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Kilrahi
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Reply #675 - 07/31/11 at 21:37:11
 
Durock 01 wrote on 07/31/11 at 21:33:20:
Ok I'm not going to down anyone for not wanting an m rating. But with that said no one is forcing you to buy this game. Pretty much everyone here saw the m rating coming for months I know I did. This is twisted metal the sick twisted stories blood and gore goes along with the game. So if your not going to bye the game by all means complain away. Complain that you cant buy it now because of your moral objections. I could respect that and id feel for you. But if you are buying the game sit down shut up and enjoy it your choosing to indulge in it when you don't have to.


That's a neat reply, except it's pretty much pointless and has little or no application to what it was I said.

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Reply #676 - 07/31/11 at 21:39:11
 
It wasn't just aimed at you and yes some of it does apply to your post.
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Reply #677 - 07/31/11 at 21:39:19
 
Durock 01 wrote on 07/31/11 at 21:33:20:
Ok I'm not going to down anyone for not wanting an m rating. But with that said no one is forcing you to buy this game. Pretty much everyone here saw the m rating coming for months I know I did. This is twisted metal the sick twisted stories blood and gore goes along with the game. So if your not going to bye the game by all means complain away. Complain that you cant buy it now because of your moral objections. I could respect that and id feel for you. But if you are buying the game sit down shut up and enjoy it your choosing to indulge in it when you don't have to.



No one on here has stated that they're not going to buy the game. As far as I'm aware, Kilrahi is the only one who has said that he is disappointed in the rating, because he wanted to share it with his children. He's allowed to complain about it, he was looking forward to something; don't tell him to shut up. The topic was about the M rating, he can complain about the rating all he wants AND  "Bye the game".

Durock, we've been fairly nice to you. Don't start a shit war now.
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Reply #678 - 07/31/11 at 21:47:13
 
Honestly, I would have preferred the T rating. I mean, so many games today are M. Jesus christ, every game is M nowadays. I've gotten almost a little tired of gore. I'm not saying I don't like blowing peeps up in Fallout or that Farcry 3 doesn't look badass, but I just want good clean fun without a bunch of gore unnecessarily tacked on. If a game can do gore good than by all means they should do gore, but if it is just tacked on (ie. the gore from a headshot in TMPS3) then... eh.
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Reply #679 - 07/31/11 at 21:47:48
 
Really you speak for everyone here huh. Your the same person that told me I was an ignorant ass when you thought I was refering to something bad about Europe when in fact I'm a citizen of the uk and the us. You've been nothing but spiteful to me since day one so don't feed me a line of bs like you have done any favors for me.  My point through my post was it is what it is and it isn't going to change. I don't think if I had kids I'd let them play any twisted metal game honestly. I agree with jaffe twisted metal is ment to be an m rated game. And I don't think he wants "gore for the sake of gore"
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Reply #680 - 07/31/11 at 21:50:32
 
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Reply #681 - 07/31/11 at 21:53:30
 
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Reply #682 - 07/31/11 at 22:00:29
 
Durock 01 wrote on 07/31/11 at 21:47:48:
Really you speak for everyone here huh. Your the same person that told me I was an ignorant ass when you thought I was refering to something bad about Europe when in fact I'm a citizen of the uk and the us. You've been nothing but spiteful to me since day one so don't feed me a line of bs like you have done any favors for me.  My point through my post was it is what it is and it isn't going to change. I don't think if I had kids I'd let them play any twisted metal game honestly.



And here we go.

Arch, it wasn't me this time. Please don't get mad at me.


Durock, your statement about paying off to live in America was in fact an ignorant statement. I didn't continue to argue on the point because Arch asked us all nicely to get along on here, but I'm doing it now.

You're basically stating that living in America is better because we get more blood than they do. The UK does things how they want because of cultural, economical and society based differences. It is wrong for you to judge them based off of their preference. Sure, it might suck that they use a bit of censorship over there, but it's their choice, and saying it pays off to live in America, like we're better than them because of it, it a steaming pile of crap.

You know, they can show penis's and vagina's on TV's over in the UK? So it pays to live in the UK because we can't have that kind of thing on daytime television here?

