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Reply #15 - 04/29/09 at 23:44:08
 
I understand you guys point of view and I agree that most forums do run people off and are annoying because admins are generally just dicks, but its not like that many people come along that need to be banned. This Blair shit is just allowed to continously linger on for years and years. I understand he contributed some cash to TMA and was contained to only one thread but by that measure if I throw enough cash at TMA can I do whatever I want as well?

Im not trying to sound like a dick but I just think shit slides WAY to often. Most sites would have just gotten rid of Blair, and V-Wing long ago but its not my place to make those calls.
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Reply #16 - 04/30/09 at 00:15:22
 
Fuck, are you for real? Swearing is wrong.
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Reply #17 - 04/30/09 at 04:07:13
 
But just think without Blair the administrators wouldn't have anything to do lol... except you know merge accounts with random members and make Tma Voltrons. hahaha that was just awesome btw.

I mean shit we don't even have censor's here .. the only real banworthy thing I can think of is something that would get the site in trouble.. like posting porn or something I don't even know what could actually get the site in trouble... copyright infringement or something I'm not an outlaw surfer so I couldn't tell ya.

It could just as likely be TMforever/Marco ya know... Blair did once say he'd give him the software to make his IP anynomous. Has anyone considered lurking around Blairs dumbass site for info... Seems like he'd be the type to brag about his antics publically.
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Reply #18 - 04/30/09 at 14:29:38
 
-SCoLD- wrote on 04/29/09 at 22:38:48:
EDIT - Also Nikki's "What HTML color is this, Blair?" had me almost spit soda all over my keyboard.  Bad Nikki.


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Reply #19 - 04/30/09 at 15:36:55
 
Nobody goes to Blairs site so if he posts his antics publicly he's just talking to himself.

I agree completely with Xizor though about banning people. I think if this community had a bit more pride we wouldn't take blood money from Blair and allow him to continuously harass us. I would rather have to move us to a board like this then to owe someone like Blair anything.
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Reply #20 - 04/30/09 at 17:21:35
 
now don't get me wrong I'm not saying he shouldn't be banned... The guys annoying to no end. I should have clarified that in my previous post. I know no one goes to his site... I'm just saying that if the admins need proof... that's the first place I'd look for it.

Pride seems to me alot of the reason TMA was in trouble to begin with. No one has said it yet but Ima go ahead and throw this out there. I'm was thouroughly shocked that Monkey King stopped paying the server bill to begin with... and apparently didn't tell anyone either. Now I'm sure that he simply couldn't pay it for whatever reason... I'm sure he had a reason. Yet not letting someone know is pretty fucked up to me. If someone had known there are plenty of members who would have offered whatever they could in donations to keep it going. Same thing goes for when TMA needs money... no one asks. I was here for nearly a year and a half.. and this current diasaster is the only time I've seen donations publically asked for. There's no shame in asking for help.
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Reply #21 - 04/30/09 at 17:42:25
 
Just to be politically correct OOO, TMA at one point never ever mentioned money at all because we were at a different server whereby Mort didn't have to worry about payment.

A few years later, not only had the site had outgrown the server but TMA also had to move to a server where payment was an issue. That's when the donations thing started. And initially, when things were really looking bad, there were some good perks offered for donating.
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Reply #22 - 04/30/09 at 19:27:16
 
SynthR wrote on 04/30/09 at 15:36:55:
I agree completely with Xizor though about banning people. I think if this community had a bit more pride we wouldn't take blood money from Blair and allow him to continuously harass us. I would rather have to move us to a board like this then to owe someone like Blair anything.


Just so everyone's clear, Mortimer designed TMA all by himself.  He won't even let anyone else look at the code, when I had FTP access to the site years ago, he locked me out of certain sections so I wouldn't "steal his work"...like I ever would.

