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Reply #165 - 12/11/16 at 14:15:06
 
Synthr is just poking the bear. He obviously knows I'm trolling. I don't want to go to Canada. Have you seen the temperatures??

I'm not arguing. I'm just accepting that everything in the world now needs a safe space, and must be mindful of the hurt we might inflict when we might say some bad things.

And 4 Years of Trump is nothing like having maybe 4 Years of Deez Nutz. I mean.....come on. He's totally qualified just like the rest of us.

The electoral college isn't fucked either. People have paid good money........I mean placed good laws into effect to make sure the popular vote doesn't elect a President.

Because.......ya know.....popularity has nothing to do with it. But it's great either way!

I'm so happy I live in aMErica where I can freely express MY opinions and tell others they are hateful with no recourse.

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Reply #166 - 12/11/16 at 19:20:39
 
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I am one of the few that is in favor of the electoral college. I just think it needs to be reformed. The electoral votes per state should be apportioned by the percentage of popular vote earned in that state. The electoral votes would be divvied up by a candidates percentage in that state instead of a "winner take all".

I'm 1000% against abolishing the electoral college. It would allow more populated states like New York and California to ultimately decide the election. It would silence the voices of less populated states such as Alaska, New Hampshire and Wyoming. The system right now can make it swing either way but no electoral college would ultimately tip the odds in favor of the Democrats.

I'm just against any idea of a straight-up democracy. We have many intelligent people in this country that don't vote and a shit-ton of morons (e.g. V-Wing, Skywalker) that do vote. Could you imagine if there was a national referendum called after the Orlando shootings or a referendum called because there's "potential" of a terrorist attack on our soil?

My Facebook was jampacked with assholes saying we should outright ban gun ownership after the Orlando shooting but the government has every right to own nukes that could wipe out all life on Earth. On the other side, we have V-Wing types that think the 4th amendment is just a "guideline" but not a rule...if you're not doing anything wrong....why have a problem with cops kicking in your door without a warrant?  Because no one has ever had shit planted on them or been accidentally killed in a no-knock raid.

I don't want a soccer mom in New Jersey who knows more about Keeping Up with the Kardashians than the Constitution telling me what kind of firepower I can own. I also don't want some bandwagon patriot like V-Wing to tell me I have no right to privacy and that I should let someone kick in my door without a warrant because I "might" be a criminal. Fuck that.

Sorry for ranting, folks. Going to down a bottle of Sam Adam's cherry wheat.
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Reply #167 - 12/11/16 at 19:56:15
 
Do you think then, Dim Shades, that there ought to be a populace cap  towards votes? Would that be an idea of a reform? Every time I hear someone say something needs to be reformed, I'm inclined to hear just how exactly they'd reform it. I'm interested in hearing.
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Reply #168 - 12/11/16 at 20:33:12
 
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Anyway with that garble out of the way, what I don't agree with in our current system is the fact that our representatives, who are supposed to represent what we want and vote for can say other wise. Which can and has happened multiple times. I'm not sure how you could do a reform and make it fair for all, but isn't that part of the issue anyway? Trying to give everyone a trophy?

Instead of winning states how about we count all the individual votes of every single person on machines that don't try and change your vote to Clinton.
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Reply #169 - 12/11/16 at 20:34:53
 
I believe Maine and Nebraska are on the right track in terms of doling out electoral votes. They use the congressional district method - the popular vote winner statewide gets an 'x' amount of the electoral votes then the remaining electoral votes are collected by the winner of the popular vote in each Congressional district in that particular state.

California almost always gives all of it's electoral votes to a Democrat. In a 'congressional district' system, more republican/libertarian strongholds such as the Orange County area and areas such as Needles, Barstow...would have their voice heard instead of the popular vote winner statewide getting to claim every electoral vote despite voters from certain Congressional districts not voting in their favor.

It would at least be (in my opinion) a step in the right direction. It could even trickle down to help third party candidates if they campaigned like hell in philosophically friendly districts.

I just can't in good conscience support a direct vote of the President. There are tons of intelligent people who do not vote for parties but look at the issues. Then we have people who vote for parties even if the person running doesn't reflect their viewpoints...straight-ticket voters.

That and like I said before - I'd hate the can of worms to be opened and we become a direct democracy on all issues. Rights are not inalienable in a democracy.

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Right on about shitty representatives. I'm all for term limits for Congressmen. Some of those dickheads make a lifelong career out of it, vote themselves raises every year and we still re-elect them. I'm fine with a limit of two or three terms for Congressmen. Try to work your ass off to fulfill your promises you made (such as obeying the Constitution) and then retire back to private life. They should also not get any perks above the average citizen - no exorbitantly ridiculous retirement to leave with, no tax funded meals, no special protection....root out the corruption and all the perks. They should be public servants - not pampered pricks.








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Reply #170 - 12/12/16 at 04:13:30
 
Well, I was going to break down why the Electoral College is actually a good thing that shouldn't be abolished tonight but Dim has already done that for me, saving me precious time tonight so I can go play some games instead. His ideas for reform seem the most reasonable also.

Here are a couple links that lay it out in better detail:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442783/electoral-college-california-rules-...

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/matthew-hrozencik/levin-electoral-college-absolutely...

Now below is the interview I've been hoping would happen for a couple months now; Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan's show. This video is a must watch, at least the first hour or so. This is the best video I've posted in this entire thread.

Peterson lays out, in a way more intelligent way than I ever could, why SJWs and modern leftist thought and behavior is so destructive and dangerous and why we must fight it.

I would love to see ANYONE try and argue with ANY of his logic.






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Reply #171 - 12/13/16 at 04:56:40
 
Here are the latest victims to lose their jobs because of triggered SJWs and liberal faggots. Is anyone else seeing my point yet?

http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/christie-blatchford-b-c-teacher-fired-...

http://www.therebel.media/gavin_mcinnes_december_08

Got my new shirt in the mail today. I'm really hoping some liberal tries to fight me when I wear this out.


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Reply #172 - 12/14/16 at 13:51:09
 
For anyone who wants to argue gun control.

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Reply #173 - 12/15/16 at 03:48:38
 
3D printed guns are the future.


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Reply #174 - 12/15/16 at 06:30:42
 
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Reply #175 - 12/23/16 at 02:50:16
 
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Reply #178 - 01/31/17 at 15:13:42
 
A message from the Dutch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELD2AwFN9Nc

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Reply #179 - 02/01/17 at 12:34:19
 
Come on now dude.

You know that no one here in aMErica has a sense of humor for that anymore. Alot of people won't get it.

It might be "offensive"
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