It is my understanding that there are a lot of people who are looking to escape the mainstream *ahem* excuse me, the legacy media's narrative and just want to hear the facts. This post will offer a list of those different sources. This is everything I have found so far.

Feel free to offer more suggestions. For what it's worth, I'll offer my approval if I deem it is a worthy source for facts.


The following can be found on YouTube:

- Newsmax TV
- OAN
- Turning Point USA
- Project Veritas
- Real America's Voice News
- Diamond and Silk
- The Officer Tatum
- The Tatum Report
- Charlie Kirk
- DDayCobra
- Ben Shapiro
- The Ledger Report with Graham Ledger
- Senator Ted Cruz
- John Talks
- The Truth
- Liberal Hivemind
- Conservative Twins
- ConservativeGuy
- Bevelyn Beatty
- Candace Owens
- The Exiled Princess

>Right wing-biased news sources

Yeah, no... If you think those places are where to get facts, you're living in a bubble. Hell, some of those sites are considered questionable by Media Bias Fact Check. Next you'll suggest the fuckin' KKK.

Fuck off back to your alternative reality.

Methid Man wrote on 11/08/20 at 22:38:15:

>Right wing-biased news sources Yeah, no... If you think those places are where to get facts, you're living in a bubble. Hell, some of those sites are considered questionable by Media Bias Fact Check. Next you'll suggest the fuckin' KKK. Fuck off back to your alternative reality.

Uhh, no. First of all, who is fact checking the fact checkers? That place has a headline that says Biden has won the 2020 election despite the FACT that vote counting hasn't ended in many deciding states, voting errors have been made and could be made again, a lot of litigation remains pending, recounts may take place and Congress has yet to come together to read out the elector votes for the official/final decision (on 1/6/2021). Second, a lot of those sources are black people with slim chances of ever supporting the KKK (by default, duh). And third, maybe one day you'll end up on the #Walkaway Campaign YouTube channel telling YOUR story about how you were blinded, misguided and lied to by the left. Because once you leave the left you'll never go back. Anyone who gets burned by the left/Democrats never return. I should know because that's where I began. Look at Ice Cube who was open to either party who would listen to him. Guess who listened? That's right, no surprise, Republicans not Democrats.

bahahahaha
trump lost. sorry man.

candace owens and ben chaperone lmao

Obliverate wrote on 11/09/20 at 01:00:05:

bahahahaha trump lost. sorry man. candace owens and ben chaperone lmao

Excuse me, but is that a projected loss or a certified loss for Donald Trump you're talking about? I just want to be clear so that things aren't misconstrued. Hopefully you understand where I'm coming from...

Oh, and I'd love to hear your opinion on Candace Owens and Ben Shapiro. In my opinion, Candace Owens doesn't post too often; however she's in the middle of filing a lawsuit against the so-called "fact-checkers", so she gets a pass. And Ben Shapiro isn't perfect, but is nevertheless excellent; except he does do a bit much in-video advertising than I care for; but I understand if one needs the sponsors to get their message out.

45 is as good as gone come January 20th, 2021. There is absolutely no reason to take anything you say seriously.

You can keep drinking the Kool-Aid for all I care.

Methid Man wrote on 11/09/20 at 01:34:20:

45 is as good as gone come January 20th, 2021. You can keep drinking the Kool-Aid for all I care.

The irony is strong with this one...

https://i.imgur.com/8RT9yDu.png

Must be nice living in a dreamworld. Hope you never wake up.

Wow, a leftist cartoon! You got me there, man. How can I argue with that? Fucking checkmate, bro!


Now let's see...

Up is up. Down is down. True is true. False is false.

OMG, did the cartoon nail the way I think??!!


Wait, not matching up. Then it must be... *dun, dun, dun*... PROPAGANDA.


Oh shit.

TwistedChains wrote on 11/09/20 at 02:09:56:

Wait, not matching up. Then it must be... *dun, dun, dun*... PROPAGANDA.

The irony is strong with this one.

Methid Man wrote on 11/09/20 at 07:32:58:

The irony is strong with this one.

Yeah, because it sounds like you would know...

When the legal only votes are tallied, you're gonna know 45 is still your president for the next 4 years...

https://i.imgur.com/UEWOqPy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PVYoa0p.png

Cope.

Ok, enough daydreaming. Here's what's happening in reality:

https://youtu.be/uaVEppGkTQw

As you can see in the above clip, truth and fairness are being suppressed. The biased, liberal media (which now includes FOX, apparently) doesn't want to hear what the other side has to say (you can see the suppression taking place as Giuliani tries to speak). How can anyone say there's no evidence and then turn around and try to ignore someone when they try to present it? That ONE video alone should tell you something doesn't smell right. Doesn't matter if you're Democrat, Republican or whatever... ALL should be concerned about whether or not there is a fair election taking place. This is an important matter to any party that wishes to get elected fair and square BY THE PEOPLE. The courts will sort this out even if it must reach the SCOTUS. Even IF there's no fraud found, then at least we can ALL have a peace of mind KNOWING it's fair; and that would give Biden (assuming he wins, though it's yet to be officially determined) the support of the other half of the country. He said he wants to be an American president for ALL people; then he should want the litigation to go through and put EVERYONE'S mind at ease so that he does not have to lead a divided country. If you think he'll make even a decent president, he should want that; and ALL should expect that from a potential candidate seeking a potential presidency. It's going through, regardless, but that would be the responsible thing to do on his part.

Is that Rudy Giuliani I see there? The same guy who held that embarrassing press conference in a parking lot between a dildo store and a crematorium? The same guy who fabricated that ridiculous laptop story that ended up being disproven even by republicans?

Yeah, keep destroying your credibility by following a guy who's already lost a lot of his own. It'd be funny if it weren't so pitiful.

You're just not worth talking to so I'll just stop here. Have fun in dreamland.

Omfg it's like watching chimps fight.

Hey Kilrahi. I resent that. I like watching chimps fight. Who are you to put me down for it? I like watching shit fly.

I just wanna say that I'm fine living in this dystopian paradise. It's fine. This is fine.

Quote:

I just wanna say that I'm fine living in this dystopian paradise. It's fine. This is fine.

Trump 2024!!!!!!!
ALL THE WAY BROTHER

Just embrace it. It's easier.


https://i.imgur.com/iSpDWBj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mGv87H6.gif

Kilrgrn is premature:

https://youtu.be/c7BYXVbl5Jc


Also, Trump will continue his second term. Biden will never and was never going to be president:

https://youtu.be/XbeA5IHhwYQ

But....

https://i.imgur.com/yZnI60k.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZvHy6WW.png

The liberal media is PROJECTING Joe Biden as president-elect. It means absolutely nothing and they don't decide the election. Biden or Trump must be CERTIFIED in order for that to be official. We will not know this until January 6th when Congress is supposed to make an official announcement of certification of the electoral votes. Why do the left not talk about this? Look at the LANGUAGE the leftist media is using. PAY ATTENTION when they tell you things like "PROJECTED" rather than "CERTIFIED." It's pure marketing and conditioning. Plain and simple.


On top of all that, we're still waiting to see how all of this is going to play out in the courts:

https://youtu.be/TTw4aErwego

"The issue is not that Democrats are stealing the election from Trump, it's that the Democratic Party are stealing it from the American people."

- Steve Craddock (top YouTube comment under the video)

https://youtu.be/b3Ntbjx9F7g

"when did AP become an electoral college? Credibility down the drain." - dean denaer (YouTube comment under the above video)


https://youtu.be/jhfdW_X-NH0

"The media can't claim a victory. It's up in the air till dec 14th" - Tommy Kreisler (YouTube comment under the above video)

"Ummm not quite so fast... they are recounting votes." - Gianna Zurita (YouTube comment under the above video)

You know the reason why I said a dystopian paradise anyone? Dystopia but look how cool everything is!! Nothing to see here!  It's because we just had an election for President of the USA and this bullshit is even fucking happening. It's fucking insanity. All these videos of "proof" all these news outlets calling it "lies"

What the absolute fuck?

I shouldn't say this but fuck all of this. Every single fucking bit of it. I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick to death of 2 fucking sides of our political spectrum crying and acting like spoiled fucking children on a playground. The playground is OUR fucking country! But who gives a shit right so long as one side wins? Makes me fucking sick. If the Democrats have done all the fraud they supposedly done, then by all means lets burn them to the ground. I'm pretty damn sure that's what the Dems would do if it was found out Trumpy was frauding this shit. I bet we wouldn't have any major cities left. I also just love how there have been people who have been in congress and the Senate for more than 20+ years but holy shit it's always the Presidents fault.

