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Did TM3/4 have any qualities that you liked? (Read 24316 times)
Infernal
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Re: Did TM3/4 have any qualities that you liked?
Reply #60 - 01/18/20 at 05:20:44
 
TM3 is cheap as hell, what do you mean?

All I have to do is pick either Axel or Outlaw and it's over.

(Come to think of it, Axel is basically the god of TM)
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Reply #61 - 01/18/20 at 13:38:22
 
I have to say the music, but I'm a fan of Rob Zombie and White Zombie. The rest of it was shit. TM4 went from bad to worse but they had a good song on the Amazon level.
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Re: Did TM3/4 have any qualities that you liked?
Reply #62 - 01/19/20 at 03:12:22
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/17/20 at 15:53:50:
Hey, every series, franchise, movie, book . . . whatever . . .

has THAT guy.

With Twisted Metal, that guy is you. Congratulations.

The guy that actually plays a game and judges it based on its functionality and playability instead of going by nostalgia alone?
How about next time, specify, instead of saying nonsense that could literally be said about anyone and means absolutely nothing.
If you think TM2 isn't shit, and I'm wrong, tell me, dispute one of my points. Show me the AI having limited freeze ammo; show me that my ps1 and tm2 disc are broken and your's actually runs at 30+fps and doesn't look like shit, show me the AI killing eachother as fast as they kill you in holland, show me that I've been dreaming and you can't do a 180 mid-air and shift all your momentum when you hit the ground. Show me that I can fire freeze missiles out my side and my ass like the AI.
Show me that the game doesn't suck, that'll be great, bc I wanna love this game, or rather, I want the game I grew up with to be lovable.

Infernal wrote on 01/18/20 at 05:20:44:
TM3 is cheap as hell, what do you mean?

All I have to do is pick either Axel or Outlaw and it's over.

(Come to think of it, Axel is basically the god of TM)

I'm not sure what you mean by "cheap", I'll have to give outlaw and axel a shot, I mainly play warthog or club kid, both of which are good imo, but I've given flower power and some of the others a try, and they don't seem too bad either.
I can't really say how tm3 is in a competitive atmosphere, as I haven't had the chance to play any good human players yet.

I do like the music in TM3, the rob zombie stuff is good but the Pitchshifter stuff is by far my favorite. I don't know why it seems to fit tm3's atmosphere so well but it does, for me anyway.
I always prefer original music, and not licensed stuff, but the licensed stuff in 3 isnt bad. Dunno about 4 tho, some of the ones I did hear were kinda "eh", so I usually watch batman TAS while i play 4, rather than listen to music.
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Re: Did TM3/4 have any qualities that you liked?
Reply #63 - 01/19/20 at 09:05:50
 
BrandoTG wrote on 01/19/20 at 03:12:22:
The guy that actually plays a game and judges it based on its functionality and playability instead of going by nostalgia alone?


We've all played it.

BrandoTG wrote on 01/19/20 at 03:12:22:
How about next time, specify, instead of saying nonsense


It wasn't nonsense. You clearly understood what I'm saying. Quit using hyperbole. Simply put, in the Twisted Metal universe you're analogous to a guy claiming Bach sucks. You're entitled to your opinion, but you ARE in the minority. I treated you as the minority, because you are.

Why get offended about the truth?

BrandoTG wrote on 01/19/20 at 03:12:22:
If you think TM2 isn't shit, and I'm wrong, tell me, dispute one of my points.



Why? Because if I do YOU will suddenly magically like it and think it's amazing?

Get over yourself. I've been here since 2001. I have pages and pages contained in here on why X Twisted Metal rocks and X Twisted Metal sucks.

I'm sorry I wasn't interested in debating you about TM2 . . .I'm just not. I've had this conversation a million times before about the strengths and weaknesses of each Twisted and your post didn't have enough to make me feel like it was worth engaging on anything beyond a superficial level.

Which I did. I pointed out, rightly so, that you are a small voice fighting back the tide.

That isn't to say that that can't be worthwhile. Maybe someday you'll persuade us all. Probably not, but it's possible.

Good luck.
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Re: Did TM3/4 have any qualities that you liked?
Reply #64 - 01/19/20 at 09:21:05
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/19/20 at 09:05:50:
B-B-But I agree with the majority s-so I'm right, right? I don't have to give reasons bc others agree with me!!

It's objectively a beyond shit game, and you have no argument. Your only "argument" is that others agree with you. It's not a matter of opinion, it's shit, take the nostalgia goggles off.
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Reply #65 - 01/19/20 at 09:22:29
 
BrandoTG wrote on 01/19/20 at 09:21:05:
It's objectively a beyond shit game, and you have no argument. Your only "argument" is that others agree with you. It's not a matter of opinion, it's shit, take the nostalgia goggles off.


Objectively speaking, you don't seem to be able to read.
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Reply #66 - 01/19/20 at 09:40:27
 
BrandoTG wrote on 01/19/20 at 03:12:22:
I'm not sure what you mean by "cheap", I'll have to give outlaw and axel a shot, I mainly play warthog or club kid, both of which are good imo, but I've given flower power and some of the others a try, and they don't seem too bad either.
I can't really say how tm3 is in a competitive atmosphere, as I haven't had the chance to play any good human players yet.


