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Re: State of the Alliance address - March, 2013
Reply #15 - 03/16/13 at 16:26:33
 
Well i guess we have to agree to disagree?
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Reply #16 - 03/16/13 at 16:28:18
 
Archminion wrote on 03/16/13 at 15:34:02:
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Because thats exactly what was said.

You guys need to really take some reading lessons.
The negativity on the forum has come from a small group of people regarding an almost constantly repeated topic.

It is not interesting any more.

It was when it was an actual problem for the people who play but its old news now.

So constant criticism of certain games. People or even devs is not adding anything interesting to TMA.

If any of you guys can't get that then sadly i have to say you won't be missed by me at least.


What you and a lot of other people who just come to Totally Twisted or to TMA to discuss Twisted Metal in general don't understand is that there are actually two cultures that exist at TMA. The TT crowd and the Brawl crowd. Sometimes people are members of both groups but most tend to lean more to one or the other. But the Brawl culture is something that most new comers aren't even aware of and have no clue how it works. Brawl on the Wall was the backbone of this community. WE are the ones who kept this community alive in between Twisted Metal games. WE are the ones who have been coming here for 5-10 years. WE are the ones who care more about TMA as something other than just a TM fan site. The Brawl crowd were the first ones at the temp site and we were keeping the spirit alive while Totally Twisted was dead. TMA will dwindle to nothing without that aspect of the site once you're all finally done playing the new TM and there is nothing new Twisted related on the horizon.

I don't disagree at all with your point about the people who continuously trash talk the new TM being old and tiresome. Its unfortunate that some of the Brawl crowd/veterans and people I consider part of my "clique" are part of this problem. I myself didn't really like the new TM either, but I don't feel the need to ruin Totally Twisted because of it. I played the game, didn't like it, and moved on and I wish others would have done the same thing so the people who do enjoy it could talk about it in peace.

I also agree that TT should be heavily moderated and kept drama free. And that is also why Brawl on the Wall existed in the first place; it was a place for people who had a disagreement to take their beef or "brawls".

However, Brawl should not be so heavily moderated. Its a place to cut loose, bash and brawl for fun or sport, throw out insults and give out belts, talk about anything under the sun, and to schedule, discuss and play other games that other members of the community are interested in. Its not meant to be censored and neither is TMA really. This has always been a place of free speech for adults. That is the way its always been....for over 10 years.

Mort's post is basically just a giant "fuck you" to that community or side of the site and basically just confirms what we all knew a long time ago. And that's a shame considering how much time, energy, and even money some of us have contributed to TMA over the years. But that was our choice, and none of us regret it.

You aren't a part of the Brawl crowd Archminion, so most of the subjects bouncing around in this thread are going right over your head. That's not a diss on you at all. Just an observation.
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Reply #17 - 03/16/13 at 16:50:51
 
Mortimer wrote on 03/16/13 at 01:56:35:

Even more shocking was the way TMA turned on ESP/David Jaffe, just because most people here didn't like the new Twisted Metal. It might be surprising, but finishing 2.0 was not supposed to facilitate being disrespectful jackasses to ESP on Totally Twisted, or myself on Brawl on the Wall. This is a Twisted Metal fansite, first and foremost. We're supposed to be fans, and respect for the creators of REAL Twisted Metal, and TMA, should be paramount. They are not 989 Studios; comparing TMX to TM3/4 is just unacceptable and these people clearly are taking that statement too lightly, and never understood that era. For this behaviour we may never be in any special thanks ever again; which is gutting. A lot of people should have been suspended or even banned, but due to their friendships with certain admins and cliques, and the general lawlessness around here, nothing happened. I feel TMA (even in this temporary state) has strayed too far away from our roots. A lot of what has been said around here over the last year might be considered 'free speech', but at TMA, I think it's pure blasphemy. This community needs to return to having the upmost respect for the developers/designers of TM's we love (Dave/ESP/Incog), for TMA, and ourselves. It's one thing to be disappointed in the new TM and express your issues, but it's quite another to treat Dave/ESP with such disdain and fallen grace, that he no longer thinks of us in the same positive light he once did anymore. The minority of people around here that liked the new TM were made to feel like outcasts, because we didn't agree with the veterans (a lot of new fans even driven away because this place was unwelcoming to them). TMA's long held reputation went down the drain in the process, and for what? Apologies all around wouldn't hurt.