I shouldn't say this either but I didn't vote for either one of them. Yea.......I "wasted" my vote. Sure seems like the right thing to do considering they're getting thrown out anyway huh? Why Mags? Why would you waste your vote like that? Gee I dunno. Considering that if I would say I'm for Biden, Trump peeps would be shouting me down. Say I'm for Trump and I have to worry my house gets burned down for being racist. There is no middle ground anymore and that's where the problem is. I'm in the fucking middle. Tired of getting fucking yelled at by both god damn sides. Tired of the bullshit both sides do to win at all costs. Tired of seeing what this country has come to because people would rather scream and yell than to discuss or come to a middle ground agreement to en-better all. I'm also sick of the fucking media. I'm sick to death of corporations and billionaires using our political system as their private clubhouse to en-better themselves and fuck the regular people over. 

I literally don't give a flying fuck who you vote for. I really don't. It's none of my business unless you want to discuss it with me. But when it starts to get to a point where it's like this now with an election, I'm gonna have a problem with it.

When the phrase "United we stand, divided we fall" is mentioned, this is exactly that. This country is so split by bullshit, nothing is going to wake people up until there are tanks rolling the streets, and we go under marshal law. By then it's to late.

My father in law who passed away in 2016, missed the Korean War but was active. A year previous before he died, He asked me where do you see this country in 50 years? I said I didn't. I swear to god that's what I said. He said he's glad he won't be around. right now looking at how shit is going, I'm glad he's not.      

I never served in the military but, I'd sure hate to be in their shoes in the years to come. 

I laughed so hard at this 4 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

Magnum wrote on 11/14/20 at 13:47:19:

You know the reason why I said a dystopian paradise anyone? Dystopia but look how cool everything is!! Nothing to see here!  It's because we just had an election for President of the USA and this bullshit is even fucking happening. It's fucking insanity. All these videos of "proof" all these news outlets calling it "lies" What the absolute fuck? I shouldn't say this but fuck all of this. Every single fucking bit of it. I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick to death of 2 fucking sides of our political spectrum crying and acting like spoiled fucking children on a playground. The playground is OUR fucking country! But who gives a shit right so long as one side wins? Makes me fucking sick. If the Democrats have done all the fraud they supposedly done, then by all means lets burn them to the ground. I'm pretty damn sure that's what the Dems would do if it was found out Trumpy was frauding this shit. I bet we wouldn't have any major cities left. I also just love how there have been people who have been in congress and the Senate for more than 20+ years but holy shit it's always the Presidents fault. I shouldn't say this either but I didn't vote for either one of them. Yea.......I "wasted" my vote. Sure seems like the right thing to do considering they're getting thrown out anyway huh? Why Mags? Why would you waste your vote like that? Gee I dunno. Considering that if I would say I'm for Biden, Trump peeps would be shouting me down. Say I'm for Trump and I have to worry my house gets burned down for being racist. There is no middle ground anymore and that's where the problem is. I'm in the fucking middle. Tired of getting fucking yelled at by both god damn sides. Tired of the bullshit both sides do to win at all costs. Tired of seeing what this country has come to because people would rather scream and yell than to discuss or come to a middle ground agreement to en-better all. I'm also sick of the fucking media. I'm sick to death of corporations and billionaires using our political system as their private clubhouse to en-better themselves and fuck the regular people over.  I literally don't give a flying fuck who you vote for. I really don't. It's none of my business unless you want to discuss it with me. But when it starts to get to a point where it's like this now with an election, I'm gonna have a problem with it. When the phrase "United we stand, divided we fall" is mentioned, this is exactly that. This country is so split by bullshit, nothing is going to wake people up until there are tanks rolling the streets, and we go under marshal law. By then it's to late. My father in law who passed away in 2016, missed the Korean War but was active. A year previous before he died, He asked me where do you see this country in 50 years? I said I didn't. I swear to god that's what I said. He said he's glad he won't be around. right now looking at how shit is going, I'm glad he's not.       I never served in the military but, I'd sure hate to be in their shoes in the years to come.  I laughed so hard at this 4 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

https://i.imgflip.com/14hvnw.jpg

And this is why I don't engage in these types of conversations. Usually no one sees the middle. They are flying their tribes flag and will die on that hill. Fuck everyone else.

Though I appreciate it, You already cast your die and are in the convo buddy! Pull up a chair and lets pass around the dirty underwear.

BTW this country sure seems to be a powder keg right now. If it's found that there was fraud to get Biden in after the media declares him the winner??? Then puts Trump back in office??

Look at the vote map of where almost all the blue is. We'd be lucky to have a major city left in the aftermath. In Baltimore and DC there was "talk" of boarding up on the 5th and 6th just in case.

What the absolute fuck? Did anyone else in a major city hear that kind of talk at all? 

I havent heard anything of the such, but Illinois is going into close to complete locckdown because of the corona. I dont live anywhere near Chicago. So I don't hear much about that city.

Maybe they are just using the C virus (Ah resident evil) to keep people at home hah. I wouldnt doubt it with the climate we've created as a country.

In all honesty, I'm just tired of the bullshit from the left right now. You can stand anywhere you want: the right, in the middle or my personal favorite which is off to the side away from the unwashed masses.

But the left is completely out of control and being anywhere away from that side is a step closer to truth and sanity. I've literally seen a comment where a Republican voter mentioned that there are 71 million (now 73) Republicans and not 1 city burned to the ground. A Democrat responded that there are, I think, 76 million (at the time, supposedly. Now 79, supposedly) Democrats that voted and not 1 city burned down. I mean, what kind of retort is that? They burned shit down in the summer first of all. And second, if you beLIEve your candidate won, then why the fudge would you be pissed? If the tables flip in December or January, you will likely see Dems burning down citys while Reps will not change regardless of the outcome. There were places preparing for Dems getting pissed, not Reps. Where is the logic on the left? I see often that Dems think Reps are going to riot (something Dems are already guilty of, not Reps) when (read: if) Biden gets in office. But don't you think that would've happened already? Instead, there was a mostly peaceful protest in DC (I say "mostly" because the left came along to counter protest).

Either way it goes, it's not good news. If you see Biden (read: Harris) in the White House you can expect the world to look a little more like 1984 (with a Republican Senate helping to keep the balance). If you see Trump re-elected a second term, expect the left to lose their minds and cause more mayhem like you've never seen before (summer will be a teaser). Grim times ahead no matter which way it goes.

Believe it or not, I didn't vote (I'm in a red state anyhow). Last and only time I've ever voted was for Ron Paul in 2008. That was because I was just beginning to wake up. So in 2012 and beyond, I haven't voted. And at least in honor of George Carlin, I never will again (although he was part of the "big club" as well). And how can I vote for a leader? Aren't I the leader of myself? Answer: yes. The Elite are always in control no matter what. It's up to individuals to wake up. Sheep will always sleep.

There are different levels of awakeness, however. While there's more truth on the right vs the left, check this shit out:

Conservatives are pissed at FOX NEWS, right? Switching over to places like Newsmax TV, right? Which I agree is better truth, but...

Newsmax TV = 33 in numerolgy

33 is the highest rank in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.

FOX = 666 in numerolgy

2020 ÷ 666 = 3.0330...

Clinton = 33
Kennedy = 33

Drumpf (Trump's surname) = 33
Orange = 33

Alex Jones= 33
Infowars = 33

The list goes on and on. The Elite are always in control. Which is why YOU have to be in control of YOU and YOUR LIFE.

But truth comes in baby steps. I myself started out as a Democrat/leftist/liberal (in other words, the bottom of the barrel). How far I've come...


The media in general are what's shaping the minds of the masses. It is the reason why they do not think for themselves.

https://youtu.be/q_hGKT5FI78

"The American people don't believe anything until they see it on television." - Richard Nixon

"If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're misinformed." - Mark Twain

https://i.postimg.cc/ZRs0Gvmr/chains.jpg

Wow, text on a picture in paint. Very impressive...

P.s. I knew fools like you wouldn't get it. Hence the baby steps where I'm basically only talking about left vs right. Mag is the reason I took a bigger step. You ain't nowhere close to ready!

Wouldn't be so bad if you were arguing with logic and science, but it's all highperbily and nonsense.

Your arguing that the box is a octigon when we all are clearly staring at a box.

Magnum wrote on 11/14/20 at 13:47:19:

If the Democrats have done all the fraud they supposedly done, then by all means lets burn them to the ground.

There's no fraud. He lost and is being a bitch about it. Plus, he wants to walk away from the white house going into whatever he does next with his cult intact, not thinking he's the loser that he is.

