Malefactor wrote on 05/03/18 at 11:35:35:
I think the disconnect is this: In TMBO we happily played with newbs and balanced it just fine. We had no reason to kick people as the depth allows us to balance perfectly.
Well obviously, if someone connects to the revival server they'll most likely have gone through TMA to set up, and are in the loop if they connect when others come on to play. On the flip side, if a random player joined a TMBO TLMS and ignored there being teams, picked up health and didn't play within the rules, it would not be appreciated. If they didn't communicate and continued that pattern, it surely would lead to that player not being welcome in those types of lobbies anymore. In correspondence to what you're saying of TM 2012, you're saying that the TMBO vets would be dicks in this scenario and not the one who's not playing within the rules?
Whatever you're trying to argue about depth makes zero sense either. You've claimed over and over that a veteran can dominate novices in TMBO and that a novice could quickly learn to compete with a veteran since you say TM 2012 is 'dumbed down'. Yet you now say it's easy to balance veterans with newbs in TMBO and that the reason newbs are kicked from TM 2012 is because of depth? That's completely ass backwards. If someone only wants to screw around or play as a casual, there's other rooms to accomodate them. There's enough novice players that still play the game that they don't need to play in our lobbies.
If it weren't for the competitive nature of the game, I wouldn't still be playing it. What you're suggesting is like taking a couple semi-pro sports teams, swapping out a portion of their rosters with people who have never played the game before, and suggesting the game would be just as intense. It obviously wouldn't be because those players slow down the pace, kill the intensity and are only a detriment to the team. They can play with players of their own skill level while we play with players of our own skill level. If they want to improve, we welcome helping them outside of those lobbies. If they don't, then they can get enjoyment out of the game in their own way without interfering with us. There's nothing dickish about it.