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Question: Do you support the death penalty?

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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #60 - 10/14/12 at 19:15:56
 
This is a tough argument.

I actually find executions revolting. Sure, there are monsters who deserve it, and sadly, there are people who are innocent that get screwed over, and that's truly shitty. What's disgusting to me is the idea that watching an execution is somehow cathartic for the victims still living. It's not real therapy. It doesn't bring loved ones back. It's meaningless, the greatest thing to come out of it is that it's one less prisoner that needs to be fed and caged. The pain of the living victims does not die with that execution.

So I guess I do not disapprove the death penalty for the truly guilty, but I do not really support the death penalty. Not much good comes from it.
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Reply #61 - 10/14/12 at 22:23:56
 
kodkilla wrote on 10/14/12 at 18:18:50:
Hellbent, would you still say no to execution if you knew that the person in question did in fact do it? What if his crimes were on levels of Luis Alfredo Garavito (a child murder, rapist, and torturer; who got sentenced 22 years; 139 confirmed victims, but suspected of killing over 400)?

Just wondering.


By killing the evil person you open the gates for innocent people to also be killed. Eventually you become a monster just like the person you were trying to get rid of.

The only excuse i could think of to execute a prisoner like that is if it were more expensive to imprison them. Or if you didn't have enough spare food to feed a prisoner. Otherwise all you truly accomplish is death.

Also Rape and Pedophilia are practically the same thing. i was thinking of comparing Rape to Abortion.
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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #62 - 10/15/12 at 16:43:48
 
I like how you derail a thread you made. You asume everyone is either falsly guilty or corrupt. You sound like a hypocrite.
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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #63 - 10/15/12 at 17:44:22
 
Mr.SLaM wrote on 10/15/12 at 16:43:48:
I like how you derail a thread you made. You asume everyone is either falsly guilty or corrupt. You sound like a hypocrite.



I don't understand your criticism.

I haven't derailed the post. I'm talking about the ethics of allowing the justice system to kill a person. The poll i left is clear.

It's correct to be concerned about people being falsely put on death row. Supporting the death penalty knowing that there is no justice system in the world possible of only punishing the guilty is irresponsible. It's that kind of thought that gets innocent people killed. I can bring up tons of instances of innocent people being executed for crimes they didn't commit due to forced confessions, falsified evidence, and even insane juries.

Speaking of hypocritical. How can you be against murderers and still kill a person who you have already captured? It isn't really changing anything if you already have the criminal in custody. I can understand if you witness a murder and splatter his brains on the street because he's trying to escape. But it's not about the death penalty for cases of vengeance. It would make more sense if you supported the enslavement and torture of murderers. Killing them is hypocritical, a waste of money, and an ineffective way of getting vengeance. I'm not even bringing the religious ramifications into this discussion. But needless to say if you are a Christian who supports the death penalty you are the worst kind of hypocrite.

Killing a prisoner costs so much money compared to jailing them. Unless you live in a country like China where there aren't any civil rights or federal laws making the process faster and cheaper. The whole process is horribly expensive and time consuming for what essentially is a vendetta.

Aren't you kind of pissed that so much money is being spent to kill people who are already in custody? Is it really worth the satisfaction of lukewarm state issued vengeance?

Personally if i had a choice between executing Charlie Manson or creating jobs for people by building more schools. I'm going to pick the schools. Charlie Manson being dead wouldn't do anything for anybody.
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Reply #64 - 10/15/12 at 19:15:54
 
Jeez Hellbent you are a bad person.


Anyways I think we should slowly vivisect and torture felons. It's obviously the humane and civilized thing to do, and would make us much better than the person we are torturing to death. We should also piss all over the corpse and have a pack of dogs hump it. Then we will blend the remains into a smooth paste, and feed it to our young, to remind them of what would happen if they went against our sane, normal, rational and civilized ways. An eye for an eye means I get lots of eyes and win and you lose the end.
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Reply #65 - 10/15/12 at 19:38:32
 
We should make killers mother preform the execution to get back at their family. It's not fair that the killers family isn't forced to watch and participate while the families of the victims suffer with no sweet vengeance to help them sleep at night.

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Reply #66 - 10/16/12 at 21:28:40
 
Yes! So many people in this world deserve to be fried.
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Reply #67 - 09/07/18 at 15:52:40
 
As a conservative, Yes. As a Catholic, No. It really sucks because it should be obvious to people what is right and wrong but as much as they deserve it, I don't think it's our right to judge someone's life away. However the other side of me would love it less taxes, less shitty people and not worrying about them breaking out of jail. I'd have to stick with no because my beliefs but there are definitely more benefits to it being legal from a non moral standpoint.
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Reply #68 - 04/17/19 at 19:12:33
 
Hellbent wrote on 10/15/12 at 17:44:22:
The poll i left is clear.

No, it's not. Deep down, your poll is

Do you support the fuckin murder of innocent people?
  • Hell yes, burn em all, sick the dogs on em
  • No, for we cannot know who is guilty
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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #69 - 04/18/19 at 12:34:29
 
On the fence on this one.

Innocent people can die either way.

The death penalty MIGHT make people think twice about committing murder.

On the other hand innocent people MIGHT be convicted and sent to their deaths.

The ultimate punishment should be reserved only for the most ultimate crimes.
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Reply #70 - 04/18/19 at 19:37:42
 
Thumpy wrote on 04/18/19 at 12:34:29:
Innocent people can die either way.
I have to agree with that bit, people are gonna die either way. Every situation is incredibly different, so we can only estimate the amount of innocents killed in each choice. To me, I think it'd cause a lot more suffering for the ones wrongly sentenced to death, than someone shot. Sure, the one shot is in pain physically, but the mental anguish of someone knowing they'll be put to death soon, and for no reason, family and friends questioning their innocence, it all must be awful. The amount of suffering weighs in to the value of that death imo. Also, tbh, the people in prison for crimes worthy of the death penalty are already in prison.

on another note, noone plans to get caught, if the death penalty was added, I doubt it would make much difference in crime rate
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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #71 - 04/21/19 at 10:12:29
 
Yes but only in extreme cases and when you can prove the accused did in fact 100% commit the crime they are accused of and in the cases of with a victim like mass murder, serial killings, child rape, mass rape, for war criminals, and genocide, and for real actual terrorists, and for war lords who use child soldiers.
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Reply #72 - 04/21/19 at 10:26:53
 
One more thing. It must be done sparingly and rarely. And if you are a spy for a foreign government i believe if you are caught you deserve trial and if found guilty you should be given the death penalty.
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