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Reply #15 - 11/10/16 at 23:24:38
 
"The Left" and "Liberals" are comprised of multitudes of people who subscribe to all manner of different beliefs and go about expressing them all manner of different ways. Whether they're protesting, or on TV, or on gaming channels makes no difference. There are plenty of people on the right that fit the profile you're talking about and I'm not going to hold you to what they say. It is absolutely possible to not make broad generalizations, and to continue to do so is a cop out. You're arguing against something I'm not arguing for. That is the definition of a strawman. As a matter of fact, saying that liberals are arguing against strawmen is itself a strawman. The reason I'm hung up on this is that I think it's the only way to have this debate without getting heated.

My argument was more that police departments themselves should be actively recognizing the problem and working to improve their training. Or really, there should be an independent investigation into their training. I have heard great things about police body cameras though.

My "starting point" will be those last questions - what do you think he will do, and how do you discern when he's saying what he actually believes?
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Reply #16 - 11/10/16 at 23:49:32
 
Apologies for butting in since this isn't my debate.

Trump will probably handle police violence the same as Obama did. Give a few speeches on how it's bad. Then do nothing because a lot of it is handled on a state level. A very small portion of the population vote on a state or county level. So those in office will probably continue to take donations from corporate prisons and continue the cycle of over policing minorities. Since they won't be voted out.

All a president can do about that is either ignore it or give speeches on how it's bad. Reforming all of the police in the country on a federal level using executive power sounds extremely hard. It'd have to be his sole focus. Hence why Obama didn't solve the problem within his 8 year term.

Though if you want my opinion on it. Obama and Hilary received money from corporate ran prisons. So it'd be against their financial interests for less people to go there. A move to reduce the amount of arrests would mean less money in their pockets.

Hence why Obama allowed the FBI to raid weed shops and has made it extremely difficult to sell weed even in states where it is legal. It goes against his financial interests to keep people out of prison.

As far as Trump goes. I don't think he has donations from the prison industrial complex. But it wouldn't surprise me. Still even if he didn't. That is more of a problem for the states to solve.

The president could order more investigations from the FBI on individual cases. But if that were simple to do. I imagine Obama would have done it. Unless even the Democrats don't care about that issue if they have enough donations in their pockets.

If you don't vote on a state and county level none of that will change. Presidents both Democratic and Republican will just give speeches on that issue.
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Reply #17 - 11/11/16 at 00:44:27
 
Sorry guys I only got to read up to reply #10 so far so I'll give you my two cents for what its worth.

XIZOR, you said that the media spoke little of the candidates policies, and your right, through out the entire campaign they spoke only 30 min of the candidates policies through the entire fucking campaign

All the rest was junk, fucking deliberate disctractions, to keep the population distracted from the real issues,
issues the corporate media does not want you to focus on.

You can call it Liberal or Conservative media, BUT ITS ALL COPRORATE MEDIA!!!!!!!

Sure I don't like what happed but the important thing I realized this last 16 months was how bad the media is, its own and controlled by corporations.

I don't want anyone telling me what I can and cannot hear.

So this is what I recommend especially for you XIZOR, stop watching the media, it will drive you nuts, and get you depressed, the only media I recommend (and its not perfect) is PBS public television.

CNN, MSNBC, FOX they are the 'junk food' of information, too much of it will drive you nuts.
I'm going to do this and I recommend you try it your self XIZOR for awhile.

I once worked for a major company and I walked by their corporate meeting room, they were having a meeting and the door was opened, they were complaining about a news center saying something they did not like, I don't know what it was the media said but I heard some punk kid say " If they don't stop talking about it we'll just pull our advertising".
That told me that the main reason they advertise their products are not to promote there products, but to CONTROL THE MEDIA. Well that's my belief.

Sanders exposed the establishment in the Democratic Party and that was a good thing, something that had to be done, however Sanders said something that I think you and many others XIZOR may have missed, we have to take over the party and fix it, I just don't think that running away is the answer.

Sanders also said and he emphasized this that change does not happen overnight, Obama has said this too.
We all saw the establishment in the Democratic Party and believe me I was pissed off at it too, but when you realize that you have a broken arm you have wait for it too heal and deal with the pain so what did you do XIZOR, you and many others, you got angry and impatient and cut the arm off, yes you did solve the problem, no more broken arm but we have no arm left.

