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02/03/18 at 06:08:14
 
With Activision/Sony's remaster/remake of the Crash Trilogy being a success, and the slated to be remastered Medievil, how much of a chance could we have for a remaster of Twisted Metal 1 or 2? I mean, if Medievil can get one, TM is even more well known and profitable in the past for Sony. Out of all the PS1 games, I think TM2 holds up pretty well, as in not being super dated. Let's just hope they don't pick TMIII or 4  Shocked
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Reply #1 - 02/03/18 at 06:53:59
 
They should do the same for its counterpart WarHawk. But overall, I believe it's fair for Sony to put this to work.

Before this post was even made, I had the idea of something called "Twisted Metal Maker", like Super Mario Maker, where you can create your own battlegrounds, vehicles, and assign weapons. You can base the gameplay off of either TM1, TM2, TMB, or TM2012.
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Reply #2 - 02/04/18 at 03:38:40
 
I highly doubt it.

Medieval fans have been clamoring for a new one since the dawn of the internet and never got it.

Twisted metal had a new entry and Sony saw that as the worth of the franchise. Don't hold your breath.


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Reply #3 - 02/04/18 at 16:20:04
 
Immortal_Reaper wrote on 02/03/18 at 06:08:14:
With Activision/Sony's remaster/remake of the Crash Trilogy being a success, and the slated to be remastered Medievil, how much of a chance could we have for a remaster of Twisted Metal 1 or 2? I mean, if Medievil can get one, TM is even more well known and profitable in the past for Sony. Out of all the PS1 games, I think TM2 holds up pretty well, as in not being super dated. Let's just hope they don't pick TMIII or 4  Shocked


We're almost to the point where we could remake the levels in TM2 with HD textures. We may be able to add custom cars at some point.
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Reply #4 - 02/04/18 at 16:37:07
 
Who needs a remaster when TM2 modding tools are almost ready for PC. We've been working on some cool shit. Marltoro is a master craftsman haha.
Give it a little longer and TM2 is going to make a great comeback.
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Reply #5 - 02/05/18 at 07:18:31
 
I agree with these guys here. This is where it's at.
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Reply #6 - 02/05/18 at 09:10:10
 
†Adonael wrote on 02/04/18 at 03:38:40:
Medieval fans have been clamoring for a new one since the dawn of the internet and never got it.

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Reply #7 - 02/05/18 at 20:51:58
 
No, it won’t happen because TM:2012 killed and buried the series.

It’s an unjust world and you and I are fans of a perma *?!@#ed series.

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Reply #8 - 02/06/18 at 18:31:26
 
Malefactor wrote on 02/05/18 at 20:51:58:
No, it won’t happen because TM:2012 killed and buried the series.

It’s an unjust world and you and I are fans of a perma *?!@#ed series.

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Fuck Sony, we can just mod TM2. We even got HD textures working in TM2.

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Reply #9 - 02/11/18 at 19:39:57
 
Woah, that stage video is pretty neat.  An amazing start to a good modded game.  Are you guys gonna be able to make new vehicles, too?
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Reply #10 - 02/11/18 at 20:15:48
 
Ripzsaur wrote on 02/05/18 at 09:10:10:


I must be psychic. Or the internet just really hates me.

Anyway, bottom line is Twisted metal probably won't be touched for a very long time due to the brand damage done with TMX and all the online bugs.

Basically what malfactor and I've already stated.

Plus with Marltoro's work we can keep twisted metal 2 fresh as long as people keep making content for it. That right there is all we really need.

I'm not too worried about new vehicles as I am levels. New arenas would really keep things fresh like it did with the old FPS community.

There's a reason people still stick around and play the old UT, Quakes, etc, etc.
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Reply #11 - 02/12/18 at 04:59:48
 
Vlygar wrote on 02/11/18 at 19:39:57:
Woah, that stage video is pretty neat.  An amazing start to a good modded game.  Are you guys gonna be able to make new vehicles, too?


Right now we can only replace vehicle skins but some time in the future I'd like to be able to add cars to the game. But right now I'm 100% focused on the map editor. Even after the first release of the map editor I have to figure out other things like adding teleporters and other interactive objects found in levels.

Here's a nearly finished level modeled by Mr.SLaM. We've also added lighting effects since that video.

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Reply #12 - 02/17/18 at 12:50:21
 
Immortal_Reaper wrote on 02/03/18 at 06:08:14:
With Activision/Sony's remaster/remake of the Crash Trilogy being a success, and the slated to be remastered Medievil, how much of a chance could we have for a remaster of Twisted Metal 1 or 2? I mean, if Medievil can get one, TM is even more well known and profitable in the past for Sony. Out of all the PS1 games, I think TM2 holds up pretty well, as in not being super dated. Let's just hope they don't pick TMIII or 4  Shocked


A TM2 HD remaster is the only hope for a new TM game. TM2 was the best selling game of the series, PS1 remakes are popular and making money, and a TM2 remake is a fairly cheap project so you could sell 1 million copies at a modest price point and have it be profitable.

