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Question: Do you support the death penalty?

Yes    
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Do you support the death penalty?
10/13/12 at 07:21:37
 
This is usually a fun debate that can be argued morally and with less evidence. Present your side with your vote or wait for more results to come in.

You can vote for Yes if you support it but not in it's current form. Be sure to explain how you believe it should be done.
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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #1 - 10/13/12 at 08:22:09
 
If you use the Badonk-a-donks, you should die by the Baonk-a-donks.

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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #2 - 10/13/12 at 13:10:34
 
Yes. Yes, I do.

But I believe more in letting the families of the victims have first crack at the convicted, though. If they end up killing the person, then oh well. That just saved the state time and money.
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Reply #3 - 10/13/12 at 16:28:59
 
Life in prison without parole. Considering the person was (probably) already going to spend 10-15 years on death row, another 40+ is only more punishment, versus death, which would end it. Not to mention, if the person offs themselves then so be it.

But the "let them have at 'em" argument is really more of a savage idea and would only degrade society. Not to mention, what if it's the wrong person?
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Re: Do you support the death penalty?
Reply #4 - 10/13/12 at 16:30:27
 
No, not fond of the idea.

As it is, isn't it up to the states? Leave it like that.
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Reply #5 - 10/13/12 at 17:20:50
 
Yes, but we need to come up with a country set guideline as to what qualifies receiving the death penalty. Same with every other crime now that I think about it, because the legal system we have in place now is kind of fucked. This guy kills an old lady while robbing her = death penalty, gang member kills a couple other gang members  = could be life or could be 15-20 years, rock star drunk behind the wheel and kills somebody = 30 days. Wth?
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Reply #6 - 10/13/12 at 17:58:01
 
I'll expand on this later but, seeing as I don't have to time, but I think the death penalty isn't given enough. If there going to put a scumbag in jail for life, then they should just kill him. allowing them to live wastes my tax money.
I think if your in prison for a varried amount of time with chances of getting out early, but you continue to misbehave, then you should be sentenced to death.
From a moral point of view, I'm not a firm believer in an afterlife so if these people want to waste there lives to useless violence then let them die, they don't deserve the gift of consciousness.
Just for shits n' giggles I'd have to 2 people up for the electric chair, I'd have one go off at random with one walking away to live another day. Maybe then they'd realize to turn there life around.
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Reply #7 - 10/13/12 at 20:11:54
 
I support the death penalty but they should bring back the electric chair and have it used on convicts who did something really serious like rape, murder, etc.

Also, let one of the victim's family members do the honors in pulling the switch.
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Reply #8 - 10/13/12 at 23:38:54
 
Some crimes are so heinous, so nasty, that only the death penalty BEGINS to make up for what they did.
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Reply #9 - 10/13/12 at 23:55:33
 
I think the Death Penalty is wrong for several reasons

First of all it's against the Bible and most religious teachings. Which contradicts the political stance that EVERY execution state holds. How can you spend so much tax payer money on killing a person and still consider your self a honest to god Christian?

My second point is really more then one point. But i'll just bunch it all into one spot. What about people wrongfully convicted and charged with the death penalty? Lawyers will falsify evidence and kill you in order to win a case. Imagine being the victim of a very intelligent lawyer who is only interested in winning cases? Or being the victim of an illegal interrogation where they beat you to the point of confessing? Or what if you are simply a victim of circumstance and while all the evidence points to you being the culprit you are totally innocent? Sure life in prison isn't exactly a joy. But most people would prefer it over being executed.

Need evidence that innocent people are given the death penilty?

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/The_Innocent_and_the_Death_Penalty.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution

Wayne Felker, a convicted rapist, is also claimed to have been an innocent victim of execution. Felker was a suspect in the disappearance of a Georgia (U.S.) woman in 1981 and was under police surveillance for two weeks prior to the woman's body being found. The autopsy was conducted by an unqualified technician, and the results were changed to show the death occurring before the surveillance had begun. After Felker's conviction, his lawyers presented testimony by forensics experts that the body could not have been dead more than three days when found. A stack of evidence was found hidden by the prosecution that hadn't been shared with the defence or presented in court, including DNA evidence that might have exonerated Felker or cast doubt on his guilt. There was also a signed confession by another suspect in the paperwork, but despite all this, Felker was executed in 1996. In 2000, his case was reopened in an attempt to make him the first executed person in the US to have DNA testing used to prove his innocence after his execution.[7]


Third and lastly it costs more money to execute someone then to put them in prison for life. Meaning the only reason to execute someone is out of spite. Vengeance is not justice. By supporting the death penalty you are supporting the murder of innocent people and guilty people.

The only benefit the death penalty offers is a deterrence for people who aren't rich or famous to rape/murder people. If you happen to be popular you are completely immune to the death penalty. Hell you are almost immune to life in prison too. You might get 10 years for murdering someone then get out in 6 for good behavior if you are famous. If you are just some jerk they'll kill you like a barnyard chicken.



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Reply #10 - 10/14/12 at 00:18:31
 
No.  These people are offensive.  You should be upset.
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Reply #11 - 10/14/12 at 00:37:57
 
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No.  These people are offensive.  You should be upset.  


I said nothing about not being upset that evil people exist in the world. I am calling you out on judging people who for all you actually know could be innocent. Like that convicted rapist who got murdered by the state for a rape/murder convicted by another person.

You are partially responsible for promoting the line of thought that anyone convicted of a horrible crime should be punished in the worst way possible. It excites you to have a person killed so much you forget that the courts make mistakes. Either that or you consider the innocent deaths collateral damage and believe they died to serve justice or some insane bullshit.

I don't think killing a murderer really does anything. Other then potentially giving an innocent person the ultimate punishment. All because of your misguided bloodlust.

Stop for a second and think about it. Is the state truly capable of always executing guilty people 100% of the time? How do you justify people being executed for crimes which they did not commit?

It doesn't matter if some people deserve to die. The fact executions happen at all is wrong. You may feel above these people but everybody makes mistakes. Both in life and when handing out justice.

I'm sure the mentally retarded people they execute are totally aware they are being punished before they die haha. "WHY ARE YOU BUCKLING ME IN? IS THIS A RIDE! YAY SIX FLAGS YAY SIX FLAGS!" *BBBBBZZZZZZZTTTTTT*. What a clever way to punish the retarded murderer. There is certainly no irony or hypocrisy going on there.
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Reply #12 - 10/14/12 at 01:01:54
 
Hellbent wrote on 10/14/12 at 00:37:57:
I said nothing about not being upset that evil people exist in the world. I am calling you out on judging people who for all you actually know could be innocent. .


You asked me if I supported the death penalty.  I do, for guilty people.  You didn't ask for a whole lot more detail.  
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Reply #13 - 10/14/12 at 01:12:31
 
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You asked me if I supported the death penalty.  I do, for guilty people.  You didn't ask for a whole lot more detail.  


I brought up a case of a person judged as guilty being found innocent years later. You are arguing that it's okay to murder the guilty.

Totally unbatman.
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Reply #14 - 10/14/12 at 01:18:55
 
Hellbent wrote on 10/14/12 at 01:12:31:
I brought up a case of a person judged as guilty being found innocent years later. You are arguing that it's okay to murder the guilty.

Totally unbatman.



Murder by definition is the killing of someone who has violated laws.  So therefore executing a murderer is not murdering someone. 

Now, I'm saying it's okay to put to death someone who actually did it.  Not someone who is found guilty but is innocent, that sucks.
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