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09/05/18 at 00:06:41
 
Racing has always been a big thing for me and something I loved. I started young with Gran Turismo and Jet Moto. While I know many people probably are not going to spout off on this thread, It'll give me a place to dump my thoughts.

Recently found out about super modifieds. These things look like an F1 car on crack with a wing slapped on top:

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"cars are powered by American fuel-injected V8 engines that run on methanol fuel and can produce in excess of 800 horsepower. At a weight of around 1,850 pounds the cars achieve an enormous power-to-weight ratio."

I don't know about how you feel but that sounds fun as hell to me.



Once I get my new sim racing rig set up I may have to see if there is a Rfactor mod out there for these. I know it's nothing like racing the real thing, but it seems like it could be a real good time.
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Reply #1 - 09/05/18 at 18:12:11
 
Racing sims are way better now than they have ever been. PC is really where it is at. Some people have some serious set ups that I have seen online.

I've always loved auto racing. From when I was a kid watching the modified, street stock cars on my hometown's dirt track. It was always special when they hosted the sprint cars for the weekend. They look like those Modified's in your pictures but smaller. 

Then taking every chance I could get to watch Nascar on Sunday. It was difficult because I am originally from upstate NY, and this was in the early 80's. TV up there didn't televise many races. Had to keep up by checking the newspaper every Monday. TBH, I was Nascar before Nascar became cool and "mainstream" like it is now. Was lucky to be able to even see a "Bush" series race back then. 

Always liked the Indy cars, (esp Indy 500) Imsa. I really miss the IROC races. Liked catching anything from the 24 hours of Le Mans, 12 from Sebring. F1 is really awesome but back then, the time difference was a huge factor. Even though I can record it on my cable box easily now, (or any racing) my interest was never there to follow it seriously. That has, and always looked to be some serious shit right there.    

I was really into racing but, my interest hasn't been like it used to be. I have drivers I like in the Nascar series now but, it's not enough to hold my interest anymore so I can't really call myself a real fan.
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Reply #2 - 09/06/18 at 01:13:50
 
I've always loved all forms of racing but am I glad you brought up the winged sprint cars.

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Much like you some of my favorite racing is just about anything you can throw on a dirt oval. (Midgets, Modifieds, Late Models, winged and nonwinged sprints.) But the winged sprints hold a special place in my heart. Back in 98 my father bought a wrecked sprint car to repair and use in junior sprint racing. In other words I would be racing.

Although that dream never came to fruition, because my dad got sick and we lost our business at the time, I still enjoyed the racing. Much like you I don't watch every race or have a racer I follow, but I do play World of Outlaws 2002 with my current set up, which I plan on upgrading at somepoint and run a serious league on iRacing where real racers sim race and you can actually win money.

It's not the real thing no, but its the closest I can get to it thats for sure. There was also an rFactor mod for sprints but rFactor mainly being asphalt with dirt modded in really didnt make it feel right. Though some people sware by it.

I've followed a group called Team VLR for a few years now. A great group of people who can race their asses off. This is the group I plan on running with once I get my new set up. Not that my current one is bad. Just a tad outdated and doesnt work well with iRacing.
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Reply #3 - 09/06/18 at 21:05:51
 
Yea. The real sprint cars are hella fun to watch. Always tried to make the track when they came to my hometown's track.

I did get an offer to drive the street stock racers but like an ass, I decided to smoke weed and party. There was a chance and I blew it.

Since I've lost interest in the sport itself, I haven't watched anything but the Daytona 500. It's a real shame too because I was always looking forward to the next week.
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Reply #4 - 09/07/18 at 22:31:16
 
I realized something earlier today. A while ago I was trying to come up with a youtube series around racing. I realized I was doing wayyy too much.

What a lot of people don't realize is a lot of time goes into one single race. It's kind of a lot of R&D when it comes to tuning your car for a track. Temperature, track compound and humidity all play a huge role in a race. It takes a lot of time and patience. Anyone tells you can be competitive without tuning your car, promptly kick them in the nuts. It's for your own good.

A good set up is what gives you that edge to be the fastest on the track. The only issue is in sim racing it is just one person messing with these set ups rather than a team of trained professionals. So each tweak is done on your own, little by little until you have that car where you want it.

This can take anywhere from 5 hours to 10 hours. to eek out all the bugs and get the car to a comfortable

When I originally started my Sim racing schedule on Youtube Channel the original idea was to do 3 series in a week and then a random series on the weekends. That's not feasible with the amount of work that goes into getting one of these cars track ready even in a sim enviroment.

Once I get back into it again and have my set up all ready to go, (Just moved recently.) I think I'll start recording my runs again, but only once a week instead of multiple a week and focusing mostly on sprint cars until I attempt an iRacing career. Which that will have to follow my climb up the ladder to get to sprint cars.

Anyway, since I kept talking about it here's some videos I uploaded of me racing. My goal was to keep these as realistic as possible so I had one day for set up, one day for practice and then race. What place I got was the place I had. None of the difficulties are set on easy either. So don't expect a podium finish in every race. Without further ado, here they are:





Wayyy to aggressive at the start of this one. man.







After cramming too much on my plate at once I got burned out after that point. I realize it in hind sight. When I get to recording again I think I am going to do a new format. A cockpit cam for those who want to see it and a replay style for those who prefer to see the whole race.
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Reply #5 - 09/08/18 at 09:33:35
 
Apparently indy racing is coming back. Haven't heard anything about indy racing in YEARS and smack out of nowhere Indy Racing came by St.louis missouri and made 40 million dollars. Thats nuts.