This is an Occam's Razor thing. What's most likely, that democrats had some widespread voting conspiracy (where they apparently opted to lose some critical congressional elections in the very states that Trump is claiming malfeasance) in the few specific turning point states that Biden won, and Trump has decided to not show any actual evidence because...?

OR, the guy who has a storied history of surrounding himself with sycophants who never tell him "no", and who has said that he has never been wrong or lost in his life, has lost fair and square, and this incredibly flawed man simply can't cope with that reality?

For what it's worth, I'm no Biden fan. I wish it was Sanders. And without the Senate, I don't expect many liberal policies like medicare for all or the green new deal are going to be enacted, but at least the descent into authoritarianism has been paused. I think we're going to have to settle for cleaning up the mess of the last 4 years.

I know how much it sucks when you're chosen candidate loses though, so at least for that I empathize with the right.

TwistedChains wrote on 11/16/20 at 22:22:38:

Wow, text on a picture in paint. Very impressive... P.s. I knew fools like you wouldn't get it. Hence the baby steps where I'm basically only talking about left vs right. Mag is the reason I took a bigger step. You ain't nowhere close to ready!

It takes a lot for me to think someone is dumber than Methid Man, but congrats, you're it. You own all the dumbs.

Why are there so many goddamn liberals on TMA? Perhaps the silent majority of conservatives aren't speaking up here? Why not? You're needed now more than ever. The left has no idea that it is Democrats that are seeking authoritarianism. Freedom is on the side of Republicans and Trump. Even Ron Fucking Paul is saying good things about Trump. Get your goddamn acts together!

Look, I'm going to prove that Democrats are for tyranny while Republicans are for freedom...

You ready?...

Ok, first of all, what does Biden and other Democrats want? Safety and security. Correct? They want face masks, lockdowns, etc. and whatever they can do to keep people safe and secure. Are we good so far? Sounds good? Nothing wrong or bad so far, correct?

Well, let's ask someone I think we can all pretty much respect (and hopefully agree with):

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/34/3b/be/343bbe05a4d07d2af7e6fc50a0fee18d.jpg


Ah... I see. Do you see it? Liberty/freedom has greater importance and significance over safety and security. And if you're having to give up freedoms for safety... then you deserve to have neither. And it's no secret that many people hate wearing masks. I mean, it restricts breathing and therefore freedom to breathe. Yes? And so much more and everyone knows it. Correct? Lockdowns make you a prisoner in your own home. This is how freedom dies, folks. It happens when you continue to give in just little... and then a little bit more... and a little bit more... and more and more until suddenly... you're completely enslaved. And you did it by choice. You asked for it... out of fear. And you did it when you didn't realize one thing: You were supposed to fear losing your freedom above all else! Simply put: if you want safety, then you do that for yourself. Don't ask the government to step in and mandate it for everyone. Don't make people who value freedom over the fear of the chance of maybe getting sick to come along with you and be a slave right along with you!

This country... The United States of America... was FOUNDED... with the IDEA... and the INTENTIONS... of LIVING IN A FREE LAND. Ok? "LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE." What does that mean to you Democrats and supporters of Democrats? Well, if you ask me, it means that the USA is a place to have and to experience FREEDOM and we are BRAVE and willing to FIGHT in order to remain FREE and to keep it that way. And I'll tell you what it isn't. It isn't: Land of the SAFE and home of the FEARFUL. No! Fuck that! That's BULLSHIT! But I'll tell you what... I wanna hear from the Democrats here on TMA: Does that sound good or better to you? Lemme repeat that question: Does SAFETY and FEAR sound good or better to you than FREE and BRAVE? I wanna know. I REALLY want to know. Because if you do feel that way: SHAME ON YOU! And what the FREAK are you doing in America?! Why are you trying to change what this country was founded and based upon? It was founded and based on FREEDOM! NOT SAFETY! Have you no shame? You Democrat supporters have NO IDEA what true authoritarianism is really about! 'Cause if you did, you wouldn't be a goddamn Democrat! Never. Under any circumstances. But seriously, if I haven't gotten through to you leftists yet, then I seriously want to know what you are down with: Is it: FREE and BRAVE... or... SAFE and FEARFUL? And whichever you choose, I wanna know why... and how... as in why and how in the fuck (if you choose the latter). But yes, serious question.

Of course Nightshade he's going to be a bitch about it. Why wouldn't he? It's in his character. That's also why I said "if" fraud has happened. There is so much information saying what is and isn't real, it's gotten very tiring. Biden wins fair and square, fine. If there was fraud by all means I would hope there'd be a correction and justice served. I wouldn't want Trump frauding the shit either. I would've rather it been Jo. :D At least that way if she won you'd know there was fraud.

The thing that I have seen the most is extreme lefts doing all the shit that doesn't make anything better. Nothing is solved burning shit down and looting, and I don't give a shit if your left or right. It's not going to solve anything. It's already bad enough small businesses are being strangled to death because of this lock down shit, and then people come along and torch it for whatever reason they have. Big corps can take the loss. Mom and pop shops can't. what I mean by big corps can take the loss is because loosing one or 2 stores won't hurt them. Loose the only one you got, you're fucked.

All I can say is after eating an extra foil sandwich with mercury sauce is China did a real fine job. Great timing. The whole world hasn't done shit about it, and millions are dead.

Still trying to decipher that radio signal from 1977. And to be honest, You can disagree with TC but, there is alot of shit going on now that isn't cool, and for us regular people there isn't much we can do about it. Just sayin. 

For those who haven't had a chance to watch the press conference with Trump's legal team because the legacy/liberal/lamestream media won't cover it (What are they afraid of?), here it is:

https://youtu.be/T8LiGZhK-bg

I honestly don't know how you can watch that and not think Trump is going to win. And he should, in my opinion, despite what the left may do as a reaction/retaliation. Why? Because Americans are brave. They don't cower, they're not fearful and they don't back down. They are willing to stand up to anyone who would dare oppose freedom - the very essence of America. At least that's how it was founded is supposed to be. So we'll see what happens; but I'm confident that Trump will win and therefore freedom and the American people will win this election.

https://youtu.be/bBr1--BntXA

The best thing to happen in 2020??... Probably Sidney Powell...

https://youtu.be/Y68pEknYyCM






https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif

Forgot one more thing. No matter what IMO the Democrats win. If Joe gets put in the white house and it was all good and not fraud, the Republicans will look really bad. If it is fraud him getting in and Joe is nulled, the left will loose their shit.

This is a no win situation for the USA overall.

Magnum wrote on 11/22/20 at 15:07:32:

Forgot one more thing. No matter what IMO the Democrats win. If Joe gets put in the white house and it was all good and not fraud, the Republicans will look really bad. If it is fraud him getting in and Joe is nulled, the left will loose their shit. This is a no win situation for the USA overall.

It is likely going to be more like the latter. Here is the left's hypocrisy bringing everything full circle:

https://youtu.be/yAuR68Dudko

That said, can you imagine what a second term, Trump presidency and it's supporters would be like (and probably will be like, based on what I'm seeing)? Trump would be able to focus more on his job and get things done much better than the first term. The conservatives would protect what they have; and they would have the second amendment along with law and order. The right would have the upper hand. And don't forget that Republicans will have a stronger presence in congress than it did before. The latter is actually the only win for USA because it's the only path that it would/will continue to exist and be something that at least can be supported and protected. We must support and protect the USA and it's Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. America must stand strong against opposition or there will be no America.

Liberal media claims no evidence of fraud. But...

https://youtu.be/46qpyvD-IPk

It just keeps surfacing (though the video says it was posted November 3rd. So this has been reported from the very beginning. However, leftist media would have you turn a blind eye to any truth or facts that don't support their narrative)...

You are a crazy person who hopes to find a narrative that makes you seem less crazy.
You know...so you can feel like you belong.

Thats why conspiracy theories get so popular.
*I know someothing you don't knoooooow*

Kilrgrn wrote on 11/22/20 at 22:33:03:

You are a crazy person who hopes to find a narrative that makes you seem less crazy. You know...so you can feel like you belong. Thats why conspiracy theories get so popular. *I know someothing you don't knoooooow*

For you to say that, you either don't comprehend what I've laid out in front of you or you haven't given it the time of day. That's fine if you don't have time, just keep your opinions to yourself if haven't given the information a chance.

With that said, calling something a "conspiracy theory" is just a way to dismiss something without giving it any thought or consideration of your own. Calling someone crazy is also dismissive because you're not trying to understand either me or the situation.

All you have to do is debate what I've laid out. It doesn't even have to be about me. Just focus on the topic.

