joe twisted wrote on 03/12/13 at 01:42:52:


Ranked matches suck in this game. Custom matches allow the host to boot players and people can switch teams.

Ranked does a real bad job at organizing teams and i believe it's partially due to how long it takes your Skill % to register. If a good player has a shit day and has a skill of 60% he'll be considered weak practically all day regardless of his actual performance until the skill % updates..  

You can also alter things like friendly fire damage, the health truck, weather or not people are permanently on radar (some cars like reaper can hide to compensate for no invisibility move), and lots of other stuff. It's a bit hard to get people to play organized matches but when you do play with custom settings the games are way better.

Custom games are far more coordinated and balanced. i'm able to balance the teams to the point where most games were decided by only a few lives. We even had a few ties. The way ranked handles the teams makes it unplayable for me. But i can do custom all day. Ranked has a bad habit of putting the best players on the same team and not switching it up even if the other team gets the shit kicked out of them several times.

In custom we split the best players and if one team has more skilled players we give the other team superior numbers by giving them the weakest players. It evens out a whole lot. I personally select vehicles like Reaper and Crimson Fury that are high risk and difficult to use when i'm on the team with the advantage. It's more fun and it keeps the game interesting.

Ranked is just not enjoyable. It's as agitating as unlimited weapons just because of the way the game handles teams. It would do a better job if it just randomly jumbled everyone up.

I love TMX and still continue to play it. Overall I'm happy to have a TM on the PS3, but there are some undeniable and questionable things about it.

All the time it took to make it. Cars sharing same specials. No beta for a MULTIPLAYER game ?

The network errors have been mostly fixed for me, but at launch it was 90% failure and 100% disconnect the following game. I could probably think of a better way to kill the triumphant return of a title. Might take me a few minutes.

I also speculate that there was time periods during it's development when there was no one working on the game at all for months.



It's a great game but it just seems like they were only half way finished with it.

Skywalker wrote on 03/12/13 at 11:48:46:



I like the idea of the skill ranking. But considering the way they handled it. It's not good enough to be part of the team balancing mechanic of the game.

The teams should just be randomized. There is no good automated system. For instance i hate how in Team Fortress 2 you can be kicking serious ass then right before the end of the game it swaps you to the other side to rebalance the teams.

It's way better if it's just random every match. At least in ranked.


The Truth wrote on 03/12/13 at 10:05:20:


Haha want to talk about launch problems? How about how TMBO has never had any cheat protection because of the PS2's design? Or how TMHO was built in 9 months to help sell PSP's then abandoned by Sony before the PSP even finished it's lifecycle?

It was impossible to play TMX with friends at launch. But i had no problem getting into games.  If you couldn't get into a match 60% of the time it's most likely your internet connection that was the problem. Especially today after the patches. I never have problems connecting to Mort, Mosh, and Afro.

I agree this is Sony's fault though. They didn't screw this one up as badly TMBO though with the total lack of vehicle balance and exclusion of team modes. Or TMHO where they simply stopped paying Incog to work on it and abandoned it entirely after it was hacked to hell and back. Because TMHO was a title made in less then a year to help move PSP's. Not a best seller made for the fans.

The fact you don't hold Sony at all responsible for releasing the game in that state or the laughable support on all the other TM games proves you're either an idiot or butt hurt.

Hell i know TMX has problems. The entire TM series does. None of them really "work" online. TMX is the only one still online that doesn't require me to organize 8 fans of the game to play under made up rules.

But seriously blaming ESP and Incog for all of Twisted Metals online problems? How can anyone even be that much of a fan of Sony? What is it that they do for you?

Are you one of those people who goes around pissed off at people who like X-box more then Playstation? Because the X-box really is better. I'm shocked people can be dumb enough to enjoy PSN and think that it runs like shit because it's free.

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Claiming TMBO ran perfectly is dishonest.

There is not a single person claiming TMX had a good launch. Just people who come here specifically to bash the game. As well as people who play the game like me and most of the newer posters. In fact you are more upset about TMX's launch problems than anyone and you don't even like, play, or own the game.

I made most of the older posters leave apparently, though they didn't really play Twisted Metal. So that was really dead weight. The only ones left are those who have a vendetta against TMX and the people who play the games.

What is fascinating to me about you Kilrahi is that for as long as i've known you on TMA your main purpose has been to promote TMBO over all the other games.

Sure you've said you like TM2. But that isn't what you really think. You think the ramming is a detriment to smaller vehicles. That's fine. But you don't just think up "facts" like that. You try to promote the idea that TMBO is some kind of superior game on a level far above the others.

The Twisted Metal series has been a disaster online. Claiming TMBO is the one with the least problems is just more evidence that you are just a TMBO fanatic who has some kind of inner need to establish that the game had superior attributes.

Truthfully you can't measure TMBO's problems against TMX's problems due to the generational gap. Neither game is balanced enough for required skill to be a realistic attribute to judge the games by either.

What you really don't understand is this. Twisted Metal is like Marvel vs Capcom. You might think MVC2 is better then MVC3. Or that MVC1 was the most fun. But the fact is all of the games are fun. None of them are well made for Multiplayer however. The only reasonable merit you can judge these games by is how fun they are to play.

They aren't chess, hockey, or even Quake 3. They are asymmetrical madness and that is why they are so fun to play. A balanced version of Twisted Metal would be extremely boring compared to what they actually give us.

Though in all honesty while this is a point i'd like to prove. I only rag on TMBO because it agitates you Kilrahi. Also the lack of ramming makes it the least fun Twisted Metal game. The netcode is sloppy too, socom ran way better and it had voice chat. So it also really confuses me that you have to enter a cheat code to chat in TMBO.

It's as if Sony fucked with the design of TMBO so much that you didn't get team functionality or server options. It also runs like they had to design an engine that wouldn't look like shit on 56k and just fills in the blanks to give players the illusion of the gaming environment being stable.

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Seriously though i'll take the game that can exist online without custom made rules and a cult fan base. The lack of team modes in TMBO goes beyond programming failure and goes into design failure.

The fact that you are comparing TMBO netcode to TMPS3 netcode proves something in itself. They shouldn't be comparable. The difference shouldn't be as negligible as to it even be a fair fight. It was almost a decade later.

The Truth wrote on 03/12/13 at 10:05:20:


I'll say its your crappy connection?

RoketPowered wrote on 03/13/13 at 03:08:21:


Shit connection.