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Jaffe leaves ESP. This is Upsetting.
02/07/12 at 13:11:38
 
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Reply #1 - 02/07/12 at 13:40:11
 
No need to be upset. He just addressed this for anyone interested btw.

Link to where he addresses it

Now back to lurking.

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Reply #2 - 02/07/12 at 14:31:50
 
It is still rather upsetting since it implies that the planets will have to align again before we get another Twisted Metal in the future.
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Reply #3 - 02/07/12 at 14:50:22
 
Oh this is sad, I wish Jaffe and the whole team best of luck.
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Reply #4 - 02/07/12 at 15:04:13
 
I wish the best for Dave and ESP. It's not really upsetting since I can see where he is coming from.

As long as the man is crunching the designs out for some type of game I'm good. Wonder what ESP will be making.
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Reply #5 - 02/07/12 at 15:15:02
 
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I wish the best for Dave and ESP. It's not really upsetting since I can see where he is coming from.

As long as the man is crunching the designs out for some type of game I'm good. Wonder what ESP will be making.


I hope they work on a new War Of The Monsters, I absolutely loved that game and i think it would be a blast online 'Fingers Crossed'
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Reply #6 - 02/07/12 at 18:57:01
 
Its upsetting as their work based on TM is really good. But its always been Jaffe's way to leave TM then go back. So I wasn't surprised. I hope ESP has fun making smaller games, and I think that they do very well with mechanics based type stuff, seeing as that's what TM seems to be based off.

As for Jaffe I would like to see him do something big budget again, like God of War. But I just don't think Jaffe seems very passionate about huge titles at the moment. I just hope he doesn't make a calling all cars type game where its short on content despite a good mechanic. But based off of what Jaffe has said he seems to have learned his lesson with Calling All Cars.

I really hope Jaffe and or ESP come back to TM. But its good for them to leave for a little while and just do patch work along with DLC for TM while working on other projects.
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Reply #7 - 02/07/12 at 20:44:00
 
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I hope they work on a new War Of The Monsters, I absolutely loved that game and i think it would be a blast online 'Fingers Crossed'

QFT, I loved that game! Raptros FTW!
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Reply #8 - 02/07/12 at 23:12:41
 
This really isn't that surprising at all. If you've been listening to questions being asked of Jaffe and ESP as to "what is next" for the last year then you would have predicted this already.

I think its a huge waste of talent for all involved to be making shitty mobile games when they could be creating so much more, even if it was downloadable titles. On the ESP side of things without Jaffe, this just seems more like a business driven decision to try and stay afloat based on the size of the staff than people actually making a game they care about. Jaffe and ESP are both probably going to make mediocre mobile games and they won't sell so hot, and then they will come right back to making great console games like TM.

This isn't meant to sound like they can't make a good casual game, but their audience, which will be the only ones really interested in the games they make after TM, won't be enough to support such an in devour in my opinion. The fact that ESP will be making mobile games going forward means I already have no interest in whats in store for the next 5 years or so until yet another studio is formed based on Scott and other TM vets that will produce (hopefully) the next TM game.

But, this is what happens in today's gaming biz. It costs way too much to make a fucking great game and so many talented people are forced into producing indie and mobile games just to keep a job while maintaining the ability to express their creativity.
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Reply #9 - 02/07/12 at 23:24:38
 
Kinda sucks. I was really hoping to see a good line of tms again. Every 3 years a new TM. Wishful thinking though. Sad sad day. It just bolsters my thoughts on a nearly dead genre. Someday car combat will just be history like beat em ups. Or side scrolling ninja turtles. Ugh. I really hate fps games.
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Reply #10 - 02/07/12 at 23:28:39
 
isnt he under contract to make 2 more games exclusively for ps3?
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Reply #11 - 02/07/12 at 23:56:23
 
XIZOR wrote on 02/07/12 at 23:12:41:
This really isn't that surprising at all. If you've been listening to questions being asked of Jaffe and ESP as to "what is next" for the last year then you would have predicted this already.

I think its a huge waste of talent for all involved to be making shitty mobile games when they could be creating so much more, even if it was downloadable titles. On the ESP side of things without Jaffe, this just seems more like a business driven decision to try and stay afloat based on the size of the staff than people actually making a game they care about. Jaffe and ESP are both probably going to make mediocre mobile games and they won't sell so hot, and then they will come right back to making great console games like TM.

This isn't meant to sound like they can't make a good casual game, but their audience, which will be the only ones really interested in the games they make after TM, won't be enough to support such an in devour in my opinion. The fact that ESP will be making mobile games going forward means I already have no interest in whats in store for the next 5 years or so until yet another studio is formed based on Scott and other TM vets that will produce (hopefully) the next TM game.

But, this is what happens in today's gaming biz. It costs way too much to make a fucking great game and so many talented people are forced into producing indie and mobile games just to keep a job while maintaining the ability to express their creativity.



How many times do you think they can sell you a reskinned Oblivion until the next console generation Xizor? Aren't you a little tired of digital fetch yet?

Or perhaps they can make a Gears of War prequel to sell next to Halo 4. It's not a good shooter game if you aren't hiding around a corner for 3 minutes like a pussy.
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Reply #12 - 02/08/12 at 09:02:37
 
Wait, ESP made Oblivion, Halo AND Gears of War? I didn't know this.
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Reply #13 - 02/08/12 at 09:06:00
 
XIZOR wrote on 02/08/12 at 09:02:37:
Wait, ESP made Oblivion, Halo AND Gears of War? I didn't know this.


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Reply #14 - 02/08/12 at 12:38:49
 
Like I mentioned before, he has stated before that this was coming.. well, the part about going in a different direction with his own projects. I just didn't expect him to straight up leave ESP. I'm thinking that IF we do see another Twisted Metal, it won't be until well into the next gen consoles (at least 5 or 6 years from now), and I'm sure ESP will be long dead and that Jaffe/Scott duo will have formed yet another studio.

However, I do have confidence in them that they'll stick with the current game until it's completely (relatively) bug-free, patched up, and DLC is dispensed if asked of them. We might as well enjoy it now, and for what it is.. I have a feeling this might be the end of the road for Twisted Metal.
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