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So What Do You Think of Obama?
04/04/09 at 00:22:33
 
He's been in the office for about 90 days. How has he fared so far? Obama's slogan is change and that's what I think we need now. He has outrageous budget plans that will send the nation spiraling into debt. But I think increasing the debt to that magnitude may be necessary to get out of this mess.
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Re: So What Do You Think of Obama?
Reply #1 - 04/04/09 at 00:23:22
 
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Reply #2 - 04/04/09 at 01:31:55
 
Hes trying hard, ill give him that.

Too early to tell still. This 20 dollar a week thing for the stimuls was dumb and we shoulda gotten the lump sum like last year.
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Reply #3 - 04/04/09 at 03:42:41
 
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Reply #4 - 04/04/09 at 04:10:39
 
What did I ever do to you?

Anyways back on topic. I assume this $20 will be added onto people's paychecks every week. But what about unemployed people? Will they just be receiving $20 checks in the mail?
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Reply #5 - 04/04/09 at 04:31:56
 
I actually hadn't heard about the $20 part of the stimulus. I think it's better like this than a lump sum, so people are more likely to use it on stuff like food or bills or important stuff as opposed to going out and buying a new TV or something.

Still, the concept of giving citizens free money for no reason doesn't strike me as the best approach to the problem. I'd prefer the money to be used as incentives to motivate people to be more productive.
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Reply #6 - 04/04/09 at 09:19:43
 
NightShade wrote on 04/04/09 at 04:31:56:
I actually hadn't heard about the $20 part of the stimulus. I think it's better like this than a lump sum, so people are more likely to use it on stuff like food or bills or important stuff as opposed to going out and buying a new TV or something.

Still, the concept of giving citizens free money for no reason doesn't strike me as the best approach to the problem. I'd prefer the money to be used as incentives to motivate people to be more productive.



so out of curiousity how.....would accomplish that?? I don't see any way that giving people money would make them more productive ...what incentives? I don't get it mang.
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Reply #7 - 04/04/09 at 09:47:24
 
Tax incentives. Like say you dont drive to work, you take public transit. Or you bought a hybrid or EV car instead of an SUV. You recycle, you used less electricity; by buying energy efficient appliances, dishwashers, dryers, fridges, a/c units... etc.

The government could say 'we will give you [X] amount of dollars back for purchasing green "stuff" (see above) then. It would influence people to buy appliances that are wasteful, buy a better car with lower emissions, and perhaps entice them by the little bonus cash they get back.

Nightshade doesnt want the government to just toss you money for no reason, he wants people to have something to show for it, so they are rewarded for their smarter "choices".
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Reply #8 - 04/04/09 at 16:37:21
 
NightShade wrote on 04/04/09 at 04:31:56:
I actually hadn't heard about the $20 part of the stimulus. I think it's better like this than a lump sum, so people are more likely to use it on stuff like food or bills or important stuff as opposed to going out and buying a new TV or something.

Still, the concept of giving citizens free money for no reason doesn't strike me as the best approach to the problem. I'd prefer the money to be used as incentives to motivate people to be more productive.


I'm not sure I agree about citizens but the automakers sent that money down the toilet.
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Reply #9 - 04/04/09 at 18:13:25
 
NightShade wrote on 04/04/09 at 04:31:56:
I actually hadn't heard about the $20 part of the stimulus. I think it's better like this than a lump sum, so people are more likely to use it on stuff like food or bills or important stuff as opposed to going out and buying a new TV or something.

Still, the concept of giving citizens free money for no reason doesn't strike me as the best approach to the problem. I'd prefer the money to be used as incentives to motivate people to be more productive.


Yea in the next few weeks our paychecks will see more money like an extra 15 - 20 dollars if you are working and fal under certain criteria.

I prefer the lump sum like last year. What the fuck am i supposed to do with 20 extra bucks?
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Reply #10 - 04/04/09 at 21:55:14
 
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I prefer the lump sum like last year. What the fuck am i supposed to do with 20 extra bucks?


Use it on liquor, hookers and drugs like everyone else.
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Reply #11 - 04/04/09 at 23:13:19
 
RoaDiE wrote on 04/04/09 at 09:47:24:
Tax incentives. Like say you dont drive to work, you take public transit. Or you bought a hybrid or EV car instead of an SUV. You recycle, you used less electricity; by buying energy efficient appliances, dishwashers, dryers, fridges, a/c units... etc.

The government could say 'we will give you [X] amount of dollars back for purchasing green "stuff" (see above) then. It would influence people to buy appliances that are wasteful, buy a better car with lower emissions, and perhaps entice them by the little bonus cash they get back.

Nightshade doesnt want the government to just toss you money for no reason, he wants people to have something to show for it, so they are rewarded for their smarter "choices".


Bingo, that's exactly the kind of thing I was getting at. You could apply that logic to just about any sort of positive goal really - perhaps an incentive to businesses for providing health coverage for example.

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I prefer the lump sum like last year. What the fuck am i supposed to do with 20 extra bucks?


Pay the bills, buy food, donate to TMA, or save it until you have as much as you did in a lump sum and then buy whatever you bought last time with the lump sum.
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Reply #12 - 04/04/09 at 23:46:26
 
I agree I would much rather have 20 bucks a month than a lump sum at the end of the year, but that's just me.  My lump sum went toward using it as a down payment when buying a new car last year.  So I didn't see it anyway.
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Reply #13 - 04/05/09 at 15:17:44
 
Great. A political post. Just awesome.  Sad

20 bucks, or lump sum.......you'll be needing to report it as taxable income next year when you do your taxes. I had to report that 1600 I got last year. It makes no difference IMO. They're just getting some of it right back.

I agree with making incentives to making people more producitve than just a handout. Don't see how with unemployment being so high. It's almost a catch 22 here. You want people to work or spend money wizely or responcibly but yet, the climate for alot of people ins't that way.

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Reply #14 - 04/08/09 at 12:49:44
 
Really dumb doing it this way, but eh
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