Your post just really really rubs me the wrong way. Love ya to death but good god that was one of the worst posts I have ever read on this website.

Where to begin?

This series of events with ESP/Jaffe and disrespect.... is completely the opposite of what really happened.

No one was disrespectful jackasses; at least not TMA regulars (random weirdos anyone?). This website used to stand for intelligent discussion, and we prided ourselves on that (awards anyone?). How in the hell is dissecting gameplay and making comparisons being disrespectful? Being disrespectful would be cussing a storm or wishing death upon a dev (like Truth said with Diablo3). Breaking down how and WHY design decisions created an otherwise unpleasant experience is not that, not even close.

If anything the people who voiced problems with the games and discussed it in an intelligent manner were blacklisted and slandered to high hell.

Take for example TMHO and its launch: No one liked TMHO. Fact. We discussed why it sucked in very poignant manners (eg: gameplay). No one had a panic attack there did we? No. And no one was disrespecting ESP at that time by laying out why it was a bare bones gameplay experience. How was this new game any different? Oh right, because there was a witch hunt on anyone who had a problem with the new game made out by a few members.

We are fans of Twisted Metal for a reason, not blind fan-boys. There is nothing wrong with criticism. Just because someone is ignorant as fuck about what we are talking about and screaming that we are being disrespectful, does NOT make it so.

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Second, its clear to me this website will never recover. It is dead. And its too little too late to make changes. But i dont really see any changes, seeing as the bias and tone of your post make it quite clear who and what you are talking about. And the idea that we should fall in line like blind fanboys doesn't sit well with me and doesn't make a lick of sense either.

You want to scold a certain "clique" of people for their terrible behavior while you are absent...? Yet you have let Blair back at the website time and time again, and Hellbent... running around like an unchained hound who never followed the rules and helped DESTROY THIS WEBSITE FOR YEARS gets no mention whatsoever? And you dont read the website, so you are taking some seriously bias morons at their word at what others are doing.

You routinely knew Hellbent was wrong on almost every occasion, you knew he was destroying the website... and instead of diffuse the situation and tell him he was wrong (hell you are the only one he listens to), you DID NOTHING. I respect you so I never posted our conversations or said a single word you say (or tell a soul).

This happened on many many occasions, and again... NOTHING.

You could have prevented wars and stopped the hemorrhaging of this community years ago, but did NOTHING. Now suddenly you care? This is far far far too late my friend.

I simply dont care to be a part of a community that turns on its own members, will uphold lies and fraudulent claims, and has clear bias issues when it comes to laying down the law. I have technically left the website ages ago and looked for greener pastures to discuss video games without getting into battles and found some nice substitutes.

But really... How many people have to leave before the obvious problems becomes clear? I guess mods/admins were afraid Hellbent would slit his wrists if he was ever banned? So an entire community has to accommodate one problem poster? And at the expense of the community itself?!

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Whatever.

This entire post was really disjointed but it is from the heart and honest (as I always am when I post).

Mort - I respect you and consider you a friend, I really do, and have stood up for you time and time again. Know that i have no ill will towards you, still think of you in good light, and im being honest as a friend.

I understand that you want to put a muzzle on the community now of all times but because you have picked and chosen your battles for years, its cost TMA its soul; the people. Me. I can't just keep taking this abuse and watching the site crumble. Its not worth it. I am ten years older, have a career ahead of me, and don't have time to educate (babysit) and fight ignorance any longer.

I wish you the best with TMA 2.0, I was never one to care about it too much and didnt mind posting here.

But again, I will not be a part of it, as I am pretty sure many others wont. I want no part in a website that harbors disgusting human beings and people that are toxic to any form of discussion such as Hellbent.

To everyone else, ggs. Will keep in touch in other avenues.

My original register date was Feb 2003, so I guess its fitting I leave after a ten year stay. Smiley

EDIT: Means I will still pop in to glance from time to time, but my involvement with the site is pretty much over completely.
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Re: State of the Alliance address - March, 2013
Reply #18 - 03/16/13 at 17:13:24
 
And I was talking purely about what has went on on Totally Twisted.

Regarding Brawl- that's not my fight.
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Reply #19 - 03/16/13 at 18:31:05
 
I don't wanna make this too long, because I've got other shit to do, Taken to kill with a cheap flashlight, and most importantly, this will more than likely to my last post at TMA anyway.