Ok: narrative. Specifically, the legacy/liberal/lamestream media narrative. What do they say? That Joe Biden is president-elect. Ok, they ALL say that. But, is it true? Is it factual? No. It is not. First of all, (and I honestly feel like a broken record at this point) the media doesn't certify anyone; the electors do that (votes are still being counted and recounted). And even if they do, guess what? If enough fraud exists, that can be overturned. The big litigation is going to go through by Friday. So you're being premature again, Kilrgrn. Wait and see. People like Tucker Carlson don't realize that they don't get to look at every single piece of evidence before the courts do. So yes, there's a narrative. Trump hasn't conceded because there's literally no winner yet DESPITE WHAT THE MEDIA'S FUCKING NARRATIVE SAYS, ASSHOLE!

Speaking of sounding like a broken record, this is one of my favorite YouTube comments I've ever read:

"Debating leftists is like playing chess with pigeons: they tip over the pieces, crap all over the board and then scream that they have won."


Reminds me of this great moment:

https://youtu.be/wDYNVH0U3cs

Can't wait for the sequel...

TwistedChains wrote on 11/20/20 at 18:53:07:

Why are there so many goddamn liberals on TMA? Perhaps the silent majority of conservatives aren't speaking up here? Why not? You're needed now more than ever. The left has no idea that it is Democrats that are seeking.

I am no liberal,  but you're goddamn stupid.  Heaven help us if you're ever in charge of anything.

-Kilrahi- wrote on 11/23/20 at 05:47:33:

I am no liberal,  but you're goddamn stupid.  Heaven help us if you're ever in charge of anything.

Name-calling. Nothing of substance. Just a schoolyard insult. How about picking apart what I've said and laid out before you and everyone else? I've said a lot. You've said very little. Arguing with you is literally like arguing with a child. I won't do it. From now on, if ANYONE HERE cannot speak on anything of substance, I'm ignoring you. You're a waste of time. Stay on topic or shut the hell up! Mag, if you would be so kind, I wouldn't mind if you would delete comments that only contain insults and nothing of substance that's relevant to the topic. I don't actually mind insults if you have something of substance to say beforehand. But just dropping insults and leaving it at that is not what this thread is about. Don't just take a shit and leave... with your shitty insult. Back your shit up. Mag, if you don't mind, please clean up the clutter of shit around here when/if it happens. Drain the swamp! ;D

TwistedChains wrote on 11/23/20 at 10:09:26:

Name-calling. Nothing of substance. Just a schoolyard insult. How about picking apart what I've said and laid out before you and everyone else? I've said a lot. You've said very little. Arguing with you is literally like arguing with a child. I won't do it. From now on, if ANYONE HERE cannot speak on anything of substance, I'm ignoring you. You're a waste of time. Stay on topic or shut the hell up! Mag, if you would be so kind, I wouldn't mind if you would delete comments that only contain insults and nothing of substance that's relevant to the topic. I don't actually mind insults if you have something of substance to say beforehand. But just dropping insults and leaving it at that is not what this thread is about. Don't just take a shit and leave... with your shitty insult. Back your shit up. Mag, if you don't mind, please clean up the clutter of shit around here when/if it happens. Drain the swamp! ;D

You regurgitating other people's crap doesn't count as substance.  You post one original argument - and only one so we're not dealing with a complete vomit fest, and I'll debate your stupid ass into the ground.

-Kilrahi- wrote on 11/23/20 at 17:21:37:

You regurgitating other people's crap doesn't count as substance.  You post one original argument - and only one so we're not dealing with a complete vomit fest, and I'll debate your stupid ass into the ground.

Are you fucking retarded? I'm listening to the news as anyone else. The only difference is (and maybe you forgot what started this thread) I'm not listening to the lies of liberal media. That's why I gave a list of alternative sources for everyone to check out, numbnuts. What's original are my thoughts on the matter in addition to what I choose to share. There's lots of substance I've given my personal thoughts on and things I've shared that you can either agree or disagree about. I suppose you believe your insults are original. Please get the fuck out of this thread because you appear to have ZERO thoughts about anything of value and you don't have anything worth sharing. So, yes, please fuck off. Go hang out in the Fanfiction board since you seem to be some sort of Stan Lee, Todd McFarlane motherfucker. Yes, get out of here you motherfucker!

TwistedChains wrote on 11/23/20 at 22:57:53:

Are you fucking retarded?

Nope,  you're all alone there.

I  named my terms. Pick a point you want to debate asshat - ONE claim and once we've addressed it we can move on.

I'm tired of your word vomit all over this board. Any of us could copy and paste liberal or conservative articles all over the place. We don't do it because it's completely meaningless. Use your own brain or shut up.  Bloody hell you're lucky this place has a decades' long tradition of not censoring people,  no matter how pointless their contributions.

-Kilrahi- wrote on 11/23/20 at 17:21:37:

You regurgitating other people's crap doesn't count as substance.  You post one original argument - and only one so we're not dealing with a complete vomit fest, and I'll debate your stupid ass into the ground.

You seriously want to debate with this clown who worships someone who actually claimed Hugo Chavez, who's been dead for years, somehow rigged the election? (And you call me stupid) Speaking of whom,  she was recently disavowed by Team 45. What do you think of your hero now, TC?

When someone is this stupid, they're only worth getting a good laugh out of, not debating with them. Don't mud-wrestle with pigs.

Methid Man wrote on 11/24/20 at 16:30:17:

You seriously want to debate with this clown who worships someone who actually claimed Hugo Chavez, who's been dead for years, somehow rigged the election? (And you call me stupid) Speaking of whom,  she was recently disavowed by Team 45. What do you think of your hero now, TC? When someone is this stupid, they're only worth getting a good laugh out of, not debating with them. Don't mud-wrestle with pigs.

To be fair,  I said he was dummer than you and that you were dumb.

However,  I didn't actually say where I ranked.  :D

Quote:

Name-calling. Nothing of substance.

Post 1.


Quote:

Are you fucking retarded?

Post 2

>Runs away for 3 days straight :pepeLMAO:
Small pp energy.

Mag, if you would be so kind, I wouldn't mind if you would delete comments that only contain insults and nothing of substance that's relevant to the topic.

Bloody hell you're lucky this place has a decades' long tradition of not censoring people,  no matter how pointless their contributions.

Absolutely not. My eyebrow went up like Dwayne Johnson with that one. Not a chance I censor anyone that's gonna post on this board unless it's something really extreme, not because me or someone else don't like what's being said. BOTW is probably the absolute last place where you can use your 1st. I ain't taking that away.

Kinda insulted you'd think I'd do that. Not mad. Just disappointed.

TwistedChains wrote on 11/23/20 at 10:09:26:

Mag, if you would be so kind, I wouldn't mind if you would delete comments that only contain insults and nothing of substance that's relevant to the topic.

TwistedChains wrote on 11/23/20 at 22:57:53:

Are you fucking retarded? I'm listening to the news as anyone else. The only difference is (and maybe you forgot what started this thread) I'm not listening to the lies of liberal media. That's why I gave a list of alternative sources for everyone to check out, numbnuts. What's original are my thoughts on the matter in addition to what I choose to share. There's lots of substance I've given my personal thoughts on and things I've shared that you can either agree or disagree about. I suppose you believe your insults are original. Please get the fuck out of this thread because you appear to have ZERO thoughts about anything of value and you don't have anything worth sharing. So, yes, please fuck off. Go hang out in the Fanfiction board since you seem to be some sort of Stan Lee, Todd McFarlane motherfucker. Yes, get out of here you motherfucker!

"Free speech for me, not for thee". Look who's talking.

Hmmm... not sure if I should apologize for being gone for a few days. As I believe Mag and others have said many times in other boards/threads: this site is dead. Indeed, it is. All that's left, basically, is... well... the left. Nothing but liberals that have made up their minds to not have one. So what's the point? Why should I continue? The first post I made accomplishes the goal of this thread. As far as replying to the shit that has come afterwards and why I suddenly stopped like the counting of votes on November 3rd is simple: I got fucking busy, ok? Busier than usual, in fact. But I will spare the details. Life happens. Shit happens. And messing with the liberal fools here doesn't pay. I'm only sorry that it doesn't pay; but that'd be a shitty job anyhow, let's face it. Oh, but I do feel sorry for Mag... I don't envy his job here of moderating just a few, remaining liberals (especially not if it's for free). What a drag that must be... 😒

Anyways, I'm back for now... and maybe I'll address this thread for the last time. Afterall, if this site has been relegated to, essentially, just a few liberal minds buzzing around... then I really don't see the point of continuing with politics here.



-Kilrahi- wrote on 11/23/20 at 23:13:27:

Nope,  you're all alone there. I  named my terms. Pick a point you want to debate asshat - ONE claim and once we've addressed it we can move on.

That was a rhetorical question, numbnuts.

