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Message started by Rab1d on 05/02/18 at 13:00:10

Title: People still play!
Post by Rab1d on 05/02/18 at 13:00:10
I was going to sell my PS3 and decided to play some TM for nostalgia sake....then I notice people still play TMX online! Wow, I may have to give this game a 2nd chance.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/02/18 at 13:20:10
If you found out people were having enema parties, would you give those a second chance too?

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/02/18 at 13:23:18
Ah, so you're the one who joined our lobby just a few minutes ago. Nice. I heard you were pretty decent in the early months. Sorry that room you joined wasn't very accomodating, there were a lot high-skill players in that lobby. If you're interested in playing again feel free to hit me up, I'll gladly give you a crash course and see what I can do to whip you into shape.  ;D

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/02/18 at 13:26:54

Muddeh wrote on 05/02/18 at 13:23:18:
Ah, so you're the one who joined our lobby just a few minutes ago. Nice. I heard you were pretty decent in the early months. Sorry that room you joined wasn't very accomodating, there were a lot high-skill players in that lobby. If you're interested in playing again feel free to hit me up, I'll gladly give you a crash course and see what I can do to whip you into shape.  ;D


He didn't play in the early months.


Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/02/18 at 14:05:17

Malefactor wrote on 05/02/18 at 13:26:54:
He didn't play in the early months.

Just chatted for a bit on PSN and confirmed he did play in the early months.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/02/18 at 14:15:10
Check out this little gem, a full eight months after the game came out:

http://temp.tmalliance.com/?num=1372698306/11#11

After that he played sporadically and not very much at all for at best a handful of weeks.

There's simply no way he would have had any kind of real reputation with you or anybody else.

Hiliarious.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/02/18 at 14:20:27
Correction . . . and yeah, this is a third reply just because the point needs driven home.

I just realized Rabid's post was for October twenty-THIRTEEN.

TM:2012 came out in, well fuck, 2012.

So this debut post was ONE YEAR and eight momths.

Even more hilarious.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/02/18 at 14:25:12
His RabidTMA account has trophies from launch day. Feel free to count how many times his name comes up in this thread regarding players in the early months.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/02/18 at 14:31:33

Muddeh wrote on 05/02/18 at 14:25:12:
His RabidTMA account has trophies from launch day. Feel free to count how many times his name comes up in this thread regarding players in the early months.


Bizarre . . . and yet his debut post way later exists too.

Strange that you would latch on to the rantings of Thumpy as some how a reputational piece worth noting.

Yet, there is the Rabid TMA. Schizophrenic or multiple personality disorder?

Either way, fair enough.  You win this round, but you keep patting each other on the ass about your skillz and I'll spit in your eye.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Magnum on 05/02/18 at 19:22:38
Before this goes off the rails.

Rabid is an original Member from the original TMA website. He was also not just a very skilled player in TMBO, but he was also a very active poster too. As far as his participation in TMPS3, I can't even speculate.

Good to see another familiar "Veteran" of TMA post.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/02/18 at 22:17:04

Magnum wrote on 05/02/18 at 19:22:38:
Before this goes off the rails.

Rabid is an original Member from the original TMA website. He was also not just a very skilled player in TMBO, but he was also a very active poster too. As far as his participation in TMPS3, I can't even speculate.

Good to see another familiar "Veteran" of TMA post.


Honestly, this could be a very good thing. Rabid, since apparently you can stomach it, get in there and prove it doesn't take long or much to hang in their little game.

You'll be a hero. Like, John Doe style.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Rab1d on 05/03/18 at 02:06:58
Hey Magnum! Cool to see there are still some old school guys kicking around.

As for becoming a pro at TMX I doubt that is going to happen, at least not for a long time. My gaming time these days is super limited, I just want to go out and shoot some shit.  I know TMX isn't the best game in the series but I definitely miss twisting some metal. I had a lot more fun playing yesterday than I've had with any PS4 or PC games in the last few years.