See now, I came here close to five years ago looking for news and info on the future of Twisted Metal, since all we had gotten at that point was a shitty PSP game, and a slightly less shitty port of the same game to the PS2. Instead, what I found was a rough and tumble community built on gaming as a whole. Sure, I was overwhelmed at the fact that there was a whole group of people who loved Twisted Metal as much as me, but in the end, I've come away with much more. Because of TMA, and more importantly, Brawl, I've made a bunch of new friends, stepped into this generation on gaming, and have had some of the most entertaining multiplayer experiences I've ever had, just short of X-Men Legends and my 4-way adapter. Totally Twisted is hardly active now, and we just had a totally new, decade-long awaited game drop just over a year ago. And it's been next to dead for months now. What do you think is gonna happen with this ABC Family Night TMA 2.0 you have cooking, Mort? It's going to die a slow, painful death and you'll only be able to sit there and hold it in your arms and watch it take it's last breath.

Don't get me wrong, Mr. Webmaster. I have the utmost respect for you since you did, in fact, create this site (well, real TMA I mean). It's because of your creation that I feel the way I do. Had I come to the game much later, I'd have no clue what's going on in this thread, but because I got here when I did, I got to experience the majority of what everyone is talking about. You cutting off Brawl On The Wall, siting that it just doesn't work anymore is like a slap in the face. Brawl was the pumping heart, feeding life-blood into TMA and keeping it from flatlining when Twisted Metal went on a ten-year hiatus, throwing us scraps into the backyard in the form of TMHO and it's port. TMA would have been dead in the water had it not been for Brawl, and this is how you repay the people responsible? By backhandedly telling the those responsible that they're now irrelevant? Roadie, Xizor, SynthR... They're absolutely right. You don't give a shit about the community, or the members who maintained it. Instead, you let Hellbent run wild, doing whatever in the fuck he damn well pleased. It was almost like you let him loose to assassinate Brawl, and have a reason to usher in this "new" Downtime horseshit. You might as well have changed the board name to your hand and middle finger with the vets names written on it.
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Reply #20 - 03/16/13 at 18:44:41
 
SynthR wrote on 03/16/13 at 15:58:38:
This is exactly what's being said. 95 percent of the vets (who are probably 95 percent of the activity at this site) posted on Brawl on a daily basis and they got along. We talked about anything and everything. BOTW existed for that sole purpose. It didn't have to be about Twisted Metal, wasn't supposed to. Yet, when we have differing opinions about TM, developers, what have you, they become marked for death for speaking. Tough. That's life. Now all that is being canned? Sounds PG to me.

This calm water paradise that's being dreamt up isn't going to happen, certainly not for the reasons that are being stated. We won't be missed? Nobody wants to be here, so ditto.


Yeah. As a first generation TMA'er since February 2000, Brawl on the Wall was one of the original walls on TMA. It was that place where a little wackiness, a little hint of anarchy could be practiced with certain unspoken limits. My presence has been uneven here the last few years but I always liked to creep in and have some laughs at BOTW, enjoy a little ball busting and conversation. TMA's brand has always been more 'R' rated, less regulated, more freedom-friendly since the walls came on back in 2000.

If TMA truly becomes a tightly regulated, bland, PG-rated, politically correct website where we all have to wear mandatory kid-gloves it will be just another paint-by-numbers, cardboard cut-out of a website that can be found anywhere. What made me stick around TMA for well over a decade was the colorful, individualistic community and the unique points of view that spanned across it. We each have a unique personality and perspective -- switching to a more PG-level site is like watching your favorite TV show jump the shark on purpose.

I can safely say I don't like the road that we are driving on -- the road to PC, PG, kid-glove country. It's hara-kiri to the infinite power. TMA is the Titanic and I'm the son of a bitch who is jumping out in a lifeboat before we hit the PG-rated iceberg. Like I said earlier in this post -- my presence has been uneven the last few years but this post cements what I see as the future of TMA. I've been a poster at this site since I was in my early teen years and now as I approach 28 I have to cut the umbilical cord of TMA off me....never thought I would see myself breaking away from this place but the cock and balls (the heart) of this place is being cut out. I'll keep my cock, balls and individuality over being a bland, boring, politically correct robot. Fuck that jazz.