TMA is run on a need to know basis.  There is shit as a 4 or 5 year admin that I can't even do.  There are things even NightShade can't do.  The commish's can't even give belts.  All of that is for a reason, and those reasons are Mortimer's whether anyone else likes it or not.  He has ALL of the final say in anything.  When I first started posting, Blair was already banned.  Blair originally came back because I asked Mortimer to allow him to come back for "Brawl-o-Mania" so long ago and he made his own promise to Mortimer to behave after that.

And he did behave for about a year.  Not angelic, but not obnoxious, well...as unobnoxious as a Blair can get.  Then after that year, he went off on TMB and literally broke the rules of the site at that point.  When we decided to get rid of him, he hacked several TMA accounts (including my own) and stole several passwords.

Ever since that day I have always said NO to Blair coming back/posting.  ALWAYS.  It's almost a personal grudge because my account was locked for a few days back then, and I lost some powers because of the whole ordeal.  The entire Voltron sig mess is indirectly linked to that incident itself.

The bottom line is TMA GREW so fucking huge because Mortimer keeps everything logged (as he should) we outgrew the old server, which was insanely cheap.  We upgraded to the big guy servers, the real expensive ones, but we would NEVER run out of room.  "The One" was the original treasurer and was the original person whom got us into the contract deal.  The deal is 100 per month.  The One took donations whenever it was around (which was scarce).

Due to more politics and bullshit then I care to write out, The One lost his treasurer job and it was given to someone who had a pure heart of gold.  Monkey King bought people PS2s, copies of TMB, he recently gave away his PSP because he didn't play it anymore.  He works long hours and makes really good money, and he's just that nice of a guy to go out of his way to make sure some TMA people had their TM fix.

So Monkey King (and his wallet, unfortunately) was burdened with being treasurer.  With 100.00 a month leaving your bank account, how long would you stand up for it?  From what I understand, both Mortimer and Monkey King have access to that Paypal account...so who's to say Mortimer didn't take that 500 dollars from Blair to pay Paypal who may have been reaching close to 0 for the first time in 3 years. 

I'm not saying Blair was needed to keep TMA running for another 5 months, but with Monkey King up and leaving, Mortimer probably only did what he needed to do to keep things running as smooth as it could going into the storm.  Looking back, I'm sure Mortimer knew it was coming because of certain things he said.  Ex: One day I was collecting pictures and stuff for what is going to be used in 2.0 and I asked him if I should upload them to TMA, and he said, "No, you should always keep your files on your PC, just in case".  But who knows, could be coincidence.

I'll jump back to that in a second but about banning...

The reason I will never ban V-Wing is simply because being a closet case or emo isn't against TMA rules.  The only reason you want V-Wing gone is simply because he makes pointless posts, really sucks at debating, and you have severly different opinions on nearly every facet of life.  I am with you on all of that, but none of that is against TMA rules, and he likes the TM we support.  I mean he really believes the Earth is 5,000 years old.  It's not against TMA rules unfortunately to be stupid.  TMA's saving grace is non censorship.  As long as you aren't praising TM3-4, you can say anything you want.  He's ignorant, sure, but he follows the rules Mort makes us follow.

And Mortimer has the final say.  Mortimer asked the Admins about Blair's 500 dollar proposal.  The 4 that were asked (minus ENOS/Mosh) said NO.  Adamantly.  Mort basically said it would be turning our backs on TMA because TMA always needs $$ to stay online.  We even suggested a donation drive, but Mort said there weren't any good incentives around.  There was nothing I could do at that point.  I've always tried to get Blair banned, I even found loopholes in his rules only for Mort to tell me to leave him be for now.

As for why MK stopped paying...