Sanders did influence Clinton, he was changing her policies mainly cause he got 44% of the Democratic vote but lets just face the facts four years of Trump is going to be a fucking disaster and a nightmare for this country, I respect your decision XIZOR but I just think maybe you let your anger and impatience with the negative side of the left cloud your better judgement but that's just my opinion.

I do agree that there are radicals on both sides but I don't let them get to me or tell my what to do, say or believe, I believe in free speech from both sides, good debates on issues, I am a Liberal who believes in this as well as many conservatives.

As for saying that Hillary is a terrible person is so wrong and inaccurate, she had done so many great things for so many people I just don't know where you get that XIZOR, (fox?...maby?).

You also mentioned the angry protests about Trump, and I agree with you. They need to accept the results and learn from them. The Democratic Party needs a lot of soul searching and some young blood, and new leadership to have a future and people like you XIZOR need to get involved.

Toasty if your girl friend does not respect your decision she does not respect you.

Everyone has the right to vote for anyone for any reason, its a personal decision and right and I will always respect a persons vote regardless.

When people called on stores to boycott Duck Dynasty products I was against the boycott, the man has a right to express his opinion no matter how stupid it is.






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Reply #18 - 11/11/16 at 01:39:08
 
"The Left" and "Liberals" are comprised of multitudes of people who subscribe to all manner of different beliefs and go about expressing them all manner of different ways."

You can say that, but that's not what myself or anyone else is seeing out there in the world today. I KNOW this is true because I was a liberal and I watched as the people around me and the general message of being good to each other and fighting for civil and individual rights became way to extreme and negative towards others. Its a hive mind mentality now in that group that over time just eroded into having nothing to say at all and just devolved into calling everyone racists, bigots, homophobes, xenophobes, sexists, misogynists, religious discriminators, and evil.

As far as I can tell, the only people being reasonable are Libertarians, which is what I would probably consider myself, and they have some traction within the Left, but are generally seen as outsiders because they challenge some traditional Left and Liberal views.

The problem is no one on the Left holds their side accountable for anything and the radicals have been left do as they please and speak for everyone, ultimately giving that entire side a bad name and causing people like myself to bail. And if someone tries to speak out of turn they get called all those names as well because the Left will even cannibalize their own if they step out of line. 

Yes, there are always going to be outliers in any group and on any side, but I can tell you the Right is way more diverse and divided than you think. Donald Trump just shattered the Republican party and there are many who did not support him or vote for him on this side at all, and he still won! What does that tell you? This should be a plus for those of you on the Left because guess what, you kinda got a more liberal minded Republican president. You don't know it yet, but I'm calling it now.

Just a small example from today:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/21/donald-trump-says-transge...

This is pretty much my view of things. Let people use whatever bathroom they want. It was never a problem before, but the Left needed a new victim to look out for so they could seem morally righteous, so they crafted a false narrative.


"My argument was more that police departments themselves should be actively recognizing the problem and working to improve their training. Or really, there should be an independent investigation into their training. I have heard great things about police body cameras though."

I don't think anyone disagrees with any of that. I certainly don't. Honestly though, I don't have any family or close friends that serve in the police department so I have no knowledge or first hand experience of how they hire people, the training they go through, or how to make it better. I don't have any nuanced solutions to this problem, but I do know that the media distributing false information and creating unrealistic narratives of the racial problems in this country and then blowing it all out of proportion did more to harm black people, white people, and police officers than it did towards helping them.

Perfect example of what I'm talking about:



However, black people need to take responsibility for their own part in this. If black lives matter then they need to start looking at their own. Here is a list of statistics that show why, maybe, black people get get a little more attention by police:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7441/7-statistics-you-need-know-about-black-black-...

Huh, so a race of people who's shitty culture that glorifies being criminals and gangsters makes up most of the crime in the US despite being a minority group gets racially profiled and singled out by cops? Makes sense to me. When I'm walking down a dark street at night and I see three black guys coming my way, forgive me if I'm a bit nervous. That isn't my fault, that's black peoples fault for continuing to dress, act, and behave in a manor that perpetuates these stereotypes.

