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Orion's TMBO Tier List
02/06/13 at 03:59:38
 
I know I'll be getting gruff from veterans of the game like Kilrahi and Roadie, but here it goes.

This is my rendition of the TMBO Tier chart and why they fall under that rank. The best place to start will be at the top going from S Rank to F Rank with S being the best and F being the worst. Again this is just my opinion based off of the years I have played TMBO.

S. Warthog:
There are many reasons he is at the top of the list. He has the fastest recharge time for a special weapon in the game. Does horrific damage with his special and his fireballs home in on targets well, doing insane damage at the same time. (in just a few seconds a vehicle can go from green to yellow roughly 60 dmg, they also make no noise when hitting enemy targets). To top it all off he drifts really well and can move quickly for a vehicle of his size. Warthog is God in this game (Sorry Kil).

A. Manslaughter:
The 2nd best vehicle in the game in my opinion. He is heavily armored and has a good drift when doing turns. The Rock Cluster special is what puts him near the top. A rear fired rock cluster on an unsuspecting vehicle directly behind him can knock them from green to red to even dead. It is just as effective firing the cargo of rocks forward, some clustering on one vehicle doing about 40 damage or more. If that were not enough he even has a sheild glitch in which the force field is not readily visible from vehicles from afar.

A. Axel:
This vehicle has some of the best attack options offensively as well as defensively. His Shockwave does 20 damage roughly per vehicle in it's range. It has a wide area of effect and hits enemies behind walls. He can dodge just about anything really easily, it's close to impossible to get a missile lock on him. Also, his secondary doubles as a shield (increases his armor class to Warthog like levels). The Rollerball attack does a respectable amount of damage to any one vehicle in his way dealing about 45 dmg depending on armor of the opponent on the receiving end.  If he had his ability to rollerball multiple targets with one special from a game I choose not to discuss, then I would be inclined to give him a God status of S.

A-. Darkside:
This vehicle is amazing as you can be creative in many ways in using her Special Weapon which makes her fun to use (far better than her predicesor in the new TM).  Rear Ramming or even T-Sliding works wonders to vehicles and you can even attain ramming bonuses. Her special is lag proof, giving it priority when playing online. Her only drawback is speed, but then her Ram can double as a nitro boost. Her special recharges fast too. There are few vehicles that can topple another vehicles with just a few hits, and Darkside is one of them.

B+.Crazy 8:
Crazy 8 is one of my favorites. When the Tazer connects it does fair damage in blue form, but in violet form its damage increases at least two fold and if unchecked can deal about 60 damage in one sequence. This is only possible if your opponent does not sheild otherwise the Tazer Attack is wasted. If enough specials are saved however, the Tazer Attack can be spammed and nothing short of taking out Crazy 8 would stop it. The fact his special can go through walls and ceilings is what makes Crazy 8 an above average vehicle on this tier list.

B. Shadow:
Shadow has some great tools in her arsenal. One is kinda useless the other however is her gem, the Shadow Bomb. The reason being is that the Shadow Bomb can hit multiple targets and does roughly upwards of 45 damage per hit per vehicle. If the purple lights in the shadow align together the damage increases. Like several other special weapons in the game, the special can be spammed making her somewhat a controversial vehicle to play as. Shadow Bombs can hit enemy vehicles behind walls increasing her vehicles worth overall. Her secondary can be dodged completely if done correctly, sort of lowering her tier wise. She has slightly above averarge armor with a respectable handling and dodging capability.

B. Junkyard Dog:
Billy Ray Stillwell has a very decent vehicle to use in the contest in Junkyard Dog. His special weapon consists of a launchable, explosive, wrecking ball that deals roughly 30 damage per hit. You can hit with it multiple times if you save plenty of them in your weapon inventory. He moves a bit on the slow side but drifts well. Unfortunately, he is usually the first vehicle everone goes after as he is quite the threat in a battle. Overall, it's a great vehicle having a great balance of power and armor.