As for my account information. Back in the day I made a new e-mail for TMX specifically so that I could use the screenname RabidTMA. Unfortunately I have no idea what that e-mail is. If I could figure out the e-mail then I could probably get the password.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/03/18 at 02:48:36

Rab1d wrote on 05/03/18 at 02:06:58:
Hey Magnum! Cool to see there are still some old school guys kicking around.

As for becoming a pro at TMX I doubt that is going to happen, at least not for a long time. My gaming time these days is super limited, I just want to go out and shoot some shit.  I know TMX isn't the best game in the series but I definitely miss twisting some metal. I had a lot more fun playing yesterday than I've had with any PS4 or PC games in the last few years.


As for my account information. Back in the day I made a new e-mail for TMX specifically so that I could use the screenname RabidTMA. Unfortunately I have no idea what that e-mail is. If I could figure out the e-mail then I could probably get the password.


Just an fyi, and you probably know, but Roadie and many others play on a reborn TMBO server. I'm sure they'd love to have you. PS2's can usually be found on Facebook garage sale forums for $20.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by The Truth on 05/03/18 at 04:46:18

Muddeh wrote on 05/02/18 at 13:23:18:
Ah, so you're the one who joined our lobby just a few minutes ago. Nice. I heard you were pretty decent in the early months. Sorry that room you joined wasn't very accomodating, there were a lot high-skill players in that lobby.


Why do you dumb asses continue to kick and not let people play with because you don't know them or deem them noob/lesser skilled? How are they suppose to become "high skilled" if they can't play in "high skill" games? Why would you chase away people who are potentially "high skill" players or would be part of the hardcore TM 2012 online community? Especially now when I'm sure the online population is small and shrinking. The irony is some of you guys called us elitists for simply stating why TM 2012 was inferior compared to TMBO/TM2PC. Meanwhile you guys ended up being actual elitists.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/03/18 at 05:17:21

The Truth wrote on 05/03/18 at 04:46:18:
Why do you dumb asses continue to kick and not let people play with because you don't know them or deem them noob/lesser skilled? How are they suppose to become "high skilled" if they can't play in "high skill" games? Why would you chase away people who are potentially "high skill" players or would be part of the hardcore TM 2012 online community? Especially now when I'm sure the online population is small and shrinking. The irony is some of you guys called us elitists for simply stating why TM 2012 was inferior compared to TMBO/TM2PC. Meanwhile you guys ended yo being actual elitists.


It's freaking baffling on a number of levels. Who would have thought that Twisted Metal's darkest game has the most welcoming fanbase?

Clearly if Jesus were to play a Twisted Metal game, he'd choose Twisted Metal: Black.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/03/18 at 07:53:15
What are you even talking about? He wasn't booted. He entered a 3v3 lobby and I chatted with him via in-game chat for about ten minutes, after which we asked him to choose Sweet Bot and fly to a roof to spectate a match since others were waiting and the match would have been unbalanced if he played.

Following that match concluded he left saying he'd be back later, and I assume he joined another lobby that was up for a short bit with lower-skilled players (at least I assume that lobby was still up since I had been at the lobby browser twenty minutes before then).

After one more match our lobby parted for the night, then him and I chatted for half an hour or so afterwards and I have offered to help train him myself so he could have a chance at holding his own in competitive lobbies. Outside of disbanding our lobby the moment he came in, it really couldn't have been more accommodating.

PROTIP: Your blind commentary only comes off as pretentious and petty.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by The Truth on 05/03/18 at 09:42:06
You know damn well what I'm talking about. Your "high skill" rooms boot people that aren't known or are deemed noobs. In your defense, maybe its not you personally doing it but it is your "high skill" clique of players. I personally haven't been on the server in years. However when I was any time I joined the "high skill" I was kicked and seen other people kicked almost immediately. Besides that I've seen various posts on TMA over the years about it and have heard from more TMA people that it was a common occurrence.