You have plenty of points to QUESTION if you want to debate (alternative vs legacy media, voter fraud, Joe Biden president non-elect, FREE and BRAVE vs SAFE and FEARFUL, etc. YOU choose.). The entire point of starting this thread was to share sources that would discuss things that the big, liberal media 'news' organizations are not willing to cover. It wasn't necessarily about looking for a debate. Am I willing to debate? Sure, bring it. But that's all on you. I already did what I originally intended, which is: share alternative sources to the legacy media.


Methid Man wrote on 11/24/20 at 16:30:17:

You seriously want to debate with this clown who worships someone who actually claimed Hugo Chavez, who's been dead for years, somehow rigged the election? (And you call me stupid) Speaking of whom,  she was recently disavowed by Team 45. What do you think of your hero now, TC?

I must say, it's very difficult for me to fathom the level of ignorance that you possess. But, otherwise, let's easily pick apart what you've just described: she never said Hugo Chavez rigged the current election. What she said, however, was that the same fraudulent, Dominion machines that were designed to get Chavez elected were also used in our election. Get your facts straight. You're dumber than even the typical liberal. And Sidney Powell is still a badass that still rides the Trump train. The Trump campaign simply announced that she's NOT OFFICIALLY part of the team. She still fights for Trump. However, she is independent. So if some corrupt Republicans go down with corrupt Democrats, so be it. She said she will let the chips fall where they may. Which, to me, is good. Great, in fact. Get rid of ALL the corrupt politicians. I respect her even more now. That's what I think about her.


TwistedChains wrote on 11/23/20 at 10:09:26:

Mag, if you would be so kind, I wouldn't mind if you would delete comments that only contain insults and nothing of substance that's relevant to the topic. I don't actually mind insults if you have something of substance to say beforehand. But just dropping insults and leaving it at that is not what this thread is about. Don't just take a shit and leave... with your shitty insult. Back your shit up. Mag, if you don't mind, please clean up the clutter of shit around here when/if it happens. Drain the swamp! ;D

Hey, that's me! Why, hello there! And look: I don't hate the 1st amendment! Matter of fact, I love it! And I love it for ALL!...


https://youtu.be/QUQsqBqxoR4

Disclaimer (for all of you numbnuts on here): No, the above music video is not mine. I had absolutely nothing to do with it's production and claim no type of ownership. Thanks, numbnuts.

Uh ohs... but nows I'm contradicting myself, right? OMG, how could I do such a thing?! And WHY?! Ain't I supposed to love freedom??!!... Well, yes, I do. But I also understand that under certain roofs are it's own rules. Mag, if you're telling me that the rules are that there basically ain't no rules in BOTW except for something really extreme (but what could be more extreme than the radical left?), then so be it. At least I can regulate my own life and choose not to come here and talk politics with a small, handful of mindless liberals.

TwistedChains wrote on 11/27/20 at 22:59:09:

That was a rhetorical question, numbnuts. .

It's obvious I knew that Twisted. I was just taking an opportunity to slam you.

You're really dense.


TwistedChains wrote on 11/27/20 at 22:59:09:

I already did what I originally intended, which is: share alternative sources to the legacy media..

You just came here to post links?

And in your mind that's some sort of noble ambition?

-Kilrahi- wrote on 11/27/20 at 23:43:28:

It's obvious I knew that Twisted. I was just taking an opportunity to slam you. You're really dense. You just came here to post links? And in your mind that's some sort of noble ambition?

This is exactly why I shouldn't waste my time here talking politics with you libtards. No, it's not obvious and, apparently, you even agreed with Methid Man who can't keep his facts straight and instead just sounds like he's talking straight out of his ass. Just so you know, you rank pretty goddamn low on the dumb scale, dude. I guess that's your opinion, however, if you think you slammed me.

And you goddamn right it's a noble ambition (Is there a rule, though, that says it has to be? At any rate, it took WORK to find a lot of those places! You bet your ass! That's why I shared them!)! With all of the truth and facts being suppressed, it's good that somebody brings them to light. Literally, the first post is a list of things to type in YouTube's search and not literal links. I'm honestly not sure if you really know that or not. You're lacking too much in enthusiasm and understanding and so I don't even know why you try to engage in conversation. YOU, the one who's supposed to be able to debate me into the ground. You haven't even questioned any points I've mentioned or beyond.

Again, waste of time. There's no need for debate when liberals can do no such thing. And don't tell me you're not a liberal when you're acting and talking just like one. You're a liberal. You probably just don't realize it. Not surprised.


Anyways, the first post is there for anyone trying to cut through the mainstream narrative. The liberal media will have you believe that you shouldn't question what they are presenting. But that is nonsense! You should question everything! Why not? Some things may be more than surface deep. Maybe your mind will change or maybe it won't... but QUESTION!!!

No way would you ever see a video like this from your big, liberal, 'news' networks:

https://youtu.be/vTlznb0Orfk

Disclaimer (for libtards): No, the above video is not mine. I did not produce the video and claim no type of ownership. Thanks, libtards.

Note (for libtards): I obviously gave my own, original words and thoughts before embedding a video at the end of this post in order to SUPPLEMENT my thoughts. Not that I shouldn't be able to simply share shit anyways if I wanted to, right? Share and then discuss? Right? Isn't that a possibility? Pretty sure that's possible. Thanks, libtards.

TwistedChains wrote on 11/28/20 at 14:54:04:

This is exactly why I shouldn't waste my time here talking politics with you libtards. No, it's not obvious and, apparently, you even agreed with Methid Man who can't keep his facts straight and instead just sounds like he's talking straight out of his ass. Just so you know, you rank pretty goddamn low on the dumb scale, dude. I guess that's your opinion, however, if you think you slammed me. And you goddamn right it's a noble ambition (Is there a rule, though, that says it has to be? At any rate, it took WORK to find a lot of those places! You bet your ass! That's why I shared them!)! With all of the truth and facts being suppressed, it's good that somebody brings them to light. Literally, the first post is a list of things to type in YouTube's search and not literal links. I'm honestly not sure if you really know that or not. You're lacking too much in enthusiasm and understanding and so I don't even know why you try to engage in conversation. YOU, the one who's supposed to be able to debate me into the ground. You haven't even questioned any points I've mentioned or beyond. Again, waste of time. There's no need for debate when liberals can do no such thing. And don't tell me you're not a liberal when you're acting and talking just like one. You're a liberal. You probably just don't realize it. Not surprised. Anyways, the first post is there for anyone trying to cut through the mainstream narrative. The liberal media will have you believe that you shouldn't question what they are presenting. But that is nonsense! You should question everything! Why not? Some things may be more than surface deep. Maybe your mind will change or maybe it won't... but QUESTION!!! No way would you ever see a video like this from your big, liberal, 'news' networks: https://youtu.be/vTlznb0Orfk Disclaimer (for libtards): No, the above video is not mine. I did not produce the video and claim no type of ownership. Thanks, libtards. Note (for libtards): I obviously gave my own, original words and thoughts before embedding a video at the end of this post in order to SUPPLEMENT my thoughts. Not that I shouldn't be able to simply share shit anyways if I wanted to, right? Share and then discuss? Right? Isn't that a possibility? Pretty sure that's possible. Thanks, libtards.

I'm not a liberal,  and this non liberal says you make no sense.

You claim you came here to share links - that's unbelievably stupid.

You also claim we're all liberals and too stupid to understand them anyway ...

So why share links?

You have serious psychological problems and should not be allowed on the streets.

-Kilrahi- wrote on 11/28/20 at 17:28:58:

I'm not a liberal,  and this non liberal says you make no sense. You claim you came here to share links - that's unbelievably stupid. You also claim we're all liberals and too stupid to understand them anyway ... So why share links? You have serious psychological problems and should not be allowed on the streets.

Ok, hopefully this is the last time...😒

Maybe you're not a liberal. Maybe you're just a RINO or never-Trumper. Either way, they're all the same. Other than saying a lot of dumb shit, you're really not giving me much to go on.

I shared sources in the very first post with not a single link. After that, the few remaining fools around here started pouring in... and when I fought back, then that is when I began embedding videos to either corroborate or supplement my posts. And that didn't even begin until my 5th post (and it's not like I was just sharing anything and everything. Not that there's a rule against that in BOTW if I were?). But this is all nonsense argument anyways. Why are you so worried about all of this insignificant shit? I had no idea this place was going to be full of morons (Mag excluded) about this shit until you guys began opening your mouths AFTER the first post. Yes, I took a gamble thinking that there'd be a few folks around here with some brains inside their skulls. That's why I shared those sources. I suppose you can complain to the mods if you'd like it taken down. You can fight for that the same as Trump's legal team and Sidney Powell are fighting for him and the integrity of the election. Other than that, who cares if you don't like links or whatever being shared and you think it's stupid. I don't like you and I think you're stupid, how's that? Fuck you. You knew what to expect when you clicked on the thread title: "Alternative media to the legacy media narrative..." Or at least you should have, numbnuts.