It would be a horrific experience. In terms of AA, you have only freeze, jump, rear attack, and invisibility...and this is supposed to be the sequel, not going backwards. Once you get flipped, it's practically over. Let's put it this way. I've played with a group of pals and
I never lost
unless someone picked Minion.
If there's one thing TM4 got right, it's that they made your car instantly flip when it was on its topside. That and more AA, since I had already mentioned it.
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Re: Did TM3/4 have any qualities that you liked?
Reply #67 - 01/19/20 at 13:09:10
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/19/20 at 09:22:29:
Objectively speaking, you don't seem to be able to read.

The projecting is unreal, lol. You'll get the hang of cognitive thought eventually, just keep trying.

Infernal wrote on 01/19/20 at 09:40:27:
It would be a horrific experience. In terms of AA, you have only freeze, jump, rear attack, and invisibility...and this is supposed to be the sequel, not going backwards. Once you get flipped, it's practically over. Let's put it this way. I've played with a group of pals and
I never lost
unless someone picked Minion.
If there's one thing TM4 got right, it's that they made your car instantly flip when it was on its topside. That and more AA, since I had already mentioned it.

I do kind of feel like the shield was only implemented bc of the broken AI in TM2, so I don't mind it being gone too much, especially considering the homing on the missiles seems weak at times, iirc depending on the angle, so I could always dodge them.
I suppose so long as its even, it wouldn't be terrible to have faster rounds, necessarily. Think of something like Bushido Blade. I recall playing TM2 and both players having to wait for eachother's long ass shields to wear off before attacking again, so maybe thats still messing with me. I wonder if axel/outlaw's special would come in handy if you got knocked over, that might put them a league above the rest on its own. I think sweet tooth is prone to being knocked over though. I see, now, that it might become a problem with the vehicle balancing if flipping was so fatal. I have to admit flipping people and AI is loads of fun though. I've even seen the AI turbo into me and knock me over before running for the health once. It was likely on accident but with all of the cool stuff I see the AI in 3&4 do, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they coded that in.
All this talk of TM3 makes me want to play it some more. I'll see if I can get that ps1 emu with netplay running so I can play with the guys, although in my experience netplay often leads to unsynced games, and that was back when I had good internet, I can't imagine it working now. I'll definitely have to give it a shot with my gf sometime.

I do like the extra AA in TM4, especially hyperspace, since it stops the AI from being too easy on tracks with pits, and stops you from dying after missing a jump or falling victim to a clever orbital shot.
I think the reverse massive attack and reverse freeze are nice too, pairs especially nice with the rear-view, iirc.

On another note, I love that in TM3 I have the freedom to choose whether I want to fight Primeval legitimately or pull/knock him out of the blimp. I wish sweet tooth in tm4 gave me that freedom lol
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Reply #68 - 01/19/20 at 13:23:11
 
BrandoTG wrote on 01/19/20 at 13:09:10:
The projecting is unreal, lol. You'll get the hang of cognitive thought eventually, just keep trying.



What's unreal is how boring you are.
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Reply #69 - 01/19/20 at 14:10:21
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/19/20 at 13:23:11:
What's unreal is how boring you are.

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Reply #70 - 01/19/20 at 14:20:37
 
OMG . . . and responding with Jaffe's face . . . Shocked Shocked Shocked

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Reply #71 - 01/19/20 at 14:24:19
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/19/20 at 09:05:50:
Get over yourself. I've been here since 2001. I have pages and pages contained in here on why X Twisted Metal rocks and X Twisted Metal sucks.

HOL UP I MISSED THIS SOMEHOW

fucking 40 posts, and you tell me to get over myself i n  t h e  s a m e  s e n t e n c e?
The projecting was unreal before I even realized it.
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Reply #72 - 01/19/20 at 14:32:08
 
You're back to you're "projecting" claim?

That was weak material to start with. You're not going to get much of it now.

Your posts themselves are so weird . . . you start out as far as I can tell kind of trashing TM3 and TM4 and praising the standard games like most of us . . . then this vitriol seems to creep in for Incog . . . slowly you start praising TM3 and TM4 and bashing the accepted canon until now you all out burn TM2 at the stake . . .

Was this your REAL character arc? Or were you just a poser all along?
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Reply #73 - 01/19/20 at 14:37:30
 
-Kilrahi- wrote on 01/19/20 at 14:32:08:
You're back to you're "projecting" claim?

That was weak material to start with. You're not going to get much of it now.

Your posts themselves are so weird . . . you start out as far as I can tell kind of trashing TM3 and TM4 and praising the standard games like most of us . . . then this vitriol seems to creep in for Incog . . . slowly you start praising TM3 and TM4 and bashing the accepted canon until now you all out burn TM2 at the stake . . .

Was this your REAL character arc? Or were you just a poser all along?

Right, except you still did it, whether it was weak or not. Try again.

hol up check this, you said about your posts and I found this beauty.
"Fans like myself, care far more about how it plays."
Yet you play TM2? Are you actually disabled in some way?

Ah yes, I went from blindly shitting on a game and praising one I grew up with, and now I actually think about how a game plays, and try to judge it based on its actual worth instead of blindly shrugging off dumb mechanics and sucking a game's dick.
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Reply #74 - 01/19/20 at 14:42:51
 
This is like communicating with one of those online artificial intelligences.

The words keep coming, yet it's clear you don't actual respond to what was given to you.

Nothing you have said about my responses has come even close to what was typed. Plus you're trashing me for loving a game that basically EVERYONE on here loves. So you're holding your middle finger up to the whole room.

They're just too bored to care. Even more bored than I am.
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