Based on that I figured he was kicked when I seen your response about the room not being "very accommodating". How nice of you guys to let him spectate from the rooftops. Is there just not many people playing these days? Were you only at 7 because other people got booted already or do other people know not to bother joining the "high skill" rooms? Either way its a shame that TM 2012 doesn't have enough depth to allow you guys to do a 3v4. funny enough you always argue when I or anyone said TMBO/TM2PC had more depth.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/03/18 at 11:04:32

The Truth wrote on 05/03/18 at 09:42:06:
You know damn well what I'm talking about. Your "high skill" rooms boot people that aren't known or are deemed noobs. In your defense, maybe its not you personally doing it but it is your "high skill" clique of players. I personally haven't been on the server in years. However when I was any time I joined the "high skill" I was kicked and seen other people kicked almost immediately. Besides that I've seen various posts on TMA over the years about it and have heard from more TMA people that it was a common occurrence.

Based on that I figured he was kicked when I seen your response about the room not being "very accommodating". How nice of you guys to let him spectate from the rooftops. Is there just not many people playing these days? Were you only at 7 because other people got booted already or do other people know not to bother joining the "high skill" rooms? Either way its a shame that TM 2012 doesn't have enough depth to allow you guys to do a 3v4. funny enough you always argue when I or anyone said TMBO/TM2PC had more depth.


To be fair, Truth, that game is so cheezy that you probably can't legitimitaly do a 3 vs 4, 2 vs 1, etc.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/03/18 at 11:14:38
I can't speak for the whole community, especially since there's a language barrier where a portion of players primarily speak Spanish and have a limited grasp of English. Nonetheless, the general consensus is that people who do get booted are those who don't communicate, don't understand/care about the rules we play by and/or are at such a low skill level that there's no practical way to balance teams around them. You can have uneven numbers of players on teams no problem, the issue of balance purely has to do with skill.

It's called high-skill for a reason. When you have players who have just picked up the game, it either massively unbalances the game because they become an easy kill/killstreak fodder, or (what I do if they're on the opposing team) they just get avoided since picking on newbs is a bore. It isn't fun for anyone, and neither getting slaughtered nor ignored helps introduce a new player to the game. Players like myself and others in our own clan reach out to those who want to learn the game. If someone doesn't communicate and doesn't know what they're getting into, there's not much I can do.

Link me posts of the slews of people from TMA complaining about being booted in recent years if it's such an issue. Considering you prove you have such a poor understanding of the game and show no inclination to learn (plus you still won't even disclose who you are, as if you're embarrassed of it) I'm not at all surprised you were booted back then. Plus I don't see how you could be seeing others being kicked if you were supposedly getting booted immediately. ::)

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/03/18 at 11:35:35

Muddeh wrote on 05/03/18 at 11:14:38:
I can't speak for the whole community, especially since there's a language barrier where a portion of players primarily speak Spanish and have a limited grasp of English. Nonetheless, the general consensus is that people who do get booted are those who don't communicate, don't understand/care about the rules we play by and/or are at such a low skill level that there's no practical way to balance teams around them. You can have uneven numbers of players on teams no problem, the issue of balance purely has to do with skill.

It's called high-skill for a reason. When you have players who have just picked up the game, it either massively unbalances the game because they become an easy kill/killstreak fodder, or (what I do if they're on the opposing team) they just get avoided since picking on newbs is a bore. It isn't fun for anyone, and neither getting slaughtered nor ignored helps introduce a new player to the game. Players like myself and others in our own clan reach out to those who want to learn the game. If someone doesn't communicate and doesn't know what they're getting into, there's not much I can do.

Link me posts of the slews of people from TMA complaining about being booted in recent years if it's such an issue. Considering you prove you have such a poor understanding of the game and show no inclination to learn (plus you still won't even disclose who you are, as if you're embarrassed of it) I'm not at all surprised you were booted back then. Plus I don't see how you could be seeing others being kicked if you were supposedly getting booted immediately. ::)


I think the disconnect is this: In TMBO we happily played with newbs and balanced it just fine.  We had no reason to kick people as the depth allows us to balance perfectly.

