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01/01/16 at 16:39:15
 
I don't want to start a flame war, but since my PC broke down, I haven't been here for a while. When I came back, I read all that shit about the forums dividing in two: those who liked the 2012 TM and those who didn't. I also noticed something which is what caught my attention (and it is the question I advertised in the tittle of this thread): What happened to the original TMAlliance? Some  time ago I read on the main page (before entering the forums) something that read "The old TMAlliance is under construction, nothing will be lost!" or something along the lines of that. However, that seems to have disappeared this year (or last year) and now instead of "Join our temporary forums" you just read "Join the alliance now!". That means any plans to restore the fallen TMAlliance have disappeared? Is this really...dead?
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Reply #1 - 01/01/16 at 23:38:54
 
Well, the old TMAlliance data I don't think is lost, pretty sure Mortimer (original webmaster) still has all that, but the chance of it all being restored for the public is low, but not impossible, as there are some people who would like it to return. The mix of TM 2012's failure and the disconnect between TMA and Twisted Metal video game designer (Jaffe) killed the chance of TMA being restored to what it was (and TMX videos on TMA YouTube have long since stopped), but the forum still serves a function, for the TM Black Online community and the few TM fans of old/new looking for a TM board.
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Reply #2 - 01/02/16 at 02:32:32
 
I noticed the lack of activity in the YT channel, but I really hadn't noticed that TMA and Jaffe had cut bonds. When did that happen? We were such good friends with him and with the ESP guys. (I still watch the Head-On documentary because I really like it). What happened for Jaffe not to talk to us anymore? It is a pity that such a great site went down the drain so fast. I remember back in 2009 there were great hopes to bring back the original TMA.
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Reply #3 - 01/02/16 at 03:06:03
 
The bond was cut because the TMA guys hated the new TM.
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Reply #4 - 01/02/16 at 06:38:59
 
Paraphernalia wrote on 01/02/16 at 02:32:32:
I noticed the lack of activity in the YT channel, but I really hadn't noticed that TMA and Jaffe had cut bonds. When did that happen? We were such good friends with him and with the ESP guys. (I still watch the Head-On documentary because I really like it). What happened for Jaffe not to talk to us anymore? It is a pity that such a great site went down the drain so fast. I remember back in 2009 there were great hopes to bring back the original TMA.


Yeah, I loved the old TMA.
If the series is revived and redeemed then who knows, maybe TMA will be restored, or someone will make a site like it.

I mean, forget how TMA or Jaffe feel about each other & TMX -
How did Twisted Metal/car combat fans in general feel waiting years for a broken online game and a TM story where you only play as 3 characters? and then they are told there wont be another TM for many years, if ever?

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Reply #5 - 01/02/16 at 06:39:22
 
I don't think that we not liking the new TM is an excuse for him to hate us. Most of us were skeptical (if not negative) towards Twisted Metal: Small Brawl, and it was directed by the same guys who made TM: Black (Incognito Inc.), and that game wasn't even talked about in the interview. Something else must have happened.
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Reply #6 - 01/02/16 at 06:47:23
 
Paraphernalia wrote on 01/02/16 at 06:39:22:
I don't think that we not liking the new TM is an excuse for him to hate us. Most of us were skeptical (if not negative) towards Twisted Metal: Small Brawl, and it was directed by the same guys who made TM: Black (Incognito Inc.), and that game wasn't even talked about in the interview. Something else must have happened.


That interview had a clip from Small Brawl at one point, but yeah, it's not mentioned because Jaffe wasn't involved with Small Brawl. Neither was Scott Campbell. That was Steve Ceragioli's baby.
Despite all the bad reviews for that game, many fans actually like Small Brawl. Obviously, it was a bit unfinished looking w/ the graphics, and it was a PS1 game that came out after PS2s release, which didn't help either, but over time people came to appreciate it more.
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Reply #7 - 01/02/16 at 16:17:00
 
MoshTMA wrote on 01/02/16 at 06:47:23:
That interview had a clip from Small Brawl at one point, but yeah, it's not mentioned because Jaffe wasn't involved with Small Brawl. Neither was Scott Campbell. That was Steve Ceragioli's baby.
Despite all the bad reviews for that game, many fans actually like Small Brawl. Obviously, it was a bit unfinished looking w/ the graphics, and it was a PS1 game that came out after PS2s release, which didn't help either, but over time people came to appreciate it more.


