the game Vampires Teeth, the hard rock Greece theme, Tokyo streets and the song by Level on the big blue stadium
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Reply #7 - 01/07/20 at 08:15:37
 
I have mixed feelings on TMHO. I did have some fun with it but the game being less challenging made it pretty boring for the long haul. I loved the story and call backs though.
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Reply #8 - 01/16/20 at 12:37:53
 
Yeah, it may just be.

The concept of the game is not very good to begin with.
It tries to use nostalgia to its advantage but in the case of TMHO it wasn't necessary. I get that people at the time still wanted a good sequel to TM2 World Tour but the fact is TM Black and Small Brawl already did that... TMB may be a darker TM, and SB replaces cars with RC cars, and there is no world tour, but they are still heavily nostalgic and fit right in with the first 2 titles. Head-On had no reason to double down on the nostalgia for the sake of a mobile platform, and the result is a game that doesn't feel all that unique or interesting in comparison to it's brothers. The return of Grasshopper was probably the best aspect of TMHO, despite me not being a fan of that car, I do think it was wise to bring GH back one more time since it was a character with a personal tie to Calypso, who ought to be the main character of the series, instead of Kane.
I do enjoy the endings of TMHO for the most part, but I didn't really feel it was necessary to bring back some vehicles. Slam for one... Mr. Slam was honestly cooler in Small Brawl than in Head-On, I kind of wish they didn't ruin Slam in TMHO, there is no challenge in using him, and his ending wasn't that cool either, with him becoming a baby (fitting since TMHO Slam is a baby's car, that is - a car so easy to use a baby could win with it).
I felt like Twister didn't need to come back either honestly. And then the remaining returning vehicles have watered down designs and special weapons when compared to their predecessors.
And Dark Tooth/Tower Tooth was a disappointing boss battle in TMHO, like a watered down version of TM2's finale, an example of bigger is not better. 
Despite all the flaws though, I still enjoyed the maps, some of the music, and found the game fun albeit not particularly challenging (well, the mini games were tough, actually, but they were unimportant)... the nostalgia aspect of the game really doesn't do it for me though, it just comes across as unoriginal unlike the other TM sequels/spin-offs.
And the PS2 port Extra Twisted Edition is like the Mortal Kombat Armageddon of the series. There's a whole lot there, but it doesn't feel like it.
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Reply #9 - 01/17/20 at 12:19:52
 
I think we are also missing why this game was even made. Watch this video it explains it. It near the end of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df3aFU02QxI

MoshfieldAsylum wrote on 01/16/20 at 12:37:53:
Yeah, it may just be.

The concept of the game is not very good to begin with.
It tries to use nostalgia to its advantage but in the case of TMHO it wasn't necessary. I get that people at the time still wanted a good sequel to TM2 World Tour but the fact is TM Black and Small Brawl already did that... TMB may be a darker TM, and SB replaces cars with RC cars, and there is no world tour, but they are still heavily nostalgic and fit right in with the first 2 titles. Head-On had no reason to double down on the nostalgia for the sake of a mobile platform, and the result is a game that doesn't feel all that unique or interesting in comparison to it's brothers. The return of Grasshopper was probably the best aspect of TMHO, despite me not being a fan of that car, I do think it was wise to bring GH back one more time since it was a character with a personal tie to Calypso, who ought to be the main character of the series, instead of Kane.
I do enjoy the endings of TMHO for the most part, but I didn't really feel it was necessary to bring back some vehicles. Slam for one... Mr. Slam was honestly cooler in Small Brawl than in Head-On, I kind of wish they didn't ruin Slam in TMHO, there is no challenge in using him, and his ending wasn't that cool either, with him becoming a baby (fitting since TMHO Slam is a baby's car, that is - a car so easy to use a baby could win with it).
I felt like Twister didn't need to come back either honestly. And then the remaining returning vehicles have watered down designs and special weapons when compared to their predecessors.
And Dark Tooth/Tower Tooth was a disappointing boss battle in TMHO, like a watered down version of TM2's finale, an example of bigger is not better. 
Despite all the flaws though, I still enjoyed the maps, some of the music, and found the game fun albeit not particularly challenging (well, the mini games were tough, actually, but they were unimportant)... the nostalgia aspect of the game really doesn't do it for me though, it just comes across as unoriginal unlike the other TM sequels/spin-offs.
And the PS2 port Extra Twisted Edition is like the Mortal Kombat Armageddon of the series. There's a whole lot there, but it doesn't feel like it.

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Reply #10 - 01/17/20 at 16:01:50
 
MoshfieldAsylum wrote on 01/16/20 at 12:37:53:
Yeah, it may just be.