I'm not 100% sure bc I never heard it from him, but the last time I talked to him was in November on AIM, and he told me he was going to get the MGS4 bundle online, and would send me a PSN message when he hooked his internet up to the PS3, which would be a few days.  After that I heard nothing, which I assumed he didn't get the PS3 because it was sold out, or he couldn't afford it at that time.  His son is also getting older now, maybe he is getting or recently got a divorce.  Maybe he lost his good job in this shit economy. Maybe since he stopped posting years ago he figured 100/month is a waste.
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Reply #23 - 04/30/09 at 20:13:08
 
Mk's wife is sick....;[

He's a good guy, chances are he couldn't pay it due to other money issues. He may not have had the choice to tell Mort that he couldn't pay it anymore.

I'm no christian, but I believe he's one of the nicest human beings alive and he's getting a lot more shit than he deserves, so I'll go ahead and say God Bless his soul, and I pray that his life gets better very soon.
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Reply #24 - 04/30/09 at 20:31:25
 
But still. Blair needs to be banned from this temp site. Am I wrong? Now that he sees no one is doing anything about it he is spamming these boards again. When the real TMA is back up you guys can deal with him however you want if thats how its going to be, but I just dont see how banning him here, or anyone else we dont like for that matter, is a big deal. What are you guys scared of losing? Respect? Because we all respect you guys, and by you guys I mean the admins and anyone with power. Night and SCoLD, I consider you both my friends, but come on guys.

And how about instead of basing everything on what you guys want or think, how about ask the rest of the fucking community. We are the ones donating and posting here all the time as well. Does our opinion not matter or do I need to pay some more money for it to matter? If everyone else at the site wants someone gone, then why doesnt that matter since the admins and whatnot or worried about stepping on someones toes?

Personally, I dont understand completely why you guys are so affraid of pissing off every single person that comes to the site. You cant please everyone, obviously. What is the big deal with losing one or two posters here and there when you gain great people all the time. If this site had thousands and thousands of members would it be different? Would you guys not feel the need to pamper everyone? Apparently getting new members and growing has caused TMA more problems in retrospect due to having to move servers and actually pay for them, which we cant seem to. When a new TM comes around we will have plenty of new people and they trickle in all the time even when its as dead as it is now.

I know I sound like a dick and I dont mean to but Im just going to speak my mind on this because I will admit the way Blair is being handled does piss my off a little. And as someone whos been coming to this site for a long time I would think my opinions and donations matter as well.
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Reply #25 - 04/30/09 at 20:53:10
 
