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Reply #45 - 02/15/10 at 09:32:19
 
I'm really dissapointed in Xizor's comment as well. If anything electronic music can be (depending on the artist), can be LESS lazy and MORE creative.

The "Learn how to play a real instrument and not a computer" is null, especially for me. I own/play/write my music on a Rolland JP 8000, which is a keyboard (synth). It has the layout of a piano, thus, I can also play the piano.

I'm not good at mastering my own music, I have my own producer, so I guess you can call me lazy there, but I know how SynthR does his music, and it's not fair at all to call him lazy.

Writing the music is only one half, a large half consisting of writing EVERYTHING, by himself. Drums, basslines, the chorus, verses, you name it. It takes skill to write melodies, even if you aren't doing it on a (real) instrument.

That's my two cents, I don't mean to start an argument.
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Reply #46 - 02/15/10 at 09:47:03
 
激しさと, この胸の中で絡み付いた灼熱の闇  by Dir En Grey.

That's a violent tune, trying to keep up with it is difficult.
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Reply #47 - 02/15/10 at 13:27:44
 
Well you can be disappointed by my opinions all you like but like as I stated before, I won't take back what I've said because I believe in it and I meant it. I'm of an old school, purist mindset and much like an old man who can't program his VCR, I will not let new technology music undermine what is vital and important to what the art form has been since before electricity and modern science, and that is learning to play instruments, in conjunction with others if you like, and achieving something musically that can only be acquired by hard work, dedication, and talent.

Now, I can understand the composition part of doing things on a computer in order to get the sounds of a full band and make up for people/instruments you don't have on hand, but simply because you tell a computer to do it doesn't mean you can do any of that shit on your own in any concrete tangible fashion. It just means you know how to program a computer, keyboard, or whatever to do what you want it to do to make it sound like a real band or real music.

And saying that anyone who composes all parts/fake instruments on a computer/keyboard/whatever is somehow a genius is a far cry from the truth. I, myself, can play multiple instruments and I've written the guitar, bass, drum, vocal, and whatever else parts myself for songs in the past, but it still requires real people to put all that together in a live fashion and if I had a million limbs, I'd certainly try and pull it off. I've messed around with tech, beat makers, sound programs and other shit to make basic outlines of songs, but its never the same as a live band performing that same composition with actual talent, practice, and general music know how.

I appreciate wanting to do multiple things yourself because you don't have others to fill certain roles. Prince used to play all the instruments and parts on his old albums, the first Foo Fighters album was done entirely by Dave Grohl himself, and while that is impressive that they did all the sections and compositions themselves, when it came down to it they still played all that shit on real fucking instruments and not using a fucking computer.

I'm sorry but every time I look at new tech that's being used, demoed, or flaunted as the next big thing in DJ'ing and playing electronic, techno, or whatever, its always something to make doing that bullshit easier. How can someone progress as a "musician" when their chosen format is one that champions simplism and only the mastering of computer programs, triggers, and switches.

I'm sorry, but I went through a "techno" phase as a musician as well, but I quickly learned that it wasn't "the next step" in music as the mid 90 hype would have you believe and its not nearly as fulfilling as playing instruments either by myself or with others and creating something that transcends the confines of your own mind to become something more than the sum of its parts. Music has always been about emotional experiences and I just don't see how you can get that mastering a series of computer programs and technology that doesn't take the musical art form to any new levels but instead dumbs it down.
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Reply #48 - 02/15/10 at 14:24:30
 
"Fuck your Skynet music SnythR! When the robot apocalypse finally happens the machines aren't going to spare you because you speak their language." - Xizor

We will just have to wait for Judgement Day, won't we? I think Jesus Christ listened to electronica, which means I might be a favored soul. Either way, it's a win-win.
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Reply #49 - 02/15/10 at 15:51:27
 
I know how to play drums, guitar, and piano.  And I am learning how to produce using Pro Tools 8.  So I am superior and fuck all of you.

Also, I have a recording studio at my disposal and my dick is long.
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Reply #50 - 02/15/10 at 17:45:05
 
XIZOR wrote on 02/15/10 at 08:30:12:
Fuck your Skynet music SnythR! When the robot apocalypse finally happens the machines aren't going to spare you because you speak their language.


no, but he'll be able to put on his music and make the robots start dancing with glowsticks long enough for him to make his way into the underground lands of Zion where him, Moby and Bjork can master a plan to defeat the machines
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Reply #51 - 02/15/10 at 18:59:36
 
You can just call me Neo. I will fucking fight the shit out of these machines til my last breath. Their music is nothing but a series of ones and ZEROS!


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Reply #52 - 02/15/10 at 21:02:34
 
LOL

what is up with you and Matrix promo posters? that's 2 in 24 hrs
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Reply #53 - 02/16/10 at 02:11:40
 
Iron Maiden, Run for the Hills
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Reply #54 - 02/16/10 at 06:10:43
 
I'm guessing you missed the part where I play the piano.
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Reply #55 - 02/16/10 at 06:19:15
 
Just because you have a piano doesn't mean you can play it. I call shenanigans.
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Reply #56 - 02/16/10 at 06:19:24
 
speaking of techno..

DJ Shadow - Six Days
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Reply #58 - 02/16/10 at 06:22:55
 
That's like a white trash version of the Black Eyed Peas only better because there aren't any blacks or native Americans in the band.
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