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Reply #15 - 07/29/17 at 16:34:09
 
I hope I don't die of old age before the next great TM comes out.

For the last 3-4 years I predicted there would be a new TM announcement at the 2017 E3 show.

So much for my physic powers.

So Jaffe got a rude phone call....that's about all I got out of this post, I knew everything else and I do agree with all the comments everyone made except for the person who started this post from the beginning.






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Reply #16 - 07/29/17 at 17:32:59
 
Muddeh wrote on 07/29/17 at 11:47:10:
Jaffe's response:

https://twitter.com/MuddyMaestro/status/889968753282121728

Blunt response is blunt.


Ugggh . . .  as usual Muddeh you don't seem on point. I don't feel like you asked him a legitimate version of what we were saying. It doesn't even seem all that on topic (slandered - that word doesn't even apply).

His answer is blunt though.  Still wish you hadn't of asked it.
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Reply #17 - 07/29/17 at 21:28:39
 
Wow, I really don't want to be mean but Muddeh your comprehension is atrocious. I knew it was bad from the various threads over the years but I was not expecting this. Your question to him was way off and on top of that asked in way that he could easily weasel out of it.

However it really doesn't matter though I expected a blunt answer or silence no matter what was asked. We already know that one of the following is true. He either didn't really know who he was talking to which would make him look like a moron. He made it up to take a jab at TMA especially at Mortimer and downplay his failures which makes him a scumbag. Mortimer himself even asked him wtf he was talking about on the youtube video. I guess hes too much of a coward to address it, I'm sure he'll play victim some more in future streams/interviews.

Malefactor wrote on 07/27/17 at 03:30:08:
I've never shared this particular Jaffe story and since it's part of Twisted Metal's history, and this thread has gained life (so thank you for giving this site energy for a bit), I'm going to share it.  Since it's a Jaffe story it's relevant too.


Some day Jaffe's going to tell his version of this story and it will be a little different....

"I remember one time this crazed asshole fan called me up and was going off on me about how he wanted twisted metal made. I made it pretty clear to him that I was in the middle of giving an eulogy at my dad's funeral. After berating me some more he finally hung up. Not but 5 minutes go by and I see someone come charging into the funeral home. It was the same asshole on the phone and he then REALLY started giving me shit about wanting to dodge machine gun fire or some shit. Finally before he walked out he slapped me across face then knocked the coffin on the floor. I knew at that point that I was never going to please the hardcore crowd."

Malefactor wrote on 07/27/17 at 05:00:50:
So I asked Mort in AIM. He responded and said, "No, that's very much fake news."


Well its good to know that if Jaffe's game making career comes to an end that he'll have a promising career at CNN.

Seriously though Jaffe could take like 10 minutes to make an account and post more details here if this really happened. I and I'm sure everyone else would like to know exactly what went on if anything and who he was talking to. However since he never bothered to post here when he was working on the game then there is no way he will now.
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Reply #18 - 07/29/17 at 23:28:00
 
Malefactor wrote on 07/29/17 at 17:32:59:
Ugggh . . .  as usual Muddeh you don't seem on point. I don't feel like you asked him a legitimate version of what we were saying. It doesn't even seem all that on topic (slandered - that word doesn't even apply).

His answer is blunt though.  Still wish you hadn't of asked it.

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OP's post was about the phone call which Jaffe seemed to pull out of his ass, or otherwise greatly hyperbolized. Jaffe didn't like how fanbase received the game and can't justify the fact he didn't listen to the fans, so he slandered them to play the victim. So yes, it is an appropriate word to use.

The Truth wrote on 07/29/17 at 21:28:39:
Wow, I really don't want to be mean but Muddeh your comprehension is atrocious. I knew it was bad from the various threads over the years but I was not expecting this. Your question to him was way off and on top of that asked in way that he could easily weasel out of it.

Go ahead and tweet Jaffe "why'd you make up a lie to cover your ass for fucking over TM and its fans" and see what kind of response you'll get. Actually, I'll tell you the answer. You'll get none. It's exceptionally rare he responds to anything accusatory on Twitter, and there's hardly a way to ask him without inferring guilt upon him. If you want to get into laundry list of fuck-ups that were discussed later in the thread, message him yourself. I tweeted him specifically regarding OP's accusations, and got a response.

Besides that, the bluntness of the message is very telling. Jaffe is an impassioned man and is more than willing to write multi-tweet posts discussing social issues and things that correlate with how he views the world. The fact that he didn't ignore the tweet and shrug it off shows its relevant to him, but at the same time the fact he may have just posted his shortest tweet of 2017 along with dodging the question speaks volumes. Hell, ironically if you apply his answer to the actual question, you could interpret as him not at all being able to set the record straight and having lied. Obviously it's more likely his response was whether he was intentionally slanderous, but it's funny Freudian slip nontheless.
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Reply #19 - 07/30/17 at 06:12:32
 
A lot of word usage is the cultural customary context.  Generally slander or libel is used in association with written or video reporting, and has a strong legal tone.