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Reply #21 - 03/16/13 at 18:48:32
 
I have always come here to support the true Twisted Metal series, & I wholeheartedly agree with the opening post. It has been ugly here & exponentially unwelcoming in parts of Totally Twisted. I do wish it would go back to the old TMA where there was structure & regard for high esteem; the worship Mort speaks of that we had for the developers. It's a beautiful game & I have been trying to keep there servers busy as well, been hosting my own unranked unlimited carnage deathmatches in case people want to late join without delay. You'll see me in a room by myself waiting for that unsuspecting noob or a cacophonous & intense one on one with a pro.

Here's to TMA as always, as I do live here.

As for Brawl, you vets can have it, I never liked it much, just Totally Twisted because ten years never hindered my obsession.
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Reply #22 - 03/16/13 at 19:29:00
 
I have to agree with RoaDiE on this one.
Seriously Mort I would not impose too much control around here, if people can't express themselves they will leave.

I also feel Mort has done enough for the community and owes us nothing.

If I ran this site TMPS3 would have killed my will to continue further development, but I do believe a much better TM is on the way regardless of what Jaffe says, so when the PS4 comes out this site will be ressurected again along with the TM franchise.

Also thinking about forming a new clan, if anyone is interested please let know ( not sure if anyone would be but if enough are I might pursue it).

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Reply #23 - 03/16/13 at 21:16:04
 
A fair amount of people hate me and i totally get that.

Personally i'm sad to see BOTW go away. But as long as groups of people can have their entire experiences at TMA ruined by a single poster. Then BOTW isn't something that can be around.

When BOTW was slow often times i would be the only one posting and replying for weeks straight. This wasn't because of a lack of tolerance but due to a lack of participation, even from the people complaining about me today. This would be the first dry spot where i've been blamed as the source of the lack of posters rather then the only person participating.

In the past BOTW was something that kept the people who participated in it around. It wasn't something we took too seriously. We took TMA seriously and BOTW was were we hung out when we couldn't tolerate talking about what we want in next TM or which vehicle everybody likes the most.

Blair for example wasn't hated for his insulting TMA posters. He was hated for how he would rip on the TMB style. He'd insult Jaffe for not making TMB exactly like TM2. Even Mort for supporting Jaffe. Nobody liked him for that and as he continued his downward spiral as he got way too involved to the point of attacking TMA. To this day he still takes everything which occurred on BOTW and TMA as serious business.

I imagine because when he spent what, $600 for his own post? Nobody on BOTW liked that especially not me. So i bombed his purchased post in protest losing my status in the TMA leadership. Is that one of the terrible things i've done over the years that made things so miserable for you at TMA?

How about V-wing? We ragged on him relentlessly. You know why i felt it was okay? He never played any TM games. He came to TMA and stuck around for BOTW and the social side. Which was really just people calling him queer for a couple of years. Your group would still be bashing him today if he were around.

I bashed on P7 as much as everyone else here. But with you guys that kind of stuff never stops. At least i leave people alone after a little hazing unless i'm given reasons to hate someone. You zone in on them like a pack of wolves.

Regardless of how you feel about me. All i hear are apologies, salt, and no explanations for your own behavior.

"Hellbent" isn't a good excuse either. I don't believe anything I've done could spur that much salt out of an entire group of people that aren't looking for fights. I'm the person dealing with a group of people. I should be the one who can't tolerate it anymore.

Truthfully i couldn't tolerate it anymore and that is a large reason why i attacked the people who i attacked on BOTW. I bombed Blairs post because of his anti TMBO/Dave/Mort speech because i couldn't tolerate it. I ragged on the things you guys enjoy because of the way you trash TMX, TMA, and even Dave and ESP. It's not something we tolerated on old TMA.

Deep down we don't get along. But the reasoning for me attacking you guys has always been right there out in the open. If you need me to take blame for all this drama then BOTW can't be around. You'll just go crazy again the minute i find reasons to not like the next X-box shooter.

Hell i left the Borderlands 2 thread alone specifically for the sake of you guys enjoying your game. Even then with your favorite game to distract you. You find time to post negative stuff about TMX. A game which i believe every one of "you" no longer own.

I'm an asshole but i'm no hypocrite. I'm no longer attacking you. But i do want to know why TMX needs to be ragged on so hard.
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Reply #25 - 03/16/13 at 21:53:54
 
Obviously I am a newbie here.  Been a fan of Twisted Metal ever since I got it on my PSOne as a kid, about 6 or maybe 7 years old, maybe younger.  When I started getting into TMB, I started becoming extremely interested in every Twisted Metal made(even 3 and 4).  Sometimes I stumbled upon the old TMA.  Not the forum part, but the part with all the bios, history, the stories of each character; I loved it.  I was only maybe 12 at the time I found the site, but I thought TMAlliance.com was the coolest damn place on the internet.  Recently, in the past month or so, I finally got around to posting on these forums, being 16 now.

