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Reply #45 - 05/07/11 at 20:29:14
 
man, y'all (not roadie or venom) are taking the jyd thing to the extreme ... all they said was have a little honor with the special and not junk bomb someone 5 times in a row.  throw some distance shots in there that take a little more skill. 

the point with all this was to make the game more fun/fair for all involved, and not police the game as much.  fact is that in our team games roadie (or just about anyone else) could hunt me down first every game and make my life hell, but he doesn't because it would completely ruin the game for me and probably my teammate as well.  that doesn't mean he avoids me, but if given the choice he's going to battle with venom instead of taking the easy way out.  all anyone is asking in this is not to be outright dicks, which i would think we could all manage.  so chill out on the jyd issue and play to have friendly, fun competition
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Reply #46 - 05/07/11 at 20:43:12
 
No ones getting out of control about the JYD issue, haha. I played strictly by the old rules so I have no problems doing what's expected in the form of honor and just plain old not being a dick (you of all people know that Joe), but this JYD thing is all new to me. I guess because he always seemed like an underdog in the net damage games and was a favorite of mine I care a little more. I didn't ever really get to heavy into the LMS games that everyone played towards the end of the TMBO lifespan so all this is news to me.

Again, I'm in agreement with everyone in this thread 100%. Play however, unjuiced, just don't intentionally be an asshole. Not hard to do or understand.
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Reply #47 - 05/07/11 at 21:08:35
 
Joe, no one is up in arms about JYD.

I was told last night not to play him, over a dumb mistake. I was only questioning why, further. I wasn't being OP, and I wasn't intending on being cheep. 2 junk bombs happened on accident.

I just wanted to clarify, because I wasn't going to stop playing a vehicle I like. I still think I'm better with Spectre.
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Reply #48 - 05/08/11 at 01:27:57
 
wait, what? there are tactics that make you an asshole?
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Reply #49 - 05/08/11 at 10:49:27
 
I guess. I mean, Joe got the idea of what I was trying to convey.

I stated before I'm not gonna Sp someone repeatevly. Not unless it's done to me. I play JYD ONCE last night and got assraped. I know I'm on the other team. I know he's a powerfull car and you all gonna try and take it out 1st but fuck man. I'd like to play a little. I'm on 3 deaths and everyone else is on 1 or 0. Even in JYD....am I really that much of a threat?  

I'm not expecting to be treated with kid gloves here. If I have 3 JYD's I would've bombed 3 different people. That's how I play. I won't double/triple bomb someone unless I have that tactic used against me.

So yea...that's why I bounced last night. Not even the sinple fact I was drunk. That actually didn't matter. You can call me butthurt or whatever. Funny how that was the only match of the night where I didn't have fun. I didn't see Kilrgrn get that treatment when she was JYD.

Looks like JYD is out of my line up, if that's what's gonna happen to me when I play as him, and WAY the fuck out the way when he's in game. Even Shadow now too.  

I'll abide by whatever we agree with but doin't expect me not to say anything if I feel I was wronged in some way.    
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Reply #50 - 05/08/11 at 11:29:19
 
Oh good hell.  

Hey! Here's a tip!  Don't play a big car drunk!
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Reply #51 - 05/08/11 at 11:58:51
 
Sadly, that had nothing to do with it. Wish it did, then I could say I'm being irrational about it all. Or being a biligerant drunk.

I played as DS and MS last night and didn't have that issue. Same amount of alcohol in my blood against pretty much the same people.

Like I said, it was the only game of the night I didn't have fun. So I left.  
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Reply #52 - 05/08/11 at 12:33:47
 
You're just plain going to play better if you aren't drunk.  I also think leaving because you have one bad game is pretty lame.

All that aside for a minute, lets look at your "honor code" because ironically that may be one of the reasons your Junkdog got raped.  

Little cars will always be attracted to big cars.  Why?  Because they're fast and big cars are slow.  It seems like an easy target.  That is, until Minion drops a 100 point blow torch on you.  

Or Warthog drops a 120 point blow torch on you.

Or Manslaughter drops 120 point rock on you.

Or Darkside does a 90 point t-slide on you.

Or Sweetooth rams a 50 point cone up your butt.  

Moments like that are what keep little cars from going full out aggressive on a big car.  They've learned that sometimes it has disastrous results.  Sometimes they blow up in just one hit.  Therefore, they're just a little bit more cautious approaching a big car because it only takes ONE good special hit.  Just ONE.

Oh, but wait, Junkyard Dog's special only does 25 points!  That isn't anything!  There's no way to blow up with just one hit!  That's less than Brimstone's special, less than Roadkill's, less than Shadow's, less than Grimm's, less than Outlaw's . . . it's even less than Spectre's.

So why not just gang bang Junkyard Dog? He's an EASY target.

Ah, but Junk Dog has an amazing special regen.  Second fastest in the game (30 seconds)!  If he manages to stay alive for just a minute and a half, he is suddenly a small car's most FEARED opponent.  A Spectre player who faces a good Junkdog player might be confidant at first, until suddenly she has 75% of her health gone.  Then it's time to GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE - and often even then it's too late as that final bomb lands and Spec gets blown away.   (Just as she should -the little bitch)

Except that will never happen when Spectre faces your Junkdog.  She will lose a measly 25 points.  She'll realize things aren't so bad, and gang bang your slow butt.  You'll have more that you could do to her (two more bombs in fact) but you won't because you think you're being honorable.  

