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Dude, get over it
06/22/10 at 00:04:55
 
Found this interview on Joystiq. If any of you recall, Joystiq is the site that emailed Jaffe and was lied to. But the beginning of this interview is just stupid. Go as far as to call it a "harassment." Come on, stop being dicks about it.

I think the quote from Jaffe somes it up though. To the press,  "You know what, guys? I don't owe you shit. I owe the gamers shit. I owe them entertainment."

A good read though.
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Reply #1 - 06/22/10 at 00:44:32
 
I found it to be a great read and honestly, they're entitled to be peeved at being lied to ... I agree with with what Jaffe said, and I think everything was cool afterwards.  The thing to keep in mind is people read that site and take what they're reading to be truthful, they owe the readers of the site an explanation of why they gave false information and that they're not in the habit of doing that.

Great article, Jaffe is the man, and I thought joystiq handled their readers and the interview very well
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Reply #2 - 06/22/10 at 00:54:17
 
You know, I don't think it's really a necessity to consciously reinforce the meta-game aspects of TM.  It all translates online pretty flawlessly anyway---at least for TMBO and TM2 it did.  You instantly feel that old mindgame as WH vs. runaway Spectre, for instance.

But nevertheless, necessary or not, I'm all for upped HP, despite my insistence on playing License To Kill and Q3A Instagib exclusively.

And as an afterthought, yes, I know I just typed that shit in the wrong thread.
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Reply #3 - 06/22/10 at 01:06:05
 
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To me giving fans an actual genuine E3 surprise was more valuable to me than sort of being totally honest when people ask me questions.


This sentence here actually shows how much this Man cares about the fans and the Twisted Metal Community. If only some more developers would think the same way like David, then this world wouldn't be so full of crap Games.

Also about the people that were upset about the lie: Holy crap man! It wasn't a lie to hurt anyone, it was actually done so that people would be happier. Lie's are not always bad, but looks like those little buddies got their feelings hurt.

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Reply #4 - 06/22/10 at 02:11:24
 
That interview was just oozing with love to his fans and gamers alike. That's whats always been so great about Jaffe to begin with. I'm so glad he kept the E3 reveal a surprise because like he said, that IS what used to make E3 so great and that has been lost the last few years. Nothing is really shocking and new.

I think the part that blew my mind the most was when he said something to the affect of because they concentrated so much on the levels, characters, and story in TMB that he felt the gameplay suffered a little. I never thought that but its odd to hear him say that. It's reassuring how many times he said they are all about improving the gameplay mechanics this time around.

I feel like Jaffes lover right now. He just keeps whispering those sweet little nothings in my ear that I want to hear.
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Reply #5 - 06/22/10 at 02:47:59
 
XIZOR wrote on 06/22/10 at 02:11:24:
I think the part that blew my mind the most was when he said something to the affect of because they concentrated so much on the levels, characters, and story in TMB that he felt the gameplay suffered a little. I never thought that but its odd to hear him say that. It's reassuring how many times he said they are all about improving the gameplay mechanics this time around.

Jaffe is a perfectionist when it comes to his games. Watch some of the dev diaries from his past projects and you can tell. The fact that alot of us think the gameplay in Black is awesome yet he thought it suffered just shows how badly he wants this next game to be great.
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Reply #6 - 06/22/10 at 02:56:08
 
I love the fact that this new Tm is a PS3 exclusive.  Not because I hate XBOX, but because they don't have to worry about spending crucial resources on developing for both.  They can concentrate on making it the best, most optimized TM game possible.

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So we didn't know 'til yesterday if there were going to be enough fans who cared that we had sort of stayed true to aspects of the vision but still in a lot of the modes reinvented it and stuff. So right now we're walking around thrilled that we still have people who respond to what we're doing. We may never reach the heights we did with the old school Twisted Metals, but we're making the people who love those kinda games happy it seems and we're happy about that.


Definitely thrilled Jaffe!

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We never got the awards and stuff. But for Twisted, we always felt good about that. 'Cuz it always feels like, Twisted feels like a bar band to us. Or a garage band that has a lot of heart and soul. And we're real loyal to our fans. We may never be The Beatles, but we don't really want to be The Beatles with this game.


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Reply #7 - 06/22/10 at 03:09:32
 
Jaffe and team were just learning how the PS2 works and I think TM:B were their first game on the PS2 if I'm not wrong. Personally, I think they did awesome with it, one of the best games ever.