B-. Minion:
This vehicle has just about the same special as Warthog with one big difference a very slow recharge time. Minion is just not in the same league as Warthog as Warthog for one can outrun him and Minion is a much bigger target. He does however have the best armor in the game and takes alot longer to destroy. He moves fast enough, has a great drift. On a bad note, he also has some terrible control, and is somewhat cumbersome to drive. Again, the reason he is a "B" class vehicle is mainly his Special Weapon Power.

C+. Yellowjacket:
Another vehicle that has many attack options making it a cut above average. His special can be used as a projectile as I've used this option many times and on average a player can get about 20 damage when going this route. The better payoff however is ramming a vehicle with the spikes out, usually a T-Bone charge will get the maximum damage. If used properly, Yellowjacket can easily take a vehicle from green to yellow in a few moments. If he "pops" a vehicle it can get them to red sometimes. His regeneration time is about average for his Special Weapon, so it's worthwhile vehicle to use overall. Speed, dodging and maneuvering all all great for him, just don't use him for maps like Suburbs unless you are really looking for a challenge.

C. Roadkill:
Many have called him a gentlemans pick, and I agree. Roadkill has a special weapon that takes skill to pull off. Unfortunately, it can be heard when charged, and that definately takes away from the element of suprise when attempting to attck with the Missile Barrage (which is why he's a "C" rank vehicle vs. a "B" rank). Fully charged, they can take a fair chunk of health from an opponent. What saves him from being lower on my tier list is Roadkill has great maneuverability, having fair armor and is a great vehicle to use for dodging homing missiles and the like.

C-. Spectre:
Spectre has been known as perhaps the cheapest vehicle in the game. She does have some benefits, although not quite enough to push her into the higher leagues. Her Ghost Missile has the best homing capability of the game, but it moves slow and can be seen and heard. The recharge time is only fair and it can be dodged or outran. Saving them is probably the only good strategy, as odds are once an opponent has used a sheild they probably won't have another. The fact that the shield is the same color as her vehicle makes it difficult to tell if she is sheilded or not.

D. Outlaw:
Outlaw is a bit of a risk to use. I have to say without the Blue Missiles of Outlaw, it would be like sending a mongoloid into a fight with Ken from Street Fighter. The Blue Missiles are Outlaw's Bread and Butter dealing about 8 dmg per Blue Missile. They add up and if a vehicle shields or dodges some of the attack, you can at least run away with about 24 dmg on average.  Unfortunately this is is where the "D" rank comes in, his special can be completely avoided by driving a certain way to avoid the gun turret. So in essence, this makes him all but useless. On the plus side he does have great armor and drifts pretty good.

D. Sweettooth:
As the star of the franchise, you would expect Needles Kane would have a wicked vehicle to use, unfortunatley this is not the case. His special much like Outlaws can be dodged and altoghter avoided sometimes by just hiding behind a corner or sidestepping it. The recharge time for his special is bad, and does not drift all that well like some of the larger vehicles. An effective strategy is to fire a freeze hope it lands (you are screwed if this is dodged) then fire away taking about 45 damage total. Also, there is a chance the missiles will crash into the ground, so being aware of the angle you fire them is a must.

D-. Mr. Grimm:
Sadly, Mr. Grimm is really low in my tier list. On the plus side his Scythes can be fired continually linking them one after another. The weapon works really well when used in combination wth the freeze making this vehicle a very real threat. His Scythe on the average does about 50 damage (guaranteed when they count) . There are some problems with the scythes such as they have a tendency to move away from your target the further they go out or hitting your opponents ghost not doing any damage. The thing really keeping Grimm in the lower ranks is his low armor and a Special weapon that is not all that dependable.