You can force it here, but it makes the conversation take on a much more formal legal tone than is clearly intended by us.

Finally, your question frames it as if he slandered the entire fan base, or that we feel he did, which is way over the top of what either him or we are saying. He even says "some," and we all know he says "some."

How can he slander the entire fan base with the word "some?" He can't, and if that's our position we're dumbasses. It's, of course, not our position which is part of the problem with your question. You make us look dumb.
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Reply #20 - 07/30/17 at 08:45:30
 
I get what Muddy was trying to say, it's all good lol. I don't think we could ask any questions of Jaffe that would get a proper response, or a fair one. Poor Mort though, I see his comment in the video.
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Reply #21 - 07/30/17 at 09:37:10
 
I still remember Jaffe getting pissed off by someone in TMA that didn't like the music he was using for TMPS3. Said the music was garbage or something. I think that was part of the reason why he doesn't like this site. Some of the feedbacks were too harsh.
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Reply #22 - 07/30/17 at 10:09:42
 
The word choice was fine. Yes, it carries a more formal tone so it doesn't come off as a personal attack on his character, which he wouldn't respond to. If I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt he would respond no matter what I said to him, then I would have phrased it differently, but considering he doesn't even respond to most of his fanfare, it was fortunate to even get a response out of him.

And sure, if you take the tweet entirely out of context then it would appear to be a broadly encompassing all TM fans. But the link is given and the tweet is left as an open-ended question so he would have to read further in order to respond properly. If I had mentioned just the hardcore fans, he wouldn't have responded, and I knew I would have to feed him clickbait in order for him to feel he had any stake in the matter.

For all intents and purposes, an attack on "some" of the most avid fans who have the greatest knowledge of the genre and wanted only to make TM the best game possible is an attack on the fanbase as a whole.
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Reply #23 - 07/30/17 at 13:04:34
 
Eh, it's alright Muddeh. I get what you were asking, but as it was already said Jaffe isn't one to give answers lol.

I find it ridiculous that he would make up some bullshit on a stream just for pity though.
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Reply #24 - 07/30/17 at 15:45:58
 
Muddeh wrote on 07/29/17 at 23:28:00:
The fact that he didn't ignore the tweet and shrug it off shows its relevant to him, but at the same time the fact he may have just posted his shortest tweet of 2017 along with dodging the question speaks volumes.


Damn I'll say.  Even Jaffe loves dodging. 

So WTF was his deal with 2012?! Wink
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Reply #25 - 07/30/17 at 21:08:02
 
Malefactor wrote on 07/30/17 at 15:45:58:
Damn I'll say.  Even Jaffe loves dodging. 

So WTF was his deal with 2012?! Wink


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Reply #26 - 07/30/17 at 22:11:20
 
Malefactor wrote on 07/30/17 at 15:45:58:
Damn I'll say.  Even Jaffe loves dodging. 

So WTF was his deal with 2012?! Wink


My guess is that the during the "call", the "guy who ran the site" told him that we did not want dodging and to get rid of it.

I'm looking forward to the next stream someone posts here where Jaffe talks about how big of assholes we are for calling him out on his bogus story.
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Reply #27 - 08/01/17 at 09:57:54
 
Well, Jaffe is now apologizing about what he said on the stream. Specifically about the "call" he supposedly received. He's basically clearing up that it was actually emails rather than a phone call.
Four tweets about it.
-Part 1: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890944773686607872
-Part 2: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890944975852118018
-Part 3: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890945111093239808
-Part 4: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890945316177850368
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Reply #28 - 08/01/17 at 14:55:03
 
Varia31 wrote on 08/01/17 at 09:57:54:
Well, Jaffe is now apologizing about what he said on the stream. Specifically about the "call" he supposedly received. He's basically clearing up that
it was actually emails
rather than a phone call.
Four tweets about it.
-Part 1: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890944773686607872
-Part 2: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890944975852118018
-Part 3: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890945111093239808
-Part 4: https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/890945316177850368


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Reply #29 - 08/01/17 at 16:19:12
 
Awesome, didn't think Jaffe would say anything else. Looks like TMA's yearly action gets to keep going!

His apology is pure bullshit. He PURPOSELY said it was a call and said in such a way for maximum impact. Made it sound like whoever he was talking to was a ruthless asshole who called him while he knew hes with his dying dad in the hospital or something. There is no way you can confuse a phone call with emails. Getting emails on a cell phone or being under a tough situation doesn't cause you to just make up shit. You would distinctly remember talking to someone that was causing emotional distress especially while you were already going through a tough time in your life.

We'll have to see what Mort has to say in regards to emailing if it was even him. As far as I'm concerned what whatever Mort says is what happened now as Jaffe lost all his credibility when he made up the "call".
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