It is actually surprising to me that Jaffe didn't think the gameplay weren't what he actually envisioned it to be. But then, the more I think about it, the more it makes sense. I remember from his old TM2 interview, if I remember correctly, he mentioned that the finished version of TM2 weren't his actual vision on Twisted Metal itself. It was all they could design, develop, and finish due to the limits of PS1.

Apparently, Jaffe was thinking light-years ahead and wanted to put in things he wanted to have in TM2. He could have had that chance in "TM3-4" but no. So that gave him the opportunity to reboot the series and bring it back to its former glory with Black.

NOW, with PS3's capabilities and design/gameplay potentials, Jaffe finally can do what he wants with Twisted Metal. I'm just glad Jaffe truly cares about Twisted Metal and the fans alike. That's what makes him a lot different from the other regular video game designers. He DO listen and care.

Like Seventy_X_Seven said, he is a perfectionist. I've already had faith in him since the TMPS3 hidden message in TM:HO PS2 port.
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Reply #8 - 06/22/10 at 04:05:31
 
I'm sure he's just like any other artist in that what he creates is never up to his own personal standards. That's normal though and hes said as much in a few interviews I've read with him lately, especially the one that was in last months issue of EGM.

That is the inherent problem with making games though. At least for anyone that has grand visions of doing things never seen before. The current platforms always have a cap on what is possible and capable. Just like when he was talking in that Giantbomb demonstration, he said that even now there is only so much they can do due to RAM limitations on the PS3 and being that the cars are going so fast that they have to stream things a lot quicker than most games. I'm sure 5-10 years from now he'll be talking about how Twisted Metal on the PS3 wasn't what he wanted it to be either. Typical self critical artistry though.
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Reply #9 - 06/22/10 at 04:11:38
 
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I'm sure 5-10 years from now he'll be talking about how Twisted Metal on the PS3 wasn't what he wanted it to be either.


While he is making a new Twisted Metal for PS 5 wich grants us the ability to blow ourselve's up in a Virtual Reality.

That'd be sweet. o_O
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Reply #10 - 06/22/10 at 04:20:05
 
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While he is making a new Twisted Metal for PS 5 wich grants us the ability to blow ourselve's up in a Virtual Reality.

That'd be sweet. o_O


Why the hell did that remind me of the movie Johnny Mnemonic? Eh.

Of course, the game designers always like to raise the bar on themselves and to outdo themselves and deliver the best game than the previous. I'd assume that's the natural thing to do as a game designer when you're given the proper tools and flexibility.
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Reply #11 - 06/22/10 at 04:52:34
 
even if he put out games that were under-par, what gets me is that he keeps us, the gamers, first in mind. I dont know how much he banks, but it doesnt even seem like it phases him regardless. the more I read his stuff, the more of a good-hearted guy he comes off as. I'd def love to meet him, if nothing else, to let him know how much I love his games. he's probably the type that never gets tired of hearing that his work is appreciated, instead of getting ego and KNOWING it is
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Reply #12 - 06/22/10 at 09:33:16
 
I love that he told a little lie so that we could have Christmas in June.
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Reply #13 - 06/22/10 at 10:38:49
 
Seventy_X_Seven wrote on 06/22/10 at 02:47:59:
Jaffe is a perfectionist when it comes to his games. Watch some of the dev diaries from his past projects and you can tell. The fact that alot of us think the gameplay in Black is awesome yet he thought it suffered just shows how badly he wants this next game to be great.

Anytime someone can sit down and say to themselves they are at the top of their game, it is frankly time to move on. Thankfully, Jaffe is hard on himself and is constantly seeking to better himself and his titles. That's what us humans do best. We seek perfection even though it is unattainable. However, it allows us to bring out the best in ourselves and in this case the best of TM. As long as Jaffe keeps this mentality we will always appreciate his work and efforts.
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Reply #14 - 06/22/10 at 15:16:01
 
CyborgnetX wrote on 06/22/10 at 10:38:49:
Anytime someone can sit down and say to themselves they are at the top of their game, it is frankly time to move on. Thankfully, Jaffe is hard on himself and is constantly seeking to better himself and his titles. That's what us humans do best. We seek perfection even though it is unattainable. However, it allows us to bring out the best in ourselves and in this case the best of TM. As long as Jaffe keeps this mentality we will always appreciate his work and efforts.


Well said.

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Jaffe has always been the kind of guy that says whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit. I really respect that in him. I think more people need to adopt that kind of attitude.
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