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Reply #45 - 01/07/10 at 18:12:56
 
All my friends hate splitscreen so much that we generally will bring TVs and 360s over to other people houses, when we LAN online, just to avoid the travesty of sharing a screen with someone else.

Yes splitscreen is nice online (offline its fine), but it does hinder one's potential to pwn.
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Reply #46 - 01/07/10 at 22:26:38
 
DAVID JAFFE: "Seems someone also made a KRISTA SPARKS (from Twisted Metal 2) and BRIMSTONE (from Twisted Metal: Black!) Thanks for the Twisted Metal love ya'll! What a cool idea: Twisted Metal on PS3! SWEET!!!!"

Might want to check his blog just now.

There's another poll up as well which might be relevant.

I think a great poll would have been which cars you want to see return?
That aint likely tho since I would think all the cars are in place now?

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Reply #47 - 01/07/10 at 22:37:18
 
Fuck, can anyone explain how the gears of war, mw2 or uncharted works? i honestly dont know

Edit: I meant to say, for those of you who played the other games, (gow2) (mw2) (uncharted) is it that much different than halo3?...
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Reply #48 - 01/07/10 at 23:57:14
 
I voted Halo 3 and not just because its a favorite of mine, but because you generally get put in games with people about your rank or skill level. GoW2 and MW2 seem to put you against people of all kinds of different ranks. And really if you want to look to any of those games for how to do an online game right Halo 3 is the obvious choice to me and that goes beyond just online rank/leveling up/perks/whatever. I still think Halo is one of the most customizable MP games around if not the most. One could only hope the new TM would ship with some kind of map editor like Forge in Halo 3.

I didn't really play a whole lot of Uncharted 2 so I don't really know how well that one stacks up but apparently its in the lead right now by quite a bit. Probably due to all the Sony fan boys that visit his blog I would imagine.
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Reply #49 - 01/08/10 at 00:45:01
 
i had origionaly voted for halo3...aside from what i read online about it and what my friends have told me, that is by far the best ranking system...however i saw  the "make the host kick players out to balance the game" so i changed my vote to uncharted2....that would totally suck if this TM didnt have a matchmaking system.  so if i had my pick it would go

1. halo3
2. uncharted
3. modern warfare2
4. gears
5...the last one isnt even an option to me

more polls jaffe!! more more more!
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Reply #50 - 01/08/10 at 00:55:10
 
i voted no matchmaking, they all suffer from same flaws.

there is no perfect way to pair up "similar skilled" people. every single game on that list I own and ive seen myself paired against far higher "ranked" individuals, its INEVITABLE.

thus, I want no matchmaking, and just server list/lobby like TMBO.

OR if they must have matchmaking, just use ranked matches for it. and leave the social/unranked crowd the ability to host server lobbies and for people to browse game names, etc.
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Reply #51 - 01/08/10 at 12:55:57
 
Exactly what Road said, word for word. A ranked lobby for those who are hardcore about a rank/number in thier name, and a un-ranked server where you can join and quit at will. Just like Gears of War 1.

Gears 2 suffered horribly in the begining. All of us that played 1 religiously were like OMGWTF? 1 had unranked lobbies you could join or quit at will. those were the ones I was on the most because I found the coolest players there. The ranked server always had more assholes because they cared about downs/kills stats on TEAM games. Now if you leave in 2 for any reason, (even DC) you lose ranking points. I'd really hate to see the new TM ruined by a Gears 2 style ranking system. Or any system for that matter.

Sure having a number or rank next to your tag looks good but, there are way to many assholes who have to take advantage, or cheat to make themselves look like pros. A ranking system would bring those people out. Having the choice between ranked/unranked server like Gears 1 would be awesome IMO.
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Reply #52 - 01/08/10 at 16:05:56
 
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Reply #53 - 01/08/10 at 16:12:24
 
bigdogmc1 wrote on 01/07/10 at 11:21:46:
Sorry guys, but I voted for the offline, just 'cuz I don't like the perks idea.  It doesn't show whether or not you're better at the game.  All it shows is you don't have a life and spend all day playing video games.  On other ones with rank and stuff, I've beeen Level 3 and killed Level 50's multiple times.

On another note, why not have both offline and online MP?  That way, everyone wins.


I'm pretty sure that ranking shows who has skill and who doesnt...I could quit my job, become a recluse and just stay inside and play TM all day long - but if I play, suck an d constantly lose my rank will never truly rise to anything great.  In fact, if I had mad skills at TM and played it only when the day came to an end and did nothing but win - my rank and level would reflect on it.  I played halo 3 for moooonths at my friend's place and I am terrible at fps and guess what, I was stuck playing noobs and people on my level for those several months, all the while the elites probably had bigger and more fun games with other elites.  So yes matchmaking does show skill of people who are good at the game.

Xizor, I know we don't know hardly anything about this game, but Jaffe seems to be asking the fans for their input on gaming types and offline vs online stuff... If Archminion is right about the 6 month hiatus and announcement, then in theory the game should be announced in Feb.  If Jaffe is going to continue these polls or make posts on his blog about what matters the most to you, shouldn't we do our part and hold more dicussions on what we want/hope for/like/dislike/love and hate?