I honestly don't know what your problem is with me sharing shit on this website. I've seen plenty of other people sharing shit in other threads. Do you complain about those as well? Talk about psychological problems...

I only complain when someone claims to be some amazing example of intelligence, but in fact has the electrical capacity of a pile of shit.

You're the one calling millions of people stupid.  That kind of practice will always make you both not endearing and quickly approaching par with all of history's greatest douche bags.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/e1/67/5de16759edfdd5e5e004fa54c00e939c.jpg

Nah, I can blend in...

Pahahahaha, get a load of this guy! XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSoVAhBfIQo
Bye-bye, Trump
Bye-bye, mindlessness
Hello, kindliness
I'm so happy I could die

Bye-bye, Trump
Bye-bye, arrogance
Hello competence
I'm so happy I could cry

Goodbye to chaos
and alternate facts
Goodbye anxiety
and panic attacks

Hello, euphoria
and tranquility
Hello, new age of civility

Bye-bye, Trump
Bye-bye, abusiveness
Hello, inclusiveness
I'm so happy I could die

Bye-bye, Trump
Bye-bye, mendacity
Hello, veracity
I'm so happy I could cry

Goodbye, glass ceiling,
you won't be missed
Hello to DREAMers
and scientists

Farewell to stupid tweets
and right-wing cults
Let's give the country back
to the adults (here we go now)

Bye-bye, Trump
Bye-bye, years of hell
Hello, prison cell
I'm so happy I could cryyyyyy

Hello, Joe
Hello, Kamala
Goodbye, dramala
It's the dawn of a new day
The nightmare's going away
Goodbye to Michael Pence
Hello to common sense
Goodbye Alex Azar
And up yours, William Barr

He wants so badly to claim oppression (In this case from censorship from the lib media) yet you want Mag to delete the thoughts of those you're trying to convince. :weirdchamp:

Why do you think you're a master of free thought when you only link youtube videos?



PS
Methid Man that video is fucking cringe tho ngl OMEGALUL:

Just so we're clear...

For those who are interested, the last day to purchase Super Mario 3D All Stars for the Nintendo Switch is March 31st. After that day, the game (actually, 3 full games!) will no longer be available for purchase again. That includes both physical and digital copies; so be sure to secure the game by that day (this is a limited release by Nintendo). IMO, it would be best to purchase at least one of each (both physical and digital versions) while you still can!


https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/6414/6414104_sd.jpg

Here are some links to the trailer for Super Mario 3D All Stars for those who maybe haven't seen it or want to see it again! Enjoy!:


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7w39i7

https://vimeo.com/454446688

https://youtu.be/CPJcaGWoO2c

Ummmm....I am a moron.

No likes anyone who steals their Apple juice and gives them dirty underwear sandwiches with extra fart sauce.

With a little bowl butt dribble for desert. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lRfVS_aNX8

This is probably pointless but, I honestly don't know wtf to think anymore.

Uhhh, you ok there TC??

Do you need to. . talk about it?  :(

Well, Mario certainly has proved as a testament that things really are allowed to go off the rails here...

No one has debated against Mario because... how can you? If there were rules here in BOTW, we could probably have a healthier debate. Instead, it's like the wild west or ghetto up in here. Mag, you are right: it's pointless. I'm all for free speech; but there are always limits even in society. Words that incite violence, for instance. And when you are on private property, such as a business, there are it's own rules. Those rules can apply so long as they don't single out 1 group of people aka discrimination. BOTW can have rules if desired. A healthy debate needs a proper balance of free speech and rules. One extreme or the other does not work well. Certainly, if I had to choose 1 extreme, it would be full on free speech. But SOME rules are good... but not TOO MUCH.


Here, in our current situation, you can see we have TOO MUCH (courtesy of the left):

https://youtu.be/mvvnOY3URBo


Indeed, there will be a time soon enough when places like YouTube will need to be completely abandoned...

https://i.imgur.com/leymwyW.png

So here's the conclusion: this is a shitty board to talk about anything serious.

Only shitposts are allowed. Otherwise, they'll be met with such things as dank memes used by shitposters like Adonael.

That is the lesson of this thread, apparently...

I mean honestly you just sound like a jumbled mess of buzzwords, shot out of woodchipper

but go off I guess..

Kilrgrn wrote on 12/13/20 at 09:31:00:

I mean honestly you just sound like a jumbled mess of buzzwords, shot out of woodchipper but go off I guess..

https://christiancounseling.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/les2.gif

TwistedChains wrote on 12/12/20 at 22:37:11:

So here's the conclusion: this is a shitty board to talk about anything serious. Only shitposts are allowed. Otherwise, they'll be met with such things as dank memes used by shitposters like Adonael. That is the lesson of this thread, apparently...

Quality content earns quality content, and the opposite also gets the same reciprocity. A law of the universe really.

Magnum wrote on 12/06/20 at 16:12:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lRfVS_aNX8 This is probably pointless but, I honestly don't know wtf to think anymore.

The problem, Magnum, with that video is the narrator is telling you what to think. They don't actually prove people were told to leave, they don't prove anything was being stuffed, they don't demonstrate what those alleged ballots say or what was done to them . . . they just put scary thoughts over top of a highly edited video and when you actually slow down to fact check it you find out it was nothing at all.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/video-doesnt-show-suitcases-of-illegal-ballots-in-georgia/

-Kilrahi- wrote on 12/13/20 at 20:53:09:

Quality content earns quality content, and the opposite also gets the same reciprocity. A law of the universe really.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/4e/87/bb4e873919dc91af142c9819e572e4f5.gif

https://media2.giphy.com/media/Vneys3wPnPCy5KC6Ag/giphy.gif

We both get information from sources that are controlled, or possibly might have bias. I'm pretty certain we can agree on that. It's not like me or Kilrahi can just wait for books to made while present history moves along. All these current events are being reported in whatever flavor of text people might want to cling to. I posted Tim's video because overall, he really tries to be middle road. Alot like I do. He calls out what he finds. He even applauded the Left for raising money for that Red house they made a zone out of but, condemned the zone and it's use of weapons.

Fact checkers is honestly a very scary thing to me. Because they were not "suitcases" and they are "ballot boxes" the action involving them is null? Also the the conflicting reports of no other means of observation were there to observe those ballots being counted regardless of if they were told told to go, or willingly left? even when the law of Georgia says there has to be observers there?

If this is the case considering watching the video in question, and since it has now long been scrutinized, picked apart and told to be false, I personally would love to try something in real life, but don't have the balls (or sense) to try.

I'll walk into a bank with a squirt gun and a note. The note will read I have a gun but it's fake so don't worry. I just want all the money in here so I can give it to "charity"

At my trial I will point out that my "gun" isn't real, and my intentions were no harm, and that I was planning on using the money to give to charity with no personal gain.   

I'd hope that everything that I said was checked and was proven to be true. Should be able to just waltz outta court on that.

The point is, all of those things you point to as concerns in that video only come FROM that video.

If they tell you no one was there - why do you assume no one was there? 

The people who made that video aren't experts - they weren't even there.

This is what made up stuff looks like. People who weren't at an event doctoring a video and putting spooky thoughts over it. It means nothing, and until they can give you more concrete information about it there is ZERO reason to give it any time of day.



Edit: And I keep seeing so many people getting freaked out about fact checkers. Why? Because someone actually does their damn homework instead of just believing bullshit? People should only be annoyed at fact checkers if they can point to something in the fact checker analysis that is wrong. If they can't do that ,and so far no one I ever see can - then they should admit their story is likely bullshit and shouldn't be believed and move on.


I do tend to like Tim though, even if lately he seems to be slipping into more of a narrative driven news approach rather than trying to stay detached and unbiased.

In your fact checkers column, it says that a bunch of people were not told to go home or stop counting. I've seen reports and videos of the report you posted. That report said the only people that were there were those in the video and that those ballot boxes were already seen by observers, but the video I show says otherwise. This is why things are so murky.

If this is what made up stuff looks like, then there is nothing stopping anyone from making up anything they please regardless of "proof" or doctoring no matter what "side" they are on. If giving things an absolute zero to any evidence to any side means an absolute impasse that gives no one any solutions to wrong doing.

That is the dangerous slope I'm talking about. Nothing is true even with proof.    