felononico: Hi Chlamydia
Bjyman is idle at 7:44:54 AM.
Bjyman signed off at 8:22:28 AM.
Bjyman signed on at 10:32:18 AM.
bjyman: uh why are you calling me a STD?
felononico: You dont fool us. Thats your name on the new TMA
felononico: just admit it
bjyman: I didn't think the new TMA was up yet
bjyman: all my pics have broken links
bjyman: So how long have you been hiding this message board from me?
bjyman: just wasnt good enough to be informed?
felononico: So you are being completely honest with me. You swear on your christian god and the life of your sister that you have no idea
bjyman: Well I'm surprised Mort didn't mention something to me when I told him now with TMA down maybe everyone will come to tm2alliance
bjyman: But I'm not going to give you my knowledge until Mort talks to me.
felononico: your knowledge? What are you talking about
bjyman: You want me to tell you about this name on TMA right?
bjyman: Like what I know about it. Well I'm not going to even that notion until Mort talks to me.
bjyman: entertain it
felononico: oh so you know who i am talking about
bjyman: Maybe. Maybe not
felononico: that means yes imo
bjyman: I've heard of informants getting paid only for the payer to find out they know nothing
felononico: well, we all know its you
felononico: and its pretty sick that you are asking guys who is single
bjyman: then why do you need me?
felononico: why would you ask me and magnum and synthr if they are all single
felononico: and u are a wild girl on the first date
bjyman: I have the knowledge you want on whether it's really me or not
bjyman: so like I said you want me to entertain helping out a site who thinks I'm not even good enough to be told about their forum tell Mort.
felononico: we alreeady know its you or u know who is doing it we just want you to stop faking a girl
bjyman:  felononico [10:35 AM]:  just admit it
felononico: ugh
felononico: dude, idk anymore with you
bjyman: ok then bye
felononico: ive tried time and time again to help you
bjyman: I tried to give you a deal
felononico: what deal? What are you talking about
bjyman: I told you I'd entertain telling what I know if you get Mort to talk to me. There's something I need from him.
felononico: You know better than me that mort wont do anything he doesnt want to
felononico: so if doesnt want to talk to you, no one can change his mind
bjyman: thanks for the compliment but I believe this is negotiable
felononico: how do u figure?
bjyman: Like you said I know Mort
felononico: so what does this have to do with me?
bjyman: Is it just you who wants to know or does Mort want to know too?
felononico: mort doesnt care. hes not even on the new site.
felononico: its a temp site
bjyman: pity well I think I'll hold onto it
felononico: whatever
felononico: i dont know dude. Its no wonder
felononico: So are you gay now?
bjyman: Me gay? Of course not.
felononico: so why are you asking the guys if they are single
bjyman: That question is based on an assumption you know something you dont
felononico: But as far as I am concerned, you are who I think you are
felononico: unless you tell me different, i can only assume that like everyoneelse does
bjyman: I'm only here to talk to Mort
bjyman: For him not to care whoever this person is must not be causing a lot of trouble.
felononico: its not his site
felononico: the temp site is not his
bjyman: TMA is not his site?
bjyman: So who's is it?
bjyman: Well Mort still owns the domain name. He should be concerned about what happens at something he's linked to.
felononico: This is for TMAers to continue communicating while we wait for the new tma
felononico: and if you want me to tell you who owns the temp site, you have to tell me why u are posting as a woman at the temps site
bjyman: Is that why I didn't get told about it?
bjyman: It is very hard for me to have a conversation with someone who makes assumptions when they don't know if something is true or not. I am based on fact.
felononico: u seem to like to fake identities
bjyman: really?
felononico: horribly doing so
bjyman: have I rigged tm2alliance that way?
felononico: u claim to be a woman on the tma temp site
bjyman: If I was doing that it would have 40 posters by now
bjyman: Enough with the unverified assumptions.
felononico: prove me and tma wrong
bjyman: So it's not just you it's all TMA who thinks this?
felononico: yup
bjyman: It is not hard to prove an unverified assumption wrong
bjyman: but as I said it's still his brand so for Mort not to care this poster must not be doing anything bad.
felononico: Its not Morts site. Hes still working on the real tma. Mort knows about the temp site but hes not admin over it
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Reply #26 - 04/30/09 at 21:00:17
 