Of the handful of cases of black people getting shot by cops this year, at least among the high profile ones on television, at least half or more were justified shootings--still looking for the exact statistics--but people just blew it out of proportion. Sure, you could say that even one life is too many but when you don't comply with the police officers requests then sadly, you take your chances at that point. But no one wanted to wait for facts and instead react like fucking lunatics.


"My "starting point" will be those last questions - what do you think he will do, and how do you discern when he's saying what he actually believes?"

Well I think he's going to take a look at healthcare, government spending, taxes, and immigration. All things I care about.

Sure he said some wild things in the beginning, again to whip up support from the people (some of them maybe a bit racist and some that aren't) that are actually concerned about who and how many people we just let keep rolling in to our country. There is nothing wrong with taking another look at who we let in here. If an illegal mexican comes over here and falls off a ladder and goes to the hospital guess what? He gets free health care because its both cruel and illegal (in some states or cases) not to treat him but he doesn't actually have to pay for any of it because hes not an actual citizen with a social security number that we can go track down for payment later. So guess what, you foot that bill now. But that's just one small example.

Islamic terrorists are just happily strolling in to any and every country all over the world now killing people. No reason why we shouldn't be more cautions because the US is overdue for another major attack and I believe ISIS or someone else will attempt another attack on US soil in the next five years. Trump isn't going to start shipping muslims back over seas, he's just saying that to sound strong and in control, when in reality all I hear is "maybe we should pay closer attention".

I have more to say but I've been debating liberals for days at this point and I can't even make great points. If you've got some specific things Trump as said that you would like to me to consider and give you my take on it I will. I'm just sort of distracted and just pulling random things off the top of my head right now.
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Reply #19 - 11/11/16 at 03:19:26
 
Sorry I haven't replied to anyone else in this thread yet as Hellbent was always replying when I was so by the time I finished mine I couldn't reply to his reply because I hadn't seen it yet. I've just had this page open on a tab in my browser and writing things here and there throughout the day when I had time, mostly focusing on Nightshades points for starters.

Honestly though I agree with most of what Hellbent is saying so I don't really feel the need to respond. I feel like we are mostly on the same page about some of the circumstances surrounding why Hillary lost and Trump won and why we voted for him.


"You can call it Liberal or Conservative media, BUT ITS ALL COPRORATE MEDIA!!!!!!!"

Yes, its all corporate controlled media, but my point is that 98 percent of ALL media, not just the news, is pushing liberal agendas now. I don't watch the news, I don't even have cable, but this shit always trickles down into my daily life in some way. You can just completely ignore Fox News, that's easy and most people have been doing it for years, but when you can't escape the annoying liberal bullshit it becomes unbearable, especially when most of it is in turn being influenced by these radical SJWs and butthurt millennials on social media who interact with some dumb celebrity or public figure on twitter who then picks up whatever their outrage of the week is because it seems like a reasonable thing to do, fight for some poor victim and all, and then now you have everyone saying that this is the voice of our nation when it isn't.

Same thing with the retarded Colin Kaepernick shit in football, and oh look how brave he is sitting down during the national anthem, isn't he just such a hero, just look at him fighting for black America hooray! Even though he makes millions and had a free ride his whole life after being adopted by white parents and has probably never suffered anything a normal black person has a day of his life.

And this kind of shit is on ESPN, which is apparently just a fucking liberal sports network now because god forbid people get to just watch sports without having to hear about someone's political opinions.

Then today, JUST today as a perfect example, I log in to my favorite gaming site Kotaku and what do I see? This shit!

http://kotaku.com/a-note-about-the-election-1788828230

Its like for fucks sake can't I just go on a website about video games without having some liberal whiny bullshit shoved down my throat. And this isn't just Kotaku, its every single fucking gaming site on the internet, all filled to the brim with holier-than-thou fucking progressive liberal SJWs talking about how women aren't represented well enough in this game, or look everyone this game has a gay character because hooray look how progressive games are now! Give it a fucking rest, please for the love of God!