F. Brimstone:
This is definately a skill vehicle as there are so many drawbacks for it (mainly in the Sinner Special). The special weapon has poor homing capability and tends to miss often(using his drift/slide helps a little but not on bumpy terrain). This is even when you try to lead your shots. Another sad thing about the special is from time to time a "Diet Brim" is fired doing little damage (about 5-10 dmg vs. 25 dmg) . No other vehicle shares this unfortunate characteristic. The weapon can also be neutralized by a rival player by holding down the shoulder buttons at the right time and has a slower recharge time. The vehicle itself however is decent having great drift and maneuvering capabilities along with having excepional dodging.
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Reply #1 - 02/06/13 at 07:56:02
 
Nice job on the list

I agree with your placement on both Outlaw and Spectre. I always thought Outlaws turret did a good bit of damage alone, granted if it hits. Not sure though.
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Reply #2 - 02/06/13 at 18:53:30
 
Sorry Onion.  Your tier list will never be accepted so long as Axel is not at the top.

How you can possibly rate him third place is a frackin' mystery.
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Reply #3 - 02/07/13 at 11:20:25
 
you forgot to mention a few things, like lag compensation is what makes Darkside such a formidable choice. Half the time you didn't "get hit" by the special on your end and therefore where "lagslide" came into existence. Then Roadkill was probably one of the better vehicles when we "tamed" our games. You forgot to mention that he can hold his special too and can play from a distance, which many vehicles can't do. JYD is special too because it can also play a long game because his special is a bit silent.

Ill have to make a list soon.
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Reply #4 - 02/07/13 at 18:31:32
 
I can attest to Axel being the best vehicle. I once ran across Kirk Baum hosting his own open room with a score of 200 something kills and 0 deaths about 3 months after the game was released. Months before the TM vs Incog match.

I spent a good hour trying to actually kill him but he knew how to hide his shield in addition to having mastered the shockwave, crush, and Axels handling to the point that getting near him without a shield felt like an automatic hit. Granted i'm not the best player and i was still new. Axel is by no means unstoppable. He's just extremely tough in the hands of a skilled player. Especially if that skilled player makes full use of the level and all of it's pickups.

The 2 effective yet different specials Axel has gives him arguably the widest range of effectiveness. His ability to hide his shield by turning sideways can be heavily exploited by a very skilled player. I'm sure there is quite more to it that the experts would be aware of too.

I think the next 2 would be Darkside and Shadow simply because they are far more capable of combating lag. But if you aren't considering lag as a factor. Then i totally agree that Warthog can be more effective due to his damage, armor, and special regeneration.

It's been too long for me to make a seriously legitimate list. But i remember lots of people who weren't around for the start of TMBO who tend to underestimate Junkyard Dog. But truthfully he's another one of those vehicles who gets a bit of a boost from having better chances of hitting lagers, groups of players, and generally not missing his special attack.  If everything is running silky smooth you could get better results with Manslaughter as a skilled player.

I think Axel is one of the few cars who doesn't go up or down on the tier list by swapping scoring modes, levels, and the number of players. He doesn't have nearly as many exploitable or easily recognized weaknesses as any of the other vehicles.
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Reply #5 - 02/07/13 at 23:41:12
 
Mah Tier list - This is taking into account all known car tricks (RK jazz hands, YJ pops, etc), combos and dodging capabilities. Mostly based on team games, but imo 1on1 wouldnt change much other than push maybe JYD, and Shadow up a notch. And i even include tamed versions into the equation (including the elusive Tamed WH).

Plz note, the Demi God tier is very close... could easily go either way for some cars.

And some levels benefit some cars more than others, obviously.

-God Tier-
Axel

-Demi God Tier-
Manslaughter
Darkside
Axel (Tamed)
Junkyard Dog
Warthog

-Upper Tier-
Minion
Shadow
Crazy 8

-Mid Tier-
Crazy 8 (Tamed)
Spectre
Roadkill
Shadow (Tamed)

-Lower Mid Tier-
Outlaw
Brimstone
Sweet Tooth

-Bottom Feeder Tier-
Warthog (Tamed)
Yellowjacket
Outlaw (Tamed)
Mr Grimm


Axel needs no explanation. MS i have second place, dude can literally one shot almost any car, and with a ram/mega guns + rocks combo on the big dogs, its nighty night (and lowest special regen time in game). Also, MS has that fancy shield glitch that can occur occasionally which benefits him. MS uses a shield, but on other peoples end, they dont see a shield. Only car with that glitch, and it sucks balls to shoot a freeze directly at MS and figure you are gunna freeze him, but due to the shield glitch... he shielded it and rocks you in the face. Cry

Shadow and C8 are also glass cannons. JYD shits all over Shadow with his shorter regen time for junk bombs, and has the armor to soak up way more hits. C8 altho powerful, can get one shotted by just about any big weapon or any big dog in the game.