Magnum wrote on 12/15/20 at 14:54:26:

In your fact checkers column, it says that a bunch of people were not told to go home or stop counting. I've seen reports and videos of the report you posted. That report said the only people that were there were those in the video and that those ballot boxes were already seen by observers, but the video I show says otherwise. This is why things are so murky. If this is what made up stuff looks like, then there is nothing stopping anyone from making up anything they please regardless of "proof" or doctoring no matter what "side" they are on. If giving things an absolute zero to any evidence to any side means an absolute impasse that gives no one any solutions to wrong doing. That is the dangerous slope I'm talking about. Nothing is true even with proof.

That's precisely why logic requires that the extraordinary opinion (in this case the people claiming fraud) be the ones to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was fraud.

If you don't follow that rule in your personal life you'll be subject to believing anything, because it is literally possible to prove that something NEVER happened. I can't prove to you there is no Santa Clause. That's literally impossible. It's the job of someone asking you to believe in Santa Clause to prove without question he exists.

Right now I could film a bag in my closet and share it on Facebook with a caption that said, "Breaking, proof of voter fraud!!!" Tons of people would believe it and likely share it. That's garbage, that's no way to live life.

These people have been given ample time to prove their claims, and at every opportunity they have nothing. The emperor has no clothes. You can look up the original sources if you really want to - Trump has now done numerous lawsuits and those lawsuits are available for people to look up. When you do, they didn't have any actual evidence of anything. This is a house of cards.

I can't prove to you there is no Santa Clause. That's literally impossible. It's the job of someone asking you to believe in Santa Clause to prove without question he exists.

If that's the case, then the ones claiming there is no fraud have nothing to worry about. Then the same holds true for the people who claim Jesus exists or the Easter Bunny.

I have really tried to look at both sides of this with impartial view. I don't like the Left as much as I don't like the Right. Obviously like I've said previously in this thread, being in the middle holds no position at all.

Magnum wrote on 12/15/20 at 17:19:22:

I can't prove to you there is no Santa Clause. That's literally impossible. It's the job of someone asking you to believe in Santa Clause to prove without question he exists. If that's the case, then the ones claiming there is no fraud have nothing to worry about. Then the same holds true for the people who claim Jesus exists or the Easter Bunny. I have really tried to look at both sides of this with impartial view. I don't like the Left as much as I don't like the Right. Obviously like I've said previously in this thread, being in the middle holds no position at all.

Well, the power of mobs believing things, even without evidence, has proven to be one of the most dangerous things our planet has ever faced.

Most of history's greatest tragedies were brought about by that kind of scenario.

I've always held a large mutual respect for you Kilrahi. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree is all.

You can still sniff the undies if you want. That'd never change.

Magnum wrote on 12/16/20 at 14:01:41:

I've always held a large mutual respect for you Kilrahi. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree is all. You can still sniff the undies if you want. That'd never change.

Same. You should come join our Discord sometime. We talk all the time. It's more like the old TMA. You can still keep this boat afloat as well.

I agree with Kilrahi that the burden of proof is on the one making the claim.

I don't agree with him that the TMA discord is like the old TMA, though.

Methid Man wrote on 12/19/20 at 02:11:45:

I don't agree with him that the TMA discord is like the old TMA, though.

Eh..... I suppose you're right.

Steps to avoid news:

1. See rock.

2. Live under it.

3. Profit.

The GOP has finally overdosed on ignorance.

It happened on Jan 6th of this year and they refuse to give it up.

Now we get to watch them eat themselves.  :D

And Fox News is a terrorist organization.
Encouraging their viewers to confront woman and children who wear masks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/tucker-carlson-masks-child-abuse/2021/04/27/aa7c0844-a752-11eb-bca5-048b2759a489_story.html

And any Senator who voted for Trump at his second impeachment trail is a traitor.

Thumpy wrote on 05/16/21 at 17:57:52:

And Fox News is a terrorist organization. Encouraging their viewers to confront woman and children who wear masks.

Getting a bit hyperbolic here . . .

Fear is what terrorists use.

Fox has done this for decades.

You may have a point Kil, Fox has never used bombs and weapons so far.

Is 'Fascist Propaganda Machine' a more realistic term?

Fascist?

No.

Propaganda? There's def times that happens, but same with MSNBC, CNN, etc.

Fox is an arm of the GOP which is now turning Fascist.

Thumpy wrote on 06/14/21 at 23:50:28:

Fox is an arm of the GOP which is now turning Fascist.

You keep using the word "fascist," but I'm not convinced you know what that word means.

I think I'd rather describe the GOP as a cluster of megalomaniacs of the nth degree. Radically charged and dangerously reckless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

I know what it means Kil.

Trump tried to stay in power the same way Hitler got into power by disrupting the transfer of power, thank goodness it failed.

Remember when Trump tried to restrict the media, only allowing FOX to enter some of his events.

Voter suppression, hate speeches its all there just what Hitler did.

Mardock who owns FOX bought National Geografic and other educational History shows to raise a nation that is ignorant of history.
Now we get psychists and space aliens and 'WHAT IFS', no facts just fantasy shows.

A stupid uneducated nation to be brainwashed I know it sounds like something from a movie but this is all true.

Real sad.

Thumpy wrote on 06/28/21 at 11:17:20:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism I know what it means Kil. Trump tried to stay in power the same way Hitler got into power by disrupting the transfer of power, thank goodness it failed. Remember when Trump tried to restrict the media, only allowing FOX to enter some of his events. Voter suppression, hate speeches its all there just what Hitler did. Mardock who owns FOX bought National Geografic and other educational History shows to raise a nation that is ignorant of history. Now we get psychists and space aliens and 'WHAT IFS', no facts just fantasy shows. A stupid uneducated nation to be brainwashed I know it sounds like something from a movie but this is all true. Real sad.

Hitler killed millions of Jews and started the costliest war in human history. There's clearly not a 1 to 1 there.

I think you got a lot of fallacies going on there,  but your biggest is probably jumping from the plural (Gop) to the singular (Trump) but still largely extrapolating to the plural.

Hitler started his shit in the early 1930's and look what happened over the next 15 or so years.
When Hitler got into power he DID NOT kill anyone at that time.
One thing leads to another.
All I'm saying is that Trump was using HITLERS'S playbook to get the power he wanted, but failed at the point when he tried to make himself a strawman dictator.
Hitler did much of what Trump did before he took over Germany.
The GOP will stay on this coarse because their retarded hillbilly base is too stupid and lazy to adapt to anything else.
Just do and believe anything the strawman says, don't need a brain for that!!!!!!!!!!!

Except one thing clearly didn't lead to another.  I might as well claim you're Hitler because you were both born.

Someone clearly didn't read his history books.

-Kilrahi- I have known you for a long time now and I know you are smart and capable of learning things.

Your are right, Trump and Hitler were not the same, one wore a suit and the other a military uniform.

There were four similarities.

1. SCAPEGOATING
2. MEDIA CO-OPTATION
3. PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATIONS
4. EMERGENCY LAWS

Number 1 - SCAPEGOATING

Scapegoating was a Nazi maneuver to blame minority groups for policy failures and the weak economy. Trump has blamed foreigners and minorities for taking away jobs and killing Americans, but we need to see if this rhetoric from the campaign trail continues once he takes office.

Moreover, Nazi ideologues drew connections between their adversaries: to them, Marxists were essentially Jews, and Jews were connected to big money, so they alleged a global conspiracy against “racial” Germans — the “Jüdisch-Bolschewistische Weltverschwörung.” The equivalent today — an invented conspiracy of Trump’s domestic critics, minorities and international adversaries — would be a clear parallel and warning sign.

Trump has continued to blame foreign and domestic enemies for his policy failures. China has been blamed for the COVID-19 pandemic. Domestically, violent Anarchists, left-wing cancel culture, and the “deep state” have been blamed. Trump has never connected these dots into a Nazi-style world conspiracy, but his most ardent followers have. In the popular QAnon conspiracy theory, a child-abusing, state-run conspiracy, composed of global elites, is responsible for a wide array of social problems. Such conspiracy theories were not originally proposed by Trump, but he has embraced them, by drawing a “Q” in the air, referring to the state department as the “deep state department”, and by proposing that his reelection was stolen by a conspiracy. In summary, Trump has relied heavily on scapegoating.

Number 2-MEDIA CO-OPTATION

Media co-optation (“Gleichschaltung”) proceeded in two steps in Nazi Germany: extending ideological command over the media where possible and shutting down those media outlets Hitler could not control. In the United States today, this type of autocratic control would be virtually impossible, though attempts at censorship are imaginable. Trump has had openly hostile relations with major newspapers such as the New York Times and The Washington Post, and threatened legal action during the campaign. The role of social media in the election points to future possible points of contention. One factor that contributed in some part to Trump’s victory was propaganda containing false but factual-sounding statements that discredited Hillary Clinton on social media.