This is why I must fight, because liberal faggots cannot be allowed to control everything. It would be different if they were the liberals I grew up with that were generally just cool and laid back and shut the fuck up unless there was actually some huge injustice being done to someone or a group of people but now everyone is a professional victim of something and if they aren't a victim they are a professional coddler of people's feelings.
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Reply #20 - 11/11/16 at 06:15:35
 
Tell you what, I'll argue on behalf of your strawman if you argue on behalf of the people doing this kind of stuff: https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

Don't tell me it's not the same, because it is. I'm showing you something the "hivemind" of "your side" is doing and expecting you to defend it.
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Reply #21 - 11/11/16 at 07:14:31
 
Seriously? No one would defend that kind of behavior.

I will say this though, that this does not represent the majority of the Right, but like always, the Left will just pretend it does because it fits their narrative that all Republicans and people who voted for Trump are racist and so the false narrative continues and the country falls further into chaos.

Honestly though, and I know this will sound harsh and wrong, but I feel it is the truth of the matter in my heart and as I see it, that when you push the coastal elite liberal agenda on the whole of the nation for this long and ask people to just lay down and accept all these brand new sexual, moral, and radically religious ideals of what America should be on them for this long, this is what you get. The Left are the ones that started protesting with some mild violence, and started burning flags yesterday and again, you think people are just going to stand for that? In these crazy peoples eyes, this was once again, people trying to take away their America, and I'm sorry that for some people their view of America is not what it should be, but ignoring these people is what got us here so you can't blame them for acting out, even if some of these actions are completely unacceptable. 

I'm a more rational person myself, but I get it that after a year of allowing black people to be openly racist with the black lives matter bullshit, (and don't pretend for one second that I can't go and find dozens of youtube videos of white people being beaten in the streets during those riots) which the Left totally allowed to happen, that this is the push back you get. White people had to sit there and take it, being made to feel bad because a couple black people got shot. Again, I don't condone this behavior, but this is what happens when you tell everyone they are racist, and guess what, some of them just say fuck it, I guess I'm a racist and I'm tired of having your bullshit shoved down my throat and they rebel.

For comparisons sake, please show me real Republicans, government officials, public figures, media trend setters, hollywood elite, youtube personalities or celebrities, gaming outlets, sports and entertainment personalities and organizations ON THE RIGHT that support and approve of this behavior and I will gladly help you or anyone else eradicate them.

But I, myself, CAN show you the faces, organizations, publications, that pushed their bullshit down people's throats for years that actually CAUSED this to happen because up until now, if there were racists people in this country, they kept to their fucking selves. Like Hellbent said earlier, you poked the hornets nest and didn't expect the bees?

Again, I can show you how liberals tried to gain moral superiority over the country, claiming they knew what's best for America and how this is the backlash you asked for, but can you show me how Republicans and people on the right who are the major players and actually have a voice of reason wanted this? I don't think you can.
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Reply #22 - 11/11/16 at 07:24:32
 
Follow the money.

There was no revolt against Republican media during Gamergate because the right wasn't infecting gaming journalism to push a political narrative.

Gamejourno Pro's was set up specifically to coordinate multiple publications. Ultimately using their coordinated efforts to take advantage of your average gamer. Trying to gain control of the media average gamers made popular. Intentionally alienating those who don't fall in line with the political agenda. To be rid of them.

The reasoning for it was personal politics and money. They were losing money to YouTube and player reviews. Only 3% of people read reviews to decide if they want a game or not. They had to appeal to a new base. Politics was an easy out. Taking money for review scores kept reviews profitable. Crony behavior with developers was also a way to boost their pay.

But ultimately the political shit got rammed into gaming publications because it generates clicks. Clicks that are hard to get these days by doing traditional gaming news. They aren't interested in giving gamers gaming news. All it takes is one person to do that. Because single people are doing that on sites like YouTube. It's not profitable enough anymore for a company to do it.

They have to appeal to a political base and hardline it for two reasons. To generate traffic and to gain control of the entertainment medium. They didn't reach the second point fully in gaming because they were found out. But you can still find games where their influence shows. Whether it's cronyism or coincidence I can't say for every case. But look up the development for Sunset, Depression Quest, or Revolution 60 if you want a peek into how that went.

That is my evidence that the bias in media to authoritarian left is the most prevalent. The Right Wing hasn't infected any other media nearly as hard to push their political agenda. Unless you count Country Music but that kinda goes with the genre.