bjyman: heh then if its not real then make me an admin
felononico: sorry, not gonna happen
bjyman: then it is very true to the form somewhat
bjyman: You still haven't told me what I'm not good enough to be an admin and why I wasn't told about the site.
felononico: First of all, not my site. Secondly, you already know the site, thirdly, no one would agree
felononico: that would be admin
bjyman: I mean why they wouldn't
bjyman: I'm the bad guy right?
bjyman: The scum!!
bjyman: The leper!
felononico: well you harrassed the tma site
felononico: u spammed the crap out of it
felononico: you dont listen to anyone else but yourself
bjyman: on a post I payed $500 for. All approved by Mort
felononico: u puposely annoy other people
felononico: Yea how pathetic, but thanks for the donation money
bjyman: Oh you make an admin I think you'd find out that I'd be much more easier to get along with.
felononico: i dont think so
bjyman: See you think you know me so well but you don't.
felononico: i know enough
bjyman: What do you know?
felononico: enough
bjyman: what do you consider to be enough?
bjyman: You're making the assumption that I even let you and TMA get to see the real me.
felononico: you have been given numerous chances to show the "real you" and it failedeach time.
bjyman: Remember it was Mort who stopped that apology
felononico: no no no no. Even before that. how many times have you been allowed back and how many times did your chance for redemption went right out the window because of your attitude
bjyman: All I wanted was a brawl and everyone else thought it was too much to ask.
bjyman: And in my pursuit of brawling you even stabbed me in the back by closing down my threads all in your pursuit of power.
bjyman: Was free speech too much to ask?
felononico: Forget the friggen brawl. No one wants to brawl with you. If you werent such a moron, youd know that by now. Get over it move on and try something different
bjyman: because they're afraid
felononico: lol
felononico: keep telling yourself that
bjyman: I will
bjyman: That they just pretended to be annoyed.
felononico: plenty of better brawlers on tma than you
bjyman: Anyone would want to brawl with me if I was easy to beat.
bjyman: It would be an instant boost for their ego and reputation at TMA.
bjyman: But no they turned down the instant boost.
bjyman: What does that tell me?
felononico: No one likes you. You dont contribute anything. Your history with tma is dispicable. And it wouldnt be brawling because everyone would be bashing you because they hate you, not because they want to brawl with you. Brawling is fun. But, not if you are truly hated
bjyman: I think if I was truly hated that would make it even more funner.
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bjyman: So now that its been at least a few years. Admit it. You turned on me as part of your plan to gain popularity for your mod position.
felononico: I really dont care about mod
bjyman: So it's admin then? That Oral Servant of Blair belt must have driven you right over the edge.
felononico: never saw that
bjyman: Yeah originally I was the Oral Servant of you and you were my master. But that got switched.
felononico: hmmm i guess i never gave it any thought since  i didnt care
bjyman: its kind of hard not to notice the belts on your profile
felononico: What do you want me to say i dont remember
bjyman: How about tell me why you turned on me. I remember the days we annoyed X-Man so vividly.
felononico: I didnt turn on you whether you want to believe it or not. I simply grew up and matured
felononico: I adapted
bjyman: But you didn't seem too neutral when you became a mod. In fact you did a 180 closing down the posts you used to make.
felononico: thats the job of a mod
bjyman: I think other admins like Scold and Nightshade were looking the other way. You were on the exteme end.
felononico: lol I did the work for them. Trust me they are the ones that gave me the ok as I always asked permission and what the best course of action should be
bjyman: really? I always blamed it on you.
felononico: that shows how much you know
bjyman: You striked me as being impulsive and trigger happy.
bjyman: I keep hearing don't make P7 mad
bjyman: he's going to beat your ass
felononico: who said that?
bjyman: dont remember since it was a long time ago
bjyman: possibly Vanilla Nikki
felononico: thats her thats not me
bjyman: lol I'd like to see her try
bjyman: I had some girls scratch me. It was actually quite fun.
bjyman: So she's not afraid of me?
felononico: not at all. Why would she be?
bjyman: I didn't say she was
felononico: so why would you ask?
bjyman: She blocked me
bjyman: get her to unblock me. I want to talk to her if she's not afraid.
felononico: she doesnt want to talk to you
bjyman: yes but she'd do what you tell her to
felononico: but i wont tell her to
bjyman: you could even change her mind
felononico: what would you wanna talk about with her?
bjyman: I don't know I haven't talked to her in a while
bjyman: probably about how she thinks she can kick ass
bjyman: I want to understand her psyche.
felononico: i dont think she would wanna talk to you
bjyman: Do you know why?
bjyman: I suppose probably what I did at TMA
felononico: and comments about me and her
bjyman: I don't remember what comments I made. But whatever  I said I'm sorry.
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Reply #27 - 04/30/09 at 21:21:38
 
just ban him. the delay was so we make sure he actually was blair and im convinced. being blair is against temp tma rules. psp wifi kicks ass.            
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Reply #28 - 04/30/09 at 22:02:18
 
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Reply #29 - 04/30/09 at 22:36:56
 
NightShade wrote on 04/30/09 at 21:21:38:
just ban him. the delay was so we make sure he actually was blair and im convinced. being blair is against temp tma rules. psp wifi kicks ass.                


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