Facebook has announced that it will do more fact-checking on trending stories. Mass-media technology has changed dramatically since the 1930s — and Trump has no legal basis to shut down critical outlets. But legal quarrels between his administration, the media and social networks would be a red flag, and a threat to the First Amendment.

Four years later, the struggle over fact-checking has prevailed. Trump has repeatedly lashed out at reporters by calling them “Fake News”. He also attempted to silence critics on Twitter and sued the New York Times. The largest and most consequential attempt at media co-optation came with proposed changes to legislation that could eliminate fact-checking from the Internet. Under U.S.C. section 230, online publishers, such as social media companies, are protected from liability for presenting, but also restricting information provided by third parties. This legislation allows Twitter and Facebook to label published information as disputed or not trustworthy. If repealed without replacement, labeling something as factually incorrect could be result in costly lawsuits. Even after having lost the election, Trump threatened to veto military funding unless Section 230 was repealed. Calling Trump’s word into question would have been financially impossible for most providers, had this attempt been successful. In this sense, Trump has attempted media-cooptation.

Number 3 - PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATIONS

Paramilitary organizations were also part of the Nazi effort to boost national-majority cohesion. The “Sturmabteilung” (SA) violently attacked and intimidated adversaries, most notably on “Kristallnacht” in 1938, when they carried out large-scale attacks on Jews and political opponents. Thus far, the president-elect’s reaction to post-election racial violence and harassment has been a call to “stop it!” Trump rejected an endorsement from a KKK-linked newspaper before the election, but continued praise from former KKK leader David Duke leaves many Americans concerned about the potential for a rise in SA-type activities. Even more alarming would be any indication that the U.S. government would tolerate violence or racial intimidation from white supremacist groups.

In the wake of the attacks on the Capitol on January 6, direct comparisons to Kristallnacht and Hitler’s early violent power grab, the “Beer Hall Putsch” have been drawn by US politicians. Earlier than that, Trump has refused to condemn deadly right-wing attacks: after the Charlottesville car attack, Trump commented there were “very fine people on both sides”. Instead of rejecting paramilitary organizations threatening violence, Trump simply asked the “Proud Boys” to “stand down”. The threat of paramilitary violence coming from QAnon, local militias, and anti-BLM vigilantes was part of his presidency and culminated in a deadly attack on the US capitol, directly instigated by Trump. However, there is one important difference to Nazi Germany: Trump did not organize and directly control paramilitary organizations, labor service, and youth indoctrination. The Nazis did that with the SA, the Reichsbund organizations, and the Hitler Youth.

Number 4 - EMERGENCY LAWS
Emergency laws came about in Germany after the 1933 arson attack on the Reichstag (Germany’s parliament). Hitler used the threat of terrorism and foreign aggression to justify sweeping autocratic policies, including the 1933 Enabling Act (which let the government issue laws without the Reichstag). Similarly, the Reichstag Fire Decree in 1933 gave Hitler the power to suspend most Germans’ political and individual rights, effectively outlawing opposition parties. Changing the U.S. Constitution to abolish elections and remove freedom of speech is hardly imaginable. The United States has an uninterrupted democratic history, while Hitler was able to tap into nostalgia for the times under the last German emperor. But the United States has had similar measures in place since Sept. 11, 2001, which have boosted government surveillance while limiting checks and balances on domestic policing and the use of military force.

Trump has attempted to directly control politics while circumventing checks and balances on multiple occasions. However, the US has not seen an abolition of checks and balances comparable to the Enabling Act. Instead, “ruling by decree” was a constant element of his presidency, starting with banning Muslims from entering the country and mobilizing the National Guard during BLM protests. Additionally, he prompted to designate ANTIFA a terrorist organization, which in turn would have lowered legal barriers for employment of force.

With regard to international conflict, the picture is mixed. Trump has made good on his promise to not start a war, but he has come very close at times. Tensions with North Korea increased early on in his presidency, culminating in threats of “fire and fury” and dismissing Steve Bannon for his  observation that there is no military option for the Korean peninsula. The assassination of high-ranking Iranian General Qasem Soleimani brought the countries to the brink of war, and retaliatory strikes were conducted against a US base in Iraq.

Do you know what neofascism means -Kilrahi-?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-gop-strategist-who-once-worked-for-giuliani-says-the-republican-party-under-trump-has-basically-embraced-neofascism/ar-AALPDIS?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Thumpy wrote on 07/06/21 at 11:18:50:

-Kilrahi- I have known you for a long time now and I know you are smart and capable of learning things. Your are right, Trump and Hitler were not the same, one wore a suit and the other a military uniform. There were four similarities. 1. SCAPEGOATING 2. MEDIA CO-OPTATION 3. PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATIONS 4. EMERGENCY LAWS

You can come up with tons of similarities, but just as horses and mice are both mammals,  at the end of the day it's the differences that matter most.  More that 50 million dead being the most obvious. 

Kilrahi-

Two people get cancer, one ignores it and dies.
The other does not ignore it, gets it cut out, and does NOT DIE.

(Hitler, Trump) = CANCER

On November 2020 the people of THE UNITED STATES cut out the cancer

So the cancer in the second patient was different from the first patient cause it never got a chance to kill the patient?
REALLY?
Is that your point?

No. 

My point is you're extremely hyperbolic.

hyperbolic?

mmmmm.............no I don't think so.

Thumpy wrote on 07/07/21 at 07:51:09:

hyperbolic? mmmmm.............no I don't think so.

People who are hyperbolic rarely do.

In fact, I don't think I ever met one who realized they were.

You can write paragraphs about how you think these two are alike, but it is highly delusional.

Issue is the beliefe was covid originated in China, not just by Trump but others as well.

Trump didn't use a minority or a race as his sacrificial lamb, blaming all our woes on the Chinese like Hitler did the jews.

Do I think he was a brash idiot and didn't have tact for speaking with couth, and I'd be the last person to support the dude, but he was not or anything like Hitler.

His election did bring out the ugly side of this country though. Seeing and old man get beat almost to death for wearing a MAGA hat, and other racist parties, but he never mobilized this to try and take over the country like a lot of you claim.

†Adonael wrote on 07/07/21 at 21:10:34:

You can write paragraphs about how you think these two are alike, but it is highly delusional. Issue is the beliefe was covid originated in China, not just by Trump but others as well. Trump didn't use a minority or a race as his sacrificial lamb, blaming all our woes on the Chinese like Hitler did the jews. Do I think he was a brash idiot and didn't have tact for speaking with couth, and I'd be the last person to support the dude, but he was not or anything like Hitler. His election did bring out the ugly side of this country though. Seeing and old man get beat almost to death for wearing a MAGA hat, and other racist parties, but he never mobilized this to try and take over the country like a lot of you claim.

Kind of spring boarding off here - I didn't vote for Trump in any election. In fact, I would be willing to say that to the best of my knowledge, he's the worst President in US history (though I gotta say, Biden is doing an amazing job of catching up).

Nevertheless, comparing him to Hitler is asinine and bonkers. Thumpy, you promoted a THEORY that if he'd been left in office he would have gone to the same lengths that Hitler did, but while that's POSSIBLE - the evidence says it's extremely unlikely.

An arrogant SOB who didn't want to let go of power? Sure. Willing or even interested in killing millions upon millions for racist beliefs? There's really not a lot of evidence for that and in fact it's here where if you compare him to Hitler - the DIFFERENCES, which is what I was talking about - really start to show themselves.

One of the US's biggest problems right now is incredibly vitriolic and hyperbolic partisanship. It doesn't help anybody and it makes it virtually impossible for us to reach across the aisle and connect with the other side.

Trump can be both a BAD President AND not at all like Hitler. That's where I think the truth lies. Some on here may think he's great, but that's where I fall. Instead you get hardcore right wing saying he's the greatest ever, and hardcore leftists claiming he gives Satan a run for his money. Both positions are pretty extreme and easy to disprove.

I sincerely agree with everything you just said Kil.

But I do believe he was using Hilter's playbook and the basic mobster playbooks to obtain power but failed like everything he ever did in his life, he can't even run a casino.

We almost lost our democracy on Jan 6th and FOX NEWS is whitewashing the whole thing. Just another friendly protest march.

We can't forget the fact that we almost lost our democracy which would have been much worse than Biden loosing the election fairly to Trump.

Once we loose democracy it will be a long time to get it back not to mention all the blood and misery.



Fucking whining, retarded orange bloated baby asshole and his Cult 45 of zombie redneck loosers.