Keep in mind I think it's this way because that is where the money is. Obama during his first term was amazingly popular. Less so during his second term but still leagues ahead of what Bush Jr was at in his approval ratings.

Of course there is Fox News. But you don't see Republican centric news trying to infect Movies or Gaming. They stay within their sphere of influence. In a way it's more honest. Which is saying a lot considering how Fox News just like CNN and MSNBC is simply a propaganda network.

But I think they've played too hard to the left to try and squeeze out as many clicks and views as possible. It's turned people off the leftist ideology. At least the way they package it. It's too authoritarian.



How this relates to Mainstream Media is simple. Just like only 3% of people go to gaming magazines for reviews. People don't look for news much anymore.

Associated Press does all the real reporting. Then Fox, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and RT simply take that information and apply their spin to it. It costs less to do and people prefer to turn onto little talk shows where people "debate" the topics. Hardly any of the MSM outlets simply report the facts. There is always a spin.

There are 3 reasons for that. It's inexpensive thanks to Associated Press doing all the actual reporting for them. It attracts viewers by being highly partisan. But most importantly taking a hardline left or right stance gives you access to big political powers.

You want to talk to Clinton on TV? You play ball. Want to chat with Ted Cruz? Here's a list of demands. Refuse? Well you lost your interview and your easy money.

All this bias is directly related to money. If it were profitable to just report the facts and let the viewer make up their mind. It would be the popular way of providing news. It's just not the case anymore.

The hardline left got greedy. Obama's victories gave them a lot of power in the eyes of the public. Because hell Obama had good ideas and was charismatic especially compared to his republican counterparts.

But they got greedy infecting other media. They pushed their hand too far. That is how Gawker died and that is how Trump is the President Elect.

I admit a lot of this based on my own assumptions. Based on history and what facts I know. But I can tell you for certain if you see bias in media. There is a huge chance it's because of money.

If it weren't profitable to appeal to a large mass of people with partisan reporting. It wouldn't happen. There would be no Fox News or CNN. Associated Press would be all anyone looked at.






As far as the terrible shit Hilary has done. How about rigging the DNC to stab a candidate in her party who was more popular in the back? Selling out Americans to please huge banks the other people paying her? Adopting popular viewpoints like gay marriage only when they became popular viewpoints? Joking about assassinating a man for exposing her corruption?

Isn't it a bit suspicious so many people who worked for her die from gunshots? People inconvenient to her but not in the spotlight manage to mysteriously die. Perhaps she's really lucky. But holy shit I'd be terrified to speak out against her if I worked for her. I wouldn't want to commit suicide by shooting myself in the back 37 times.

Then you have the fact she's awful with security. She can't even keep her own corrupt plans secret. When it's discovered she broke the law she has an intern smash her phones to bits with a hammer and deletes the fuck out of the evidence. She is not afraid to commit a crime.

The list goes on and gets much darker depending on which sources you believe. I can only hope the darker shit is fictitious. If she actually gave authorization for a drone strike via text message. That is pretty evil. At least pick up the phone and talk into it if you're going to order a death.
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Reply #23 - 11/11/16 at 07:27:44
 
I was being facetious, trying to demonstrate how ridiculous it is to debate by lumping everybody on one side together and complaining about all of their worst qualities as if they apply to all of them. I could have just as easily posted David Duke, or any number of others, but I make a point of actively avoiding reading the rhetoric of those kinds of hateful people, and I'm not going to go on a research mission to prove that they exist.

At any rate, if this is the method of debate you're going to continue to use, I'm going to go ahead and respectfully bow out. You're upset, I get it, but whether it's deliberate or not, you are absolutely using a strawman here and I'm not going to engage with that.
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Reply #24 - 11/11/16 at 07:55:24
 
Oh, so you are using the old Hellbent playbook to post now, I get it.

This is what the Left does so thank you for proving my point; they come and dip their toes in the water, find out its too hot, and then just bow out proclaiming the higher moral ground because they can't possibly swim in a pool that might have some piss in it. They aren't human and base enough to rough and tumble with us lesser beings on the right.