The concept of the game is not very good to begin with.
It tries to use nostalgia to its advantage but in the case of TMHO it wasn't necessary. I get that people at the time still wanted a good sequel to TM2 World Tour but the fact is TM Black and Small Brawl already did that... TMB may be a darker TM, and SB replaces cars with RC cars, and there is no world tour, but they are still heavily nostalgic and fit right in with the first 2 titles. Head-On had no reason to double down on the nostalgia for the sake of a mobile platform, and the result is a game that doesn't feel all that unique or interesting in comparison to it's brothers. The return of Grasshopper was probably the best aspect of TMHO, despite me not being a fan of that car, I do think it was wise to bring GH back one more time since it was a character with a personal tie to Calypso, who ought to be the main character of the series, instead of Kane.
I do enjoy the endings of TMHO for the most part, but I didn't really feel it was necessary to bring back some vehicles. Slam for one... Mr. Slam was honestly cooler in Small Brawl than in Head-On, I kind of wish they didn't ruin Slam in TMHO, there is no challenge in using him, and his ending wasn't that cool either, with him becoming a baby (fitting since TMHO Slam is a baby's car, that is - a car so easy to use a baby could win with it).
I felt like Twister didn't need to come back either honestly. And then the remaining returning vehicles have watered down designs and special weapons when compared to their predecessors.
And Dark Tooth/Tower Tooth was a disappointing boss battle in TMHO, like a watered down version of TM2's finale, an example of bigger is not better. 
Despite all the flaws though, I still enjoyed the maps, some of the music, and found the game fun albeit not particularly challenging (well, the mini games were tough, actually, but they were unimportant)... the nostalgia aspect of the game really doesn't do it for me though, it just comes across as unoriginal unlike the other TM sequels/spin-offs.
And the PS2 port Extra Twisted Edition is like the Mortal Kombat Armageddon of the series. There's a whole lot there, but it doesn't feel like it.


I think you hit the nail on the head in a lot of areas.

It's important to remember that it was a RUSHED PSP game. As a PSP game, and a very innovative game for a  handheld, it was pretty impressive. Over the years though, it has not aged all that well.

Your point that it largely bilks TM2's scenarios is probably the biggest reason. It's almost like a high def remake, only with dumbed down gameplay. Some things that really bugged me:

1. Paris . . . I mean been there done that. Eiffel Tower and all. It wasn't horribly done, but it wasn't memorable either.

2. Mr. Slam . . . yeah WTF.

3. Dark Tooth. WTF. What was once one of the scariest boss fights of all time was now a complete snooze fest.

4. Tower Tooth - Something about this one just never clicked. It felt SO over the top - though then TMX came out and reinvented over the top.

I dunno, I just liked it when the vehicles seemed like they could plausibly be a contestant.

5. Marcus Kane/Needles relationship - what a horribly stupid idea.


I did like that this one returned the focus to Calypso.
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Reply #11 - 02/12/20 at 05:12:31
 
I liked that game.
A thing I didn't like was the new cars. A weaker Mr. Grimm and the Hillbilly car weren't memorable enough.
The levels were kind of bad too, at least they didn't leave an impression.
But what I disliked the most was the game keeping TMB gameplay instead of TM 2. I really hate the commands for the special moves in those, TM2 was perfect, except the back ice ones.
Anyways glad they brought back Crimson Fury since he is my fav.
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Reply #12 - 02/14/20 at 00:41:49
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/04/20 at 15:34:49:
I largely agree with you. It was a by the numbers Twisted Metal game, rushed to release. On a portable it was somewhat magical, but a lot of that is lost in the transition to the more powerful PS2. The single player is stupidly easy, and the multiplayer becomes endless swarm fests.

Lost is no better since it runs on the TMHO shell.

Finally, it was THIS game that ESP built upon, which led to the watered down gameplay of TMX.

Still, I have fond memories of playing it on the PSP. Back then, the future of TM seemed bright.



I think what you said about it being a by the numbers TM game perfectly describes TMHO. But I don't necessarily think of that as a bad thing because it also seems fine-tuned in a way. No other TM you can say that about; so I'm glad it exists. In addition, it has a squeaky clean look. Not to get off subject, but I kinda feel like Halo 3 had a similar feel of trying to fine-tune what makes a Halo game. Then, Halo: Reach went back to experimentation, originality and art. That's what we need right now is a TM game that breaks new ground again like TM2 and TMB or even TM1 (it started the whole TM concept). But, as it stands, I like that TMHO exists and shows almost like a standard blueprint of what makes a TM game. It's basic Twisted Metal, but still well executed for what was/is. The game actually holds my interest because of what it is and what it's trying to do that I think would otherwise be a bit bland and boring had I not come to that realization. I like it on both PSP and PS2, btw, and both have a different, overall experience (definitely don't just pick and choose one over the other; but play both).

I think it helps to understand how you truly feel about TMHO when you rank all of the TM games. For me, it goes like this:

1. TM2/TMB (sorry, I can't decide)
2. TM1
3. TMHO
4. TMX
5. TMSB
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6. TM4
7. TM3
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As you can see, TMHO is pretty high on the list; right after the best Twisted Metal games out there...
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Reply #13 - 02/20/20 at 06:10:36
 
I can see your thinking, and there are some good points. I think it ranks higher as a PSP game than a home console release. Looking at it that way, I'd probably go:

1. TMB
2. TM2
3. TMHO (PSP) Online functionality plays a big role here.
4. TM1
5. TMSB
6. TMHO (PS2)
7. TMX/TM4 (Hard to say which is better)
8. TM3

It is also hard for me knowing TMHO played a huge role in Harbor City being canceled, but it's not really fair to judge the actual game based on that.
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Reply #14 - 05/17/20 at 02:03:23
 
I just don't understand why people list TMX that low when its the 3rd best in the franchise in terms of gameplay after TM2 and Black.
Also Small Brawl above TM3? Really? Small Brawl sucks and TM3 is miles better.

My list:

1. TM2
2. TMB
3. TMX
4. TM3
5. Head On
6. TM4
7. TM1
8. TMSB
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