You could make a 15-20$ HD remake with online capabilities and I think you sell enough to make it profitable. Maybe if a TM2 remake sells well Sony dips their toe back into the series but banking on the nostalgia of a past game is the franchises only hope right now.

A new game is too risky for Sony but banking on an old successful game that could be done affordably and is much less of a risk. Do I think it will happen? I put the chances at 40%. How many more PS1 remasters could they do? And how many other PS1 games would be ahead of TM2?

But positively, Sony doesn't have that many PS1 first party games as popular as TM2. Crash they already did and Medievil is in the pipeline. TM2 is one of the most popular Sony first party games from that era. So I think it possible but not that likely.
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Reply #13 - 02/17/18 at 14:13:19
 
tmfan89 wrote on 02/17/18 at 12:50:21:
A TM2 HD remaster is the only hope for a new TM game. TM2 was the best selling game of the series, PS1 remakes are popular and making money, and a TM2 remake is a fairly cheap project so you could sell 1 million copies at a modest price point and have it be profitable.

You could make a 15-20$ HD remake with online capabilities and I think you sell enough to make it profitable. Maybe if a TM2 remake sells well Sony dips their toe back into the series but banking on the nostalgia of a past game is the franchises only hope right now.

A new game is too risky for Sony but banking on an old successful game that could be done affordably and is much less of a risk. Do I think it will happen? I put the chances at 40%. How many more PS1 remasters could they do? And how many other PS1 games would be ahead of TM2?

But positively, Sony doesn't have that many PS1 first party games as popular as TM2. Crash they already did and Medievil is in the pipeline. TM2 is one of the most popular Sony first party games from that era. So I think it possible but not that likely.


If Sony is going in the direction of remastering a classic TM game I don't think they should limit it to TM2 alone. The Crash Bandicoot remaster succeeds not only in the nostalgic level, but in being 3 games in 1. Would you rather buy say, a 20 dollar TM2 remaster, or buy a 40 dollar remaster with 3 remastered TM titles? I think a collection would work best but then you have to ask yourself what are the other games... me personally I think I would go with TM1, TM2 (with a TM2 PC style multiplayer), and TM Black Online (since the story version is already available on PSN). A multiplayer-centric collection would be amazing... TM1 would be something that could appeal to fans of 1 vs 1 and fighting games who find TM2/Black's online too chaotic.
I also think a remastered version of TM Small Brawl would be pretty cool. The game's biggest flaw was graphics, so technically that game could benefit the most from being redone.
Then there's TM3&4. I don't think there is enough demand in those being remastered. They weren't even  ps1 classics for PS3, but another potential strategy for Sony is to release a full priced 50-60 dollar game that had all 5 PS1 Twisted Metal games. They could also do the opposite and focus on TM Black, Head-On, and TM 2012 getting the remastered treatment and release that as a full priced game, but eh, that would be dumb.
There's a lot of ways they can go with a remaster but to me a multiplayer-centric collection with TM1, TM2, and TMBO would be the smartest move... it'd attract new fans to the series.
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Reply #14 - 02/18/18 at 13:11:15
 
MoshfieldAsylum wrote on 02/17/18 at 14:13:19:
...Then there's TM3&4. I don't think there is enough demand in those being remastered. They weren't even  ps1 classics for PS3...

I'm gonna have to disagree with that.
In my area, all of my friends who had heard of the game were always fans of 3 and 4. I'm in that 19-25 area, so most of us grew up when TM3 and 4 were all over the stores for a low price. As a matter of fact, it wasn't until I found TMA that I even knew there was a disdain for TM3 and 4. The reviews don't lie, it wasn't reviewed well either. However, I think nostalgia is powerful, and would definitely sell these games. I'm not sure why they weren't on PS Classics. Buuuuut, I could just have no scope of the world and just be talking about my immediate area.

I think what they should do is what the Crash Trilogy did but break it up at the same time, like what they did with some of the PS2 HD Collections. Remaster all of the PS1 TM games and then release them all in a collection for $60. Then, offer each game for $15 a piece instead in addition to the bundle. That way,
new consumers could buy just one game, nostalgia would sell multiple different games and the hardcore fans would buy all five of them. If somebody buys one and likes it, they would likely buy all five of the games sometime in the future.

If it was marketed well, the commercial would be a really cool animated segment going through the different games, transitioning between them seamlessly starting with TM1. Then maybe TM1 Crimson would land in TM2 Paris and get blown up by Mr. Slam, who would fall into L.A. Ruins from TM3 and so on until a car is blown up at the end where a little kid watches the car skid on its side to a stop. The kid was standing on a street in his neighborhood driving a RC car and it shows him start to get an idea. End it with the screen fading to black while the TM HD Collection Logo is shot out of the screen with bullet holes and an explosion reveals it. Instant nostalgia and intrigue from new buyers.

I think it would be absolutely huge.

But I'd be okay with just TM2 and Small Brawl from the PS1 remastered with really tight game engines.
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