Indy really fell out of popularity there for awhile among other issues but hopefully this means it will be working its way back to the lime light. After introducing more road courses and slimming down on the ovals Im pretty sure they series has gotten a lot more interesting as the American version of formula 1.
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Reply #6 - 09/08/18 at 15:55:04
 
IndyCar has been making somewhat of a comeback due to closer competition, near equal regulations, and the mini stint with Fernando Alonso in last year's Indy 500. If Alonso joins IndyCar next year, he'll definitely get some more Europeans and Spaniards watching it. Personally, I like Alexander Rossi from Indy and wish he had a seat in F1. Some missed potential there. I've already knew of a few other drivers that I liked but there's something else that piques my interest a bit toward Indy.

Speaking of F1, it's become a rather disappointing spectacle. Too predictable, as is said by various people. Two people win, blahblahblah. However, I'm not a fan of this whole shit of "B-teams". Feels degrading for the next generation of drivers once Hamilton and Raikkonen leave. Some of the tracks today look ugly. Did you see the France GP? The visual track layout looked horrible. Ruined a great track. Why bother bringing it back?

Something I've come to love for the past 6 years or so is MotoGP. Riders are pushing themselves to the limit and the competition has also gotten a bit closer but it's sad to see Yamaha lose its stride recently. At least Ducati finally got something going for them after nearly a decade of shitty bike development. Marquez is just a phenomena to watch, nothing more to add to that.
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Reply #7 - 09/09/18 at 03:01:50
 
Formula 1 has introduced a new safety system that I wasn't all that aware of, as I don't follow F1 all that closely. (As Infernal pointed out its pretty much same old same old over and over.)

They call it the Halo system.  What it does is pretty much gives a over head to the formula 1 cars to protect the driver themselves. While I am all for safety I'll admit the thing is quite ugly, and does limit the view of the driver:

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Even though this is the case, it did come quite handy in a wreck recently where a fellow driver missed his breaking point and flew into another driver:

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There is no doubt that this new safety feature saved Charles Leclerc from serous injury or death, but the question as it goes, does such a device compromise the open cockpit origin of Formula racing?

IndyCar is also looking at the safety standards of the open cockpit, but with a much different approach.

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The Indy windscreen is currently under going ballistic testing and hasn't been deployed yet, but looks to be a strong alternative to the Formula Halo, of which Indy took a little criticism for not adopting, but the reason is simple. On a Oval track the Halo would block too much of a drivers view.

Both Series have learned quite a bit from one another. Without Formula there would be no Indy, without Indy a lot of safety standards and innovations would not have made its way to Formula.

In my honest opinion I prefer the Indy standard,  as it doesn't compromise visibility to the driver. But the Formula 1's halo has been deployed and has shown promise to aid drivers in the event of a over head crash.

We'll see which way it goes in the time to come, only time will tell.
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Reply #8 - 09/09/18 at 11:17:27
 
Actually, F1 had already tried the Windscreen prior to the Halo's implementation. Some drivers complained about the glare messing up their view but it was ultimately decided that the halo was safer than the other devices tested based on the data collected. It didn't beat it by a landslide though. Think it was about a 17% increase in safety. I don't like it but at this point if the cars are able to go faster than it is now then I wouldn't be against it. Unfortunately, they're projected to go about 1.5 seconds slower next year due to new rules.

It's normal for F1 to have teams that dominate but it's usually in short stints of about 2 years or so. Mercedes have dominated for 3-4 seasons but so far only Ferrari picked up their pace. It's now a manufacturer's championship. If you're not one, you're practically finished. I mean look at McLaren. One of the greatest but has been a laughingstock and will continue to be one until hopefully the next set of regulations.
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Reply #9 - 09/09/18 at 21:12:34
 
Its actually possible to make glass or types of plexiglass glareless. I wonder why F1 didn't attempt such.
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Reply #10 - 09/12/18 at 08:55:56
 
Reading more on Super Modifieds the more interesting it gets.

"Supermodifieds are Unique
Nearly all supermodifieds are built by hand in the car owner’s garage using methods as old as the auto industry.  It’s not a simple task using a lathe by hand to ‘turn’ a part that you can’t buy off of the shelf and this is part of the reason there are so few supermodifieds in the entire United States and Canada.  It’s a very tedious and tricky process making those machined parts fit just right on a one-off race car, and it takes a special breed of machinist, and tin man to continue on with this laborious effort. Supermodified owners, builders, drivers, crewmen, and fans tend are those that are artistic, out of the box thinkers that thrive on individualism.

Over the years the supers have been a proving ground for up and coming open wheel racers that moved on to make it big at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and other professional racing divisions. These cars originally evolved from modified coupes in places as far-flung as Michigan, Idaho, Alabama, and Ohio. The supermodified has stayed true to its moniker-SUPER and MODIFIED, as the last of the true “run whatcha brung” outlaw race cars."

From: http://suprs.net/site/about/learn-about-supermodified-race-cars/

If you want to read more on it, I recommend that link, but it really makes sense why this type of racing isn't widely popular due to the limited access of it and having no main manufacturer to make parts for you.
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Reply #11 - 09/13/18 at 03:39:02
 
Probably the reason why they didn't go with the "glass" is because in Nascar, the windshield gets pretty pitted by debris. So if there isn't some kind of way of keeping it clean, you'll never see much halfway through the race. Now they have tear away's for that. I'm not sure if it's practical for an F1 team or an Indy Team to have a curved shield like that with tabs for tear offs. These guys are way smarter than me so, that's my best guess.

I know that tear offs are used on the face shields for open wheel drivers on dirt and stuff but that's helmet only. The F1 design looks like crap I agree. No matter how hard any form of racing tries, cars will still go air borne from time to time. All forms of racing have done very well in reducing it. I just think for open wheel, the horseshoe in the back of the cockpit on the Indy car looks better, along with the curved shield. 
 
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