Who cares if we disagree with each other - we always have and always will on every topic that we post, its human nature.  But it does give the rest of us and developers a wide prospective on whats good and whats bad.  I'd much rather have them know something about point of views rather than stab blindly in the dark.

Dave's latest poll asks: Does having the commenting section turned off on this blog make you less interested in visiting?

I voted yes - not the case at all, but I do miss the ability to comment on his blogs
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Reply #54 - 01/08/10 at 16:18:39
 
I voted yes as well.

I think he'll probably let the comments return

I also think the hiatus can only have done the game good.

It looked pretty rough back in xmas 08.

Seeing it now as it's meant to be I guess will be the best possible hype instead of showing it many months back when it's still got placeholders, rough textures etc.

I would have assumed that the build we will see is pretty far along graphically.
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Reply #55 - 01/08/10 at 16:30:05
 
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/trueskill.aspx

I found this while trying look up the difference between the games on the poll.  I found it pretty interesting and informative.  I really didnt know so much went into the calculations of skills.  Even though this article is for xbox live I'm sure the ps3 has something similar
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Reply #56 - 01/08/10 at 18:02:54
 
maartyrr wrote on 01/08/10 at 16:12:24:
Xizor, I know we don't know hardly anything about this game, but Jaffe seems to be asking the fans for their input on gaming types and offline vs online stuff... If Archminion is right about the 6 month hiatus and announcement, then in theory the game should be announced in Feb.  If Jaffe is going to continue these polls or make posts on his blog about what matters the most to you, shouldn't we do our part and hold more dicussions on what we want/hope for/like/dislike/love and hate?


Well, if I knew for a fact that Jaffe came here and read our stuff--and I wish he would considering we are his biggest most loyal fans--I would definitely think discussions like this were very beneficial. But he seems to be on this one way street about interacting with his fans right now, and even before then I don't know the extent to which he ever came to TMA. Wasn't he supposed to make a post here a while back? I remember Nightshade saying he opened the doors because he was supposed to post something but he never did.

Either way, there is nothing wrong with discussing all this. I never meant to sound like we shouldn't. I just think it will be more interesting when we know actual facts.

As for matchmaking and MP, I'm honestly tired of matchmaking as the new standard in most MP games these days. Matchmaking is fine in theory, but I miss the old days of searching for games through a list. Like Mags example of Gears 2 where people do shit like steal downs and kills just to rack up points so they can rank up, that could be a huge problem in TM where kill stealing is a rampant problem in kills only games. If there was ranking and kills only games I imagine being very pissed when I get someone in red and then some asshole comes along and steals my kill so he can get points to win. This was the worst part about V8 Arcade even though it didn't have a ranking system other than leaderboards.
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Reply #57 - 01/08/10 at 18:21:06
 
ah, I see where I'm missing the point. I'm thinking matching making entirely as 1 on 1... and not ffa, or team matches or clan matches (like in warhawk) I can see you reasoning for not wanting the matchmaking. But with the whole trueskill engine or development, the calculation seems to look at the whole rather than just who got the kill. Meaning your damage done to the other cars would weigh in more than someone just putting the final nail in the coffin.

Jaffe is registered here, I used to sneak around on the old TMA and see how long ago was some of the developers last visit and suprisingly enough, everytime i checked it was within a week they were there (kirk baum and co) ofcourse you can't do that here, but for whatever reason i think that they still check it out the site and someone from here talks to Jaffe on aim. So the possibility is strong.

I agree with you about the interacting, but I don't think that he can at this point - for the reasons of being under contract with sony. But I see his polls as a form of communication with us and is reaching out for support on his new game.  I hope he continues to drop tidbits like this, if nothing else its rebuilding the hype and giving us something to talk about
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Reply #58 - 01/09/10 at 02:22:30
 
i liked Jaffe's stance on the new 360 live cc game 'Scrap Metal'.

SACRILEGE!
HERESEY!
LAWSUIT!

wtf I'm dl'ing it anyway...

Looks like a very fun CaC/TM rip off actually

Think I'll get it to!
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Reply #59 - 01/09/10 at 15:04:44
 
"Matchmaking is fine in theory, but I miss the old days of searching for games through a list. Like Mags example of Gears 2 where people do shit like steal downs and kills just to rack up points so they can rank up, that could be a huge problem in TM where kill stealing is a rampant problem in kills only games."

It was bad in TMBO without any ranking system. (UNLIMS!!!) Could only inmagine how bad it'd be with one. Hence the reason why TMA purists at the time of release would do only Net Damage. Cured the ills of some dickhead dropping a gas can on a red from half the level.

At least if there is a matchmaking.......seriously.....take a page out of Gears Of War 1.....make a rank/unranked server/s.......let people jump in and out as they please but, have the customaization tools for host to tweak the game as the room/player feels like playing. Honestly.......I would believe that would be heaven in a wire.

I know we don't have serious concrete info yet. It's still got to be a generalization of info because, almost all games out have these features. It's a pretty good bet that we'll get these things in the new TM. I'm really hoping that Jaffe and whoever else is working on the project actually does poke their heads in here, and gives us a shout. Or read our bickering.  Grin

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