Then you'll die.  Then you'll quit out because you're mad and we'll lose a player.  

Nerfing cars in the name of honor doesn't make the game more fun.  It just makes some cars suck.  
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Reply #53 - 05/08/11 at 12:44:48
 
I'm just going to reiterate my thoughts since bad blood is already starting to rise to the top. The only things I'm abiding by are no healths and no ENV. If I pick juice, I'm juicing. I will make it known in chat too. I played the game for far too many years limiting shit, picking the same three cars and there's no reason to continue to play it that way if we're trying to have fun. I'm sorry if this attitude is going to ruin someone's fun, but just do it back to me.

TMPS3 is around the corner and that's the next game we should focus on playing and having fun with. TMBO had its day, so please, lets enjoy Black for what it is and not what it was.
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Reply #54 - 05/08/11 at 14:47:14
 
SynthR wrote on 05/08/11 at 12:44:48:
I'm just going to reiterate my thoughts since bad blood is already starting to rise to the top. The only things I'm abiding by are no healths and no ENV. If I pick juice, I'm juicing. I will make it known in chat too. I played the game for far too many years limiting shit, picking the same three cars and there's no reason to continue to play it that way if we're trying to have fun. I'm sorry if this attitude is going to ruin someone's fun, but just do it back to me.

TMPS3 is around the corner and that's the next game we should focus on playing and having fun with. TMBO had its day, so please, lets enjoy Black for what it is and not what it was.


No one will be upset lol trust me. We have been doing it all along. I choose my car state my intent and tell someone to mirror/match it. The only time I refrain from choosing too much power is when im on a team of 4 in the 3v4 matches. Then I understand a bit of restraint.

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Was this match where you were JYD a 3v4 Magnum? I honestly cannot remember exactly which level setup we had but I do recall you being JYD.

While I totally see why you would be upset Magnum, I can say honestly I don't pick on anyone in particular but when I play as big cars I notice I tend to get more than a handsome share of people's attention. I honestly don't think people went for you just because you were JYD. Sometimes certain people get raped hard.

Last night Dark played possibly the worst game in his career (sorry dark lol using u as example).. After you left we played a game where dark got 82 points of dmg, after 5 lives.
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Reply #55 - 05/08/11 at 16:32:07
 
RoaDiE wrote on 05/08/11 at 14:47:14:
No one will be upset lol trust me. We have been doing it all along. I choose my car state my intent and tell someone to mirror/match it. The only time I refrain from choosing too much power is when im on a team of 4 in the 3v4 matches. Then I understand a bit of restraint.

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Was this match where you were JYD a 3v4 Magnum? I honestly cannot remember exactly which level setup we had but I do recall you being JYD.

While I totally see why you would be upset Magnum, I can say honestly I don't pick on anyone in particular but when I play as big cars I notice I tend to get more than a handsome share of people's attention. I honestly don't think people went for you just because you were JYD. Sometimes certain people get raped hard.

Last night Dark played possibly the worst game in his career (sorry dark lol using u as example).. After you left we played a game where dark got 82 points of dmg, after 5 lives.



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Reply #56 - 05/08/11 at 19:06:40
 
There has been one game were I was taken out almost immediately, but I think that was my own fault for not knowing how to use Shadow. It also happened to me the second time I used JYD.

Mags, I honestly don't think anyone was picking on you. Even with big dogs you have to learn to pick your battles. JYD seems to have the least armour of the larger vehicles, I've had the shit kicked out of me before when I was him.


SynthR, blood hasn't risen, there has just been some minor discrepancies. When we're actually playing, no one really gets butthurt. My analpain was escalated by a bad phone call mid-match but then I apologized the next day, as well as I was apologized to.


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Reply #57 - 05/09/11 at 07:18:00
 
It's not bad blood. It just a POV. Some see it one way, some see it another.

I know big boys attract attention. It's just that one game at the end of the night I was like WTF? I was planning on retiring out anyway, but stayed for one more.

Anyway, I'm getting how this is going, and it's fine. I'll just have to deal with it. I was just not expecting getting Shadow bombed more than twice in a row. I figured if I didn't do it to others, they wouldn't do it to me.

Since that misunderstanding is out the way, I guess if I 5 times Sp someone, they won't be upset. Just expect it to happen right back in same game or next match.
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Reply #58 - 05/09/11 at 22:21:48
 
I'd expect that anyway..
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Reply #59 - 05/09/11 at 22:46:43
 
Okay folks.  I SHADOW BOMBED HIM TWICE.  Now that THAT is in the open.

I wasn't deceitful either.  I said at the front of this post I'm cool with such things.  I'm just as cool having them done back.  So why would it surprise anyone in game?  I'm okay with ALL moves.  Period.  Play your best and so will I.   

I don't want any bad blood on this either.  Quite frankly, I had my time with TMBO.  It ended on a high high high note for me.  There was no pissing and moaning the last three months, just good fun, and then it was gone.  That was four years ago.  I moved on.   

I personally am not interested in playing a game where everyone is getting pissed off at moves the other player does (and oddly enough, it's always the moves that kill YOU), but if that's what everyone else wants to do just let me know. 

I'm happy to wait for the next Twisted Metal.
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