What you don't understand is that I am on one front trying to expose how liberally biased the world and media is around all of you, while on the other hand trying to have a good old fashioned debate. Clearly I'm failing at the one you want but you haven't really replied with much effort for your cause. I've spent a lot of time today going over your questions and concerns but you haven't reciprocated.

To be honest I haven't really had an outlet to express all these fresh new ideas, beliefs, thoughts, and opinions to a receptive audience lately so I'm just kind of scattershotting a lot things at the moment. But to be fair, a lot of these concerns weren't being recognized by most people until the liberal wall came crumbling down when Trump won and then suddenly the kings of the Left said, wait, what are the peasants doing down there?

I can keep going posting links and videos and expressing what myself, the ration thinking Right, Libertarians, and possibly the silenced people in middle American feel, and better yet what I feel is the NEW modern Rights point of view...or you can all just ignore it and enjoy Trump for four more years the next time this happens, or maybe even someone worse.

I'm trying to expose the false narratives of the media. I have a lot more to go through so even if no one else posts or replies to this thread, just know that I will continue to contribute so that at the very least people can see or listen to different opinions whether you like or agree with them.
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Reply #25 - 11/11/16 at 08:26:55
 
Give me a break. I'm trying to be respectful, I'm trying to engage you about policies, but you're just ranting and raving. I don't know if you're trying to goad me, or if you're just really upset, but bragging about the "rational right" and shitting on the "[insert insult] left" is only making me less inclined to take you seriously, because it's representative of someone without an open mind. I'm not going to respond to insults. Post a reasoned argument about Donald Trump's policies and we'll talk.

If you don't like the "public figures, media trend setters, hollywood elite, youtube personalities or celebrities, gaming outlets, sports and entertainment personalities" don't watch them/listen to them/read them. Who is in the oval office has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. You're voting for the president, and the president has no control of that stuff. If you're offended by the rhetoric of goverment officials, that's a different animal, but the rest of that is just fluff.

The part of your argument I want to engage with is always the tiny bit at the end. You said you think he's going to "take a look" at these issues. What does that mean? What specifically do you think he is going to do?

I will admit I am being a little unfair because you did bring up some stuff that I just disagreed with and didn't say so. Like the stuff about the illegal immigrant falling off the ladder - yeah, I think he should get health care. I think any person injured within the United States is entitled to health care, and I think it should be paid for through taxes. Same thing with the islamic terrorists - all religions create fanaticism and there have been plenty of domestic Christian terrorism. I think law enforcement/FBI/CIA should be following threats of all kinds, but I don't think racial profiling is productive. Same with black people - I don't believe they have a "shitty culture glorifying crime", nor do I think that the way they dress and act is perpetuating stereotypes. I'm not going to dispute that black people commit crimes, but it's not because they're black. It's probably because a disproportionate amount of them are poor. Correlation does not equal causation, but because people assume it does, police are more likely to go after them. And black people are more likely to run from police because they're more likely to be unfairly treated by the police. And because black people are more likely to run from police, police are more aggressive. Etc. And honestly, this line:

"[...] this is what happens when you tell everyone they are racist, and guess what, some of them just say fuck it, I guess I'm a racist and I'm tired of having your bullshit shoved down my throat and they rebel. "

just makes me feel gross.

You disagree with this stuff obviously, so I guess I didn't see the point of getting into it, but I realize that's kind of shitty to not let you in on my thought process, so I apologize for that.
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Reply #26 - 11/11/16 at 09:24:52
 
NightShade wrote on 11/11/16 at 08:26:55:
If you don't like the "public figures, media trend setters, hollywood elite, youtube personalities or celebrities, gaming outlets, sports and entertainment personalities" don't watch them/listen to them/read them. Who is in the oval office has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. You're voting for the president, and the president has no control of that stuff. If you're offended by the rhetoric of goverment officials, that's a different animal, but the rest of that is just fluff..


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Re: Trump wins
Reply #27 - 11/11/16 at 12:59:53
 
They all lie, how do you find out what is a lie and what is true?

That statement right there is where everyone needs to stop in their tracks, and change all this shit.

When I was a kid, I got smacked in the mouth and told not to lie, and that's a bad thing. You need to always tell the truth! So in 1980 when I'm listening to the adults about our election and how all politicians lie, I ask as a naive child that's 8 years old why can they and not me? I get the "It's complicated. When your older, you'll understand" So when I lied again being the smart ass I am and said I was playing politician, I still got smacked! 

