GrindhouseCinema wrote on 04/21/09 at 18:39:20:
PureNRG ... not directed at you. You've got a valid opinion in all of this
And yes... American Head Charge does in fact rule.
OutOrOrder... exactly, though your 100% correct some people do take things far to serious round these parts
I see the point your making
(and your the only one here attempting to make a valid point). Though I still think metal is metal. What was heavy in 1973 is obviously not going to be as hard or as fast as what is played today. But its still heavy metal. Regardless.
Kilrgrn ... from the bands Wikipedia page:
Green Day was originally part of the punk rock scene at 924 Gilman Street in Berkeley, California Walk into FYI (you know the big store in your mall that sells these awesome things known as compact discs. Amazing little things they are) and I'm pretty sure you'll find them under the punk rock / pop section. So what was your point again? Oh that's right your still clinging to any hope you've got at sounding like you know how to properly classify music. Come back when you've got an opinion or something intelligent to say.
Magnum... I think the show was called "A Headbangers Journey" right? I remember watching it on VH1 when it first aired. I just happened to have that specific clip in my favorite list over on YouTube. See... I knew there was a reason why I bookmark everything!
DeathStrikesBack ... you haven't answered my question yet. Do you think "The Sex Pistols" are no longer punk because "Green Day" came after them and reinvented the punk genera? And you can't take the easy rout out
(like Kilrgrn... and your name looks like its missing a few letters, by the way) and say Green Day isn't punk, as that is generally where they are classified.
And yes you do need a history lesson
And don't even start this weak ass argument of thinking you have a superior taste in music because you can list some indy bands that four people and there mother have heard of. For one that's about the OLDEST trick int he book. Plus it just makes you look like a self centered jackass, even more so then normal. Go shoot your load off elsewhere.
Green day was never punk, nor do I give a shit. I don't follow punk, but using Green Day is a terrible example, especially considering that anything the Sex Pistol's has done is way more punk than anything green day did in their punk 'moments'.
Also, you completely missed my fucking point captain 'classic metal'. I was saying that none of that shit was heavy, was it loud yes, good, yes, heavy...not so much. For instance there's seriously no fucking difference between Judas Priest's You've Got Another Thing Comin' and Airbourne's Runnin Wild, what justifies one being labeled metal while the other is merely labeled 'rock' (or for lack of better terms, complete and total AC/DC ripoffs?). I've always fucking hated when people try to connect on the terms of 'yeah! i listen to metal' then you list of shit that over the years has been watered down to the point where it's pretty much been become butt rock. I've seen Maiden and Sabbath live (amazing show too), so it's not like I don't love the music but the term metal has been redefined countless times over, and for the people that constantly need to lecture the current state of the genre simply because for them, music stopped in the 80's, go fuck yourself.
Metal is supposed to be loud, abrasive and vicious, if you can't hack it, get the fuck out.
Also, to highlight the usage of Death growls, how many people seriously miss the fact that it's mostly percussive as opposed to being an actual means to deliver a message?
And cease with the history lessons my child, I can watch Vh1 with the best of them, for every band you list and state affected the music I love and worship, I can name seven more. Do you believe everything VH1 says? Metal Evolution was an okay show, but they completely overlooked the last twenty or thirty years, ignoring so many movements within the heavy metal scene, it was clear that music for them stopped in the 80's as well. The only thing they have aired that I would recommend watching heavy music related is Metal: A Headbanger's Journey, which was done by an Anthropology major, and he does a damn good job highlighting how the genre has changed over the years.
Oh, and beautiful job listing Slipknot's (Stone Sour Part Deux) Before I Forget and labeling it metal. Lemme guess, Avenged Sevenfold is as heavy as you got?