Outlaw is a ripe piece of shit. It was hilarious people thought this car was juice by any degree. Hes only good if you don't know to dodge his special, which a monkey could do. His handling and dodging capability are good though.

Sweet Tooth is a big dog, but is the exception to the rule that big dogs are the best. In 1v1 and 2v2, this car is absolute shit. Anyone can see his special coming a mile away, and with poor tracking ability it takes some degree of skill to land, which really means you have to setup freezes with gas cans/sats or get crafty with using his special when folks least expect it. In 3v3 and 4v4 the car gets a little better simply because there is more going on around enemies and they might have less of a chance to notice the cones coming.
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Reply #6 - 02/08/13 at 16:51:12
 
Minion has been getting nerfed one game after another. His TM2 version is still the best, because it's broken like it should be. So I have you guys come up with a strategy to beat Axel in 1vs1?
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Reply #7 - 02/08/13 at 18:56:45
 
Luis wrote on 02/08/13 at 16:51:12:
Minion has been getting nerfed one game after another. His TM2 version is still the best, because it's broken like it should be. So I have you guys come up with a strategy to beat Axel in 1vs1?


Yeah.  Surrender early.
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Reply #8 - 02/08/13 at 20:34:54
 
Not even a hit and run tactic?
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Reply #9 - 02/08/13 at 20:38:23
 
Luis wrote on 02/08/13 at 16:51:12:
Minion has been getting nerfed one game after another. His TM2 version is still the best, because it's broken like it should be. So I have you guys come up with a strategy to beat Axel in 1vs1?

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Sad but so true. You basically have to have luck on your side or kill yourself and accept him as your god.

His only real weakness is his armor... BUT, his secondary special which is the rolling ball DOUBLES as both a weapon and a shield.

The rolling ball special will mitigate and block 75-85% of dmg when you are in ball form. Meaning, with Axel you have a special that is a shield, and AA that can shield! Add to that his special regens every 30 seconds (really low!), he will more than likely be able to outlast any opponent at any time. Add on top of that the fact that his handling is amazing, and even better in ball form and you have a GOD unlike any other.

Plus his shockwave goes thru walls and had a blast radius the size of a nuke.

Onion only thinks Warthog is the best because I melt him with special + mega guns (any car will melt like butter) but up against Axel, WH is a push over.

So yep youre toast.  Grin
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Reply #10 - 02/09/13 at 14:46:29
 
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Reply #11 - 02/09/13 at 15:00:04
 
For starters, that was right when i returned to TMBO. I sucked arse. BIG TIME.

Face me now! Ive gotten loads better heh. So good, I made Venom quit because he thought i cheated Wink

And I didnt shockwave, silly Tongue
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Reply #12 - 02/09/13 at 15:19:42
 
haha sure...only if i get to use the same excuse Tongue
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Reply #13 - 02/09/13 at 15:25:41
 
maartyrr wrote on 02/09/13 at 15:19:42:
haha sure...only if i get to use the same excuse Tongue


I will gladly face your Spectre with God.

Just lemme know . . .
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Reply #14 - 02/09/13 at 15:27:13
 
God Tier
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Axel
Crazy 8
Manslaughter
Warthog

Upper Tier
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Spectre
Junkyard Dog
Shadow

Lower Tier
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Brimestone
Roadkill
Outlaw (tamed/untamed) even when he was juicing, it seemed like he was missing some punch
Minion
Sweet tooth

Bottom Tier
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Grimm
Yellow jacket

Cheap/annoying to deal with Tier
Darkside -the lag, teleporting, special sound only working some of the time makes this car the most annoying to fight against.
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