I'M FUCKING OLDER AND I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!

I personally don't give a fuck what side your on, who you voted for, or WTF ever with your own private life and the way you handle it. What pisses me off is what we are discussing at this site. Who the fuck was the better lair?!? And we have hundreds of these kind of people in positions of power on either side??

Divide and conquer.

I go for a Department Of Transportation physical to keep my job, to a medical company that provides service to the company I work for. The doctor asks me about my sleep treatment that I have been battling with over the last 6 months with the help of a specialist. When my "explanation" to him in his mind was actually "Being a little bitch." I almost punched him in the mouth. When I told him that was out of line he immediately said. "You must be voting for Trump."

WITAF is that shit? No he didn't get fired. Yes I contacted his corporate, and my corporate offices. Guess what? I said he said, and he was supposively reprimanded I was told because I made a stink about it. Now I have 3 months to loose 50 pounds because this fucking prick thinks it was cute to fuck me because of his bias. Do I blame Hillary for that? Fuck no. I blame the media and the individual. Unfortunately many individuals come together as a group, and this is where it starts. So now my life and job hang in the balance because someone just believes I'm voting for Trump? Fucking seriously?

I voted Gary Johnson BTW if you all give a shit. I couldn't vote for either 2, and there was no way I wasn't going to vote at all but fuck me right? Loser. I'm nuts for doing that.

About BLM. What I find disturbing here is what happened to Freddie Gray. Know his name right? Most do now. Where the fuck were these people for this man before that day? Ya'll give a shit about him then? No. Who fucking cares or who is he? These scenes in the main street of rioters burning a CVS. That is an area I delivered in for years.

I'm white. (in color really. I'm actually a Spic/WoP but whatever) Should I be scared when I go into that area now? Sure, maybe but I will try not to. Why? Because I respect what some of those people were actually saying on the news at the time but got cut off. The local news was doing alot of live interviews of people on location, and alot of them said it's just thugs looking to get free shit, cause problems, and make a scene. There were men standing in front of the police line to keep people from throwing things at them. One person was talking about "zip code discrimination" and how the system doesn't help what's really wrong in black America." Would you believe the camera cut off when he said that? And when it came back they said there was a tech problem and they got it resolved?

Fuck the media. 

Did any of you people outside of Baltimore hear about any of that? Because I watched it on live TV that day because I was on vacation. My wife even said to me that she was happy I was because I would've been around that area that day and she would've been scared for me.

What was the most covered thing about that day and what was pushed into the mainstream media?

You guys tell me. I watched it live. 

Fuck these liars in the whole Government and the media.

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Re: Trump wins
Reply #28 - 11/11/16 at 15:31:06
 
"If you don't like the "public figures, media trend setters, hollywood elite, youtube personalities or celebrities, gaming outlets, sports and entertainment personalities" don't watch them/listen to them/read them. Who is in the oval office has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. You're voting for the president, and the president has no control of that stuff. If you're offended by the rhetoric of goverment officials, that's a different animal, but the rest of that is just fluff."

Thrillho wrote on 11/11/16 at 09:24:52:


Hahaha. This is actually the perfect response. Yes, SJW cunt Anita Sarkeesian gets to speak before the UN. This is my point exactly; SJW's get a platform....at the United Nations.

But you're right Night, I should just ignore everything I love--video games, movies, television, the internet--the problem is that's not possible.

And I will post examples of why its annoying...every, single, day.

My passion is tearing down SJW's and the liberal influence in everything around me and I will continue to do so.

But I will get back to Donald Trump and his policies later today or tomorrow when I have time to make another huge reply but unfortunately I'm working all day.

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Reply #29 - 11/11/16 at 18:05:14
 
Just seeing the SJWs cry in fear is delicious.

Now riots have been happening and the latest hashtag trend of #NotMyPresident is a thing.

This is just greatly amusing. The only thing I want Trump to do is make their lives miserable, high time too.

It's their fault they didn't want to see Hillary for the trash she is, they suffer the consequences.

Oh and fuck this cunt, too. https://twitter.com/lorellapraeli/status/796122470247964673
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