Yeah, as one of the many games developed by them, they show a small piece of gameplay of about 3 seconds, and then they show the game's developers in the credits of the interview.

Oh well, it's kinda...saddening that we lost the bonds we had with ESL, we were one of the only PS1 (or old) franchises who still talked to the developers and their mastermind on a regular basis.
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Reply #8 - 01/02/16 at 20:24:47
 
I'll make it simple. It was cluster fuck and a few assholes couldn't handle things right so shit got out of hand.

Most were simply debating the differences and pros and cons.

But its the interenet. Not everyone can be civil.
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Reply #9 - 01/03/16 at 13:28:56
 
Mosh has been here longer than me. Probably 15 years? I know I'm at least 13 years. Was such a NOOB!

You know that door in an abandoned haunted building that's closed? Your walking down that hallway with the bad feeling that maybe if you open it, something bad might happen?

WELL YOU OPENED THE FUCKING DOOR!!!! So if you go missing, it's not my fault. Just will me your stuff. Mostly your money, beer, and food.

All joking aside, what Mosh said is pretty much what helped things along. TMX being what it was, and some things that were said, and some help with one of our long standing members turning into/becoming a complete Blair like troll didn't help either.

That was really a sad thing because he was one of the foundations at this site early on, and one of it's most repsected members. Alot of us considered him a friend too.

Anyway, let me know how that door works out. It's called research and believe me, you can find it in the pages of TMA if you look for it. Just look for pages on boards with a date around a month after TMX release. That'd do ya.
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Reply #10 - 01/03/16 at 14:29:45
 
Well, after a long search...There are two people I haven't been able to find anymore: Hellbent and XIZOR. Around the date you gave me there are several posts showing discontent with the new TM, but the one that caught my eye was one that showed half the forums disliking the game while Hellbent defended it to death. I remember Hellbent, and I used to lurk on these forums since 2009 (2006 for the original TMA), and it is really a shame that he is gone. I remember XIZOR too and he used to make me laugh a lot, but I have no idea why did he leave. It is a pity that a game divided such a community in two and practically destroyed it. While some memorable members are here, a  lot have left...

And talking about Blair, that pathetic troll who tried to buy its way back here (literally 'buy'), whatever happened to the TMA cemetery? Why was it removed?
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Reply #11 - 01/03/16 at 19:17:55
 
XIZOR didn't leave over a game. There's a post somewhere that explains that one too.
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Reply #12 - 01/04/16 at 11:14:27
 
Well well. There is actually someone in the world that takes time to find things. (I know that was not easy at all) Better yet, the guy not only works to find it, he reads up on it and gets the actual information, and doesn't complain why someone who went through it, doesn't explain it in 4 hours or less. 

I commend you Sir. As far as TMX being the reason why Hellbent and Xizor are not here, that's not the biggest reason why. 

I'm still only here because I was promised alot of slutty women. I'm still waiting.

After posting that, I almost feel like Han Solo does describing things to Finn and Rey on the Falcon when they 1st met.

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Reply #13 - 01/04/16 at 14:32:49
 
MoshTMA wrote on 01/02/16 at 06:38:59:
Yeah, I loved the old TMA.
If the series is revived and redeemed then who knows, maybe TMA will be restored, or someone will make a site like it.

I mean, forget how TMA or Jaffe feel about each other & TMX -
How did Twisted Metal/car combat fans in general feel waiting years for a broken online game and a TM story where you only play as 3 characters? and then they are told there wont be another TM for many years, if ever?



I must have skipped your message, sorry. My feelings exactly to everything you said in that post.
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Reply #14 - 01/04/16 at 20:19:17
 
I honestly couldn't tell you why I stick around.
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