I suppose I am far too late.  By the looks of things, most of the veterans are leaving, Brawl is going down(which I haven't even started posting in there yet), and Hellbent is getting A LOT of hate.  Honestly, he is really one of the few that I actually see post in the Totally Twisted board.  Does he say things I disagree with?  Of course, everyone disagrees with certain things.  I haven't read anything from the past 10-13 years, or however long, so I cannot judge about the past. 

The present is barely working.  I feel as if I must stay here, just to try and keep up the activity.  I love Twisted Metal as much as the next poster, so I feel like this is almost a last resort to saving the game.  Many of you say that you've had close relations with developers, including Jaffe himself by talking to them through IM, email, even Twitter now.  This site was mentioned in the special thanks of the new TM game.  That is how important we are to the series, and if this site goes down, that could even hurt the chances of another Twisted Metal being made. 

I thought the new ideas for TMA 2.0 will be awesome, but it sounds like it will only be used for information on Twisted Metal.  No Brawl and stricter rules are going to turn off many of the few members left.  Mort, I would rethink your ideas, so it makes the members happy.
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Reply #26 - 03/16/13 at 22:03:42
 
Hellbent wrote on 03/16/13 at 21:16:04:
How about V-wing? We ragged on him relentlessly. You know why i felt it was okay? He never played any TM games.


He played TM2PC for years.

You might not know that cuz you didnt play.
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Reply #27 - 03/16/13 at 22:06:07
 
Hellbent wrote on 03/16/13 at 21:16:04:
A fair amount of people hate me and i totally get that.

Personally i'm sad to see BOTW go away. But as long as groups of people can have their entire experiences at TMA ruined by a single poster. Then BOTW isn't something that can be around.

When BOTW was slow often times i would be the only one posting and replying for weeks straight. This wasn't because of a lack of tolerance but due to a lack of participation, even from the people complaining about me today. This would be the first dry spot where i've been blamed as the source of the lack of posters rather then the only person participating.

In the past BOTW was something that kept the people who participated in it around. It wasn't something we took too seriously. We took TMA seriously and BOTW was were we hung out when we couldn't tolerate talking about what we want in next TM or which vehicle everybody likes the most.

Blair for example wasn't hated for his insulting TMA posters. He was hated for how he would rip on the TMB style. He'd insult Jaffe for not making TMB exactly like TM2. Even Mort for supporting Jaffe. Nobody liked him for that and as he continued his downward spiral as he got way too involved to the point of attacking TMA. To this day he still takes everything which occurred on BOTW and TMA as serious business.

I imagine because when he spent what, $600 for his own post? Nobody on BOTW liked that especially not me. So i bombed his purchased post in protest losing my status in the TMA leadership. Is that one of the terrible things i've done over the years that made things so miserable for you at TMA?

How about V-wing? We ragged on him relentlessly. You know why i felt it was okay? He never played any TM games. He came to TMA and stuck around for BOTW and the social side. Which was really just people calling him queer for a couple of years. Your group would still be bashing him today if he were around.

I bashed on P7 as much as everyone else here. But with you guys that kind of stuff never stops. At least i leave people alone after a little hazing unless i'm given reasons to hate someone. You zone in on them like a pack of wolves.

Regardless of how you feel about me. All i hear are apologies, salt, and no explanations for your own behavior.

"Hellbent" isn't a good excuse either. I don't believe anything I've done could spur that much salt out of an entire group of people that aren't looking for fights. I'm the person dealing with a group of people. I should be the one who can't tolerate it anymore.

Truthfully i couldn't tolerate it anymore and that is a large reason why i attacked the people who i attacked on BOTW. I bombed Blairs post because of his anti TMBO/Dave/Mort speech because i couldn't tolerate it. I ragged on the things you guys enjoy because of the way you trash TMX, TMA, and even Dave and ESP. It's not something we tolerated on old TMA.

Deep down we don't get along. But the reasoning for me attacking you guys has always been right there out in the open. If you need me to take blame for all this drama then BOTW can't be around. You'll just go crazy again the minute i find reasons to not like the next X-box shooter.

