if you really look, nothing is to scale.. poles, trees, ppl, etc.. in comparison to the player cars

no, GTA nor S:I would be considered driving simulators but I do like the way the cars feel.. kinda realistic without being too over the top. if they made the TM cars drive like that, I'd be in heaven

the scaling in GTA was spot-on perfect. the ppl, compared to the cars, compared to the trees and lightpoles, compared to the houses and buildings.. it was perfect. but in TM, the player cars were huge compared to everything else on the map. you could park Sweet Tooth next to a house and he'd be the same size if not bigger. I dunno if they were going for some "larger than life" thing, but it always bugged me

BlahBlahBlah wrote on 10/30/09 at 06:59:29:


no, games like Forza and GT make for really good simulations. the way the cars handle and everything is just like in real life.. most ppl dont drive their real cars like they do the ones in the game, thats why they seem off to you. try taking a hairpin and 80mph in your real car and see if you dont start to slide out

hell, even Forza 3 has an expert mode that requires you to hold a button for the clutch while shifting gears in a manual.. its fucking amazing

BlahBlahBlah wrote on 10/30/09 at 07:28:14:


really, then why the fuck are you here.. on a msg board for a VIDEO GAME.. making observations on a VIDEO GAME..

see now, I could take a hairpin at 80 in my real life car. and in all reality, with my suspension mods and AA traction tires, I could do it without much issue. but there is this thing called money.. it costs money to put my car on a race track, where I can safely run my car. it costs money when I rip my ball joints and tie rod ends apart pulling .9g's and have to pay to replace them. and in these trying times, I dont have all that extra money laying around.. sure, I could go do it on the street and risk killing myself or someone else, but I'm also not a moron

video games were design to let ppl escape into a world where they can do the things they wanna do in real life but just dont have the means to do so.. or its 100% fantasy. you say you're sick of doing everything in a VIRTUAL world... well ok, IN REAL LIFE, go rip the eyeball out of a cyclops and lemme know how that works out for ya

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idk...do they even go 80?...

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those can..

but to even my personal arguement and my hatred for Honda..





those can do it too.. but here's some something a Honda hasnt done



this Cavalier runs 6-second quarter-mile passes all day long.. lets see a Civic do that

nope.. the JEG'S Cavi is a full car with a tube chassis to convert it to rear-wheel drive. the Summit Cavaliers and Sunfire had fiberglass noses on them tho.. so did Nelson Hoyas' old Cavalier. I've never seen a full-drag Cavalier that was all fiberglass

at 17, I didnt have a license or a car.. consider yourself lucky. I've spent alot of money and effort to get my cars where they were.. the one I've got now, I'm the happiest with tho.. and in the last few weeks, has changed drastically, and after this weekend, will change even more