If you disagree, you're not only ignorant, but a giant hypocrite.
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Reply #683 - 07/31/11 at 23:54:31
 
Durock 01 wrote on 07/31/11 at 21:33:20:
Ok I'm not going to down anyone for not wanting an m rating. But with that said no one is forcing you to buy this game. Pretty much everyone here saw the m rating coming for months I know I did. This is twisted metal the sick twisted stories blood and gore goes along with the game


I don't know how people can say they saw this M-Rating coming for months.  Jaffe was aiming for a T, and thought they were going to make it until they sent more recent live-action video.  I'm sure it can be a fine line between a T and a M, as ESP tried to test the edge of that boundary.  However, to say you KNEW this was going to happen long ago implies you are more in tune with the process and the material being evaluated than Jaffe himself.

And to say "this is twisted metal the sick twisted stories blood and gore goes along with the game" is understandable, and I agree with you to a degree, but the only previous TM game to have the M-rating was Black.  All other TM's have been T, where much of the violence was implied.

I understand what Kilrahi is saying too, because I have younger kids and while I would like to share the new Twisted with them, the nature of the stories prohibit me.  Although I probably wouldn't let them see the T-Rated live-action scenes anyway, so SP was likely not an option in the first place.  I should be able to let them play offline with me though.

Even Jaffe said he wouldn't let his kids watch that stuff, haha.  Every parent and kid is different, so I see no need to harshly judge someone else's parenting skills.  

I'm with Obliverate on the gore aspect. I enjoy blood and gore, but it can be overdone when considering the context of the material.  I can live with a T or a M either way, I just want the stories to be the main focus and the gore to accompany it where appropriate.

I think the new Mortal Kombat is a good example of this from a personal standpoint.  Now I haven't played it yet, but I've seen a ton of videos and the game looks fantastic.  I remember playing MK 20 years ago in the arcades and I loved it.  It was more edgy than other fighters, with enough gore to make it entertaining.  The gore in the new MK, well it doesn't bother me but there is part of me that thinks it is a little excessive; to the point where the fatalities don't interest me as much or leave anything to the imagination.  Only so much dismemberment I can see before I get kinda bored of it.
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Reply #684 - 08/01/11 at 01:30:55
 
Everyone just chill pls.

My computer is giving me a headache so am havin trouble with typing.
Why not open a post for all of this on brawl?
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Reply #685 - 08/01/11 at 01:36:44
 
Durcock doesn't go to brawl.

It ended badly last time. But it was fun.
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Reply #686 - 08/01/11 at 03:44:25
 
The fact that it is now an 'M' rating doesn't imply just disurbing visuals people. It can also predicate a higher level of gaming complexity. i always looked at playing TM like operating a byzantine, layered machine, the 'M' rating invokes that for us. Think positive
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Reply #687 - 08/01/11 at 08:49:10
 
"You're basically stating that living in America is better because we get more blood than they do."

No that is nothing to do with what I'm saying honestly. I'm not a huge supporter of gore and violence and I can agree that it's over done sometimes. I just say "it pays to live in the USA" because I have the freedom of choice. It shouldn't be up to the government of what I can watch or not. You don't have to buy the game or you can. I have no problem with ESP putting a filter on the game like there was in gears. At least then you have the choice still. That was my only point. I am sorry if it was taken wrong. Ive been to the uk many many times over the years to visit family and I've lived there for a time. I think I have a unique perspective on this issue on seeing sides.

With that said I still dont twisted metal should be anything less then a m rating. Other games i do see gore for the sake of gore and I'm
Not for that. it can take away from the game experience. But as far as a head exsploding from a sniper shot hell ya I'm for that. Hate to tell you a real 50 cal sniper rifle does much more damage then that.
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Reply #688 - 08/01/11 at 12:00:19
 
A melliflous argument Durock, well put. The filter switch sounds like a swell resolution and think the team at ESP should probably concentrate on those types of options. It would make for a pleasing accomodation, even if one doesn't plan to use it.
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Reply #689 - 08/01/11 at 14:27:38
 
Zerathustra wrote on 08/01/11 at 03:44:25:
The fact that it is now an 'M' rating doesn't imply just disurbing visuals people. It can also predicate a higher level of gaming complexity. i always looked at playing TM like operating a byzantine, layered machine, the 'M' rating invokes that for us. Think positive


Okay, I REALLY hate to reply because I would much rather let this string of incredibly stupid thinking just die, but the above is a new level of stupid.

Maturity level of a game is in no way related to game mechanics, and game mechancis are what makes a game complex, and is the most important factor for fun. 

Honestly OMFG.  It's this line of stupid thought that is making the mainstream gaming machine so tired and stupid these days.  They keep making the game's M rated first person shooters and it's getting boring.
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