Hell i left the Borderlands 2 thread alone specifically for the sake of you guys enjoying your game. Even then with your favorite game to distract you. You find time to post negative stuff about TMX. A game which i believe every one of "you" no longer own.

I'm an asshole but i'm no hypocrite. I'm no longer attacking you. But i do want to know why TMX needs to be ragged on so hard.



Just like the example Roadie gave.Your bullshit/lies never stop which is why this thread exists.
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Reply #28 - 03/17/13 at 00:37:40
 
I think this is really pointless/and/or stupid but it doesn't really matter since I was planning on moving on soon anyway.

I have seven days to finally put up a post I've been working on and then I'm good.  

I hope your plans work out for you.


Edit

I do want to point out that:

1.  NONE of the long time vets trashed ESP, OR Dave.  We expressed clear and valid disapointment for the game, but we did NOT trash them.

2.  Dave DID trash us.

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Reply #29 - 03/17/13 at 01:09:13
 
Hellbent wrote on 03/16/13 at 21:16:04:
A fair amount of people hate me and i totally get that.

Personally i'm sad to see BOTW go away. But as long as groups of people can have their entire experiences at TMA ruined by a single poster. Then BOTW isn't something that can be around.

When BOTW was slow often times i would be the only one posting and replying for weeks straight. This wasn't because of a lack of tolerance but due to a lack of participation, even from the people complaining about me today. This would be the first dry spot where i've been blamed as the source of the lack of posters rather then the only person participating.

In the past BOTW was something that kept the people who participated in it around. It wasn't something we took too seriously. We took TMA seriously and BOTW was were we hung out when we couldn't tolerate talking about what we want in next TM or which vehicle everybody likes the most.

Blair for example wasn't hated for his insulting TMA posters. He was hated for how he would rip on the TMB style. He'd insult Jaffe for not making TMB exactly like TM2. Even Mort for supporting Jaffe. Nobody liked him for that and as he continued his downward spiral as he got way too involved to the point of attacking TMA. To this day he still takes everything which occurred on BOTW and TMA as serious business.

I imagine because when he spent what, $600 for his own post? Nobody on BOTW liked that especially not me. So i bombed his purchased post in protest losing my status in the TMA leadership. Is that one of the terrible things i've done over the years that made things so miserable for you at TMA?

How about V-wing? We ragged on him relentlessly. You know why i felt it was okay? He never played any TM games. He came to TMA and stuck around for BOTW and the social side. Which was really just people calling him queer for a couple of years. Your group would still be bashing him today if he were around.

I bashed on P7 as much as everyone else here. But with you guys that kind of stuff never stops. At least i leave people alone after a little hazing unless i'm given reasons to hate someone. You zone in on them like a pack of wolves.

Regardless of how you feel about me. All i hear are apologies, salt, and no explanations for your own behavior.

"Hellbent" isn't a good excuse either. I don't believe anything I've done could spur that much salt out of an entire group of people that aren't looking for fights. I'm the person dealing with a group of people. I should be the one who can't tolerate it anymore.

Truthfully i couldn't tolerate it anymore and that is a large reason why i attacked the people who i attacked on BOTW. I bombed Blairs post because of his anti TMBO/Dave/Mort speech because i couldn't tolerate it. I ragged on the things you guys enjoy because of the way you trash TMX, TMA, and even Dave and ESP. It's not something we tolerated on old TMA.

Deep down we don't get along. But the reasoning for me attacking you guys has always been right there out in the open. If you need me to take blame for all this drama then BOTW can't be around. You'll just go crazy again the minute i find reasons to not like the next X-box shooter.

Hell i left the Borderlands 2 thread alone specifically for the sake of you guys enjoying your game. Even then with your favorite game to distract you. You find time to post negative stuff about TMX. A game which i believe every one of "you" no longer own.

I'm an asshole but i'm no hypocrite. I'm no longer attacking you. But i do want to know why TMX needs to be ragged on so hard.


This is the exact horseshit we've been talking about. No one from Brawl has bad-mouthed TMX in an extremely long time, because no one from Brawl has even bothered with the TT wall. The only reason it got fired up again was because Arch moved the thread to Brawl, essentially putting it in our faces. It's just more of your crap, Hellbent. Just like all of your accusations as to why no one liked TMX. You just make up your own crap, ignore their replies, then repeat it over and over. You damn good and well what everyone's issues were with the game, but you just kept on saying the same one-lined bullshit like a scratched CD in a shitty CD player.
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