Wether or not there are posts is irrelevant.  You admitted you boot people.  That's dickish. I fully believe you that your game forces you to be dickish.  It's still diskish.  I get that a lot of people are dicks on this planet so you shouldn't feel like we're singling you out as the only one who is being dickish, and again, a lot of the blame is the game.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by The Truth on 05/03/18 at 12:13:16
Alright so you can't take a chance of having a noob in the room because some of the best players are pansies and will focus the noobs. Fair enough, I don't fault you for kicking people then or making people fly to the rooftops and watch.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Luis on 05/03/18 at 12:24:10
I once brought someone who said was interested in getting better at the game to my clan's attention for training. Although he ended up making it difficult because he kept complaining about how difficult it was to learn and wasn't listening to instructions. The clan gave up on him and all he really wants to do is remain a casual and play the single player. Some people aren't worth helping because they won't listen.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/03/18 at 12:41:18

Luis wrote on 05/03/18 at 12:24:10:
I once brought someone who said was interested in getting better at the game to my clan's attention for training. Although he ended up making it difficult because he kept complaining about how difficult it was to learn and wasn't listening to instructions. The clan gave up on him and all he really wants to do is remain a casual and play the single player. Some people aren't worth helping because they won't listen.


Best argument for being a dick I ever heard.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Luis on 05/03/18 at 13:05:49
Um that really wasn't our fault. He literally made it impossible for the clan to help him because he didn't want to cooperate. Then he never came back because in reality he was just a single player TM guy who didn't know what he was getting himself into. I thought he really wanted to get better but I was wrong.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/03/18 at 13:35:19

Malefactor wrote on 05/03/18 at 11:35:35:
I think the disconnect is this: In TMBO we happily played with newbs and balanced it just fine.  We had no reason to kick people as the depth allows us to balance perfectly.

Well obviously, if someone connects to the revival server they'll most likely have gone through TMA to set up, and are in the loop if they connect when others come on to play. On the flip side, if a random player joined a TMBO TLMS and ignored there being teams, picked up health and didn't play within the rules, it would not be appreciated. If they didn't communicate and continued that pattern, it surely would lead to that player not being welcome in those types of lobbies anymore. In correspondence to what you're saying of TM 2012, you're saying that the TMBO vets would be dicks in this scenario and not the one who's not playing within the rules?

Whatever you're trying to argue about depth makes zero sense either. You've claimed over and over that a veteran can dominate novices in TMBO and that a novice could quickly learn to compete with a veteran since you say TM 2012 is 'dumbed down'. Yet you now say it's easy to balance veterans with newbs in TMBO and that the reason newbs are kicked from TM 2012 is because of depth? That's completely ass backwards. If someone only wants to screw around or play as a casual, there's other rooms to accomodate them. There's enough novice players that still play the game that they don't need to play in our lobbies.

If it weren't for the competitive nature of the game, I wouldn't still be playing it. What you're suggesting is like taking a couple semi-pro sports teams, swapping out a portion of their rosters with people who have never played the game before, and suggesting the game would be just as intense. It obviously wouldn't be because those players slow down the pace, kill the intensity and are only a detriment to the team. They can play with players of their own skill level while we play with players of our own skill level. If they want to improve, we welcome helping them outside of those lobbies. If they don't, then they can get enjoyment out of the game in their own way without interfering with us. There's nothing dickish about it.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/03/18 at 14:26:15
You'd be surprised. We get unknown peeps who can't chat.

Also, booting people is the definition of dickish. I didn't make the rules on what mean is, but it's easy to call it.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by The Truth on 05/03/18 at 17:47:43
I don't know why you are going on about people not chatting/following the rules. You guys have no idea how good someone is or if they are going to follow the rules when you just boot them within 20 seconds or just let them spectate from the rooftops. Basically not even giving them a chance. Which is completely retarded to do. They are not worthy of playing against better players. Apparently they got to kiss Yoda's ass to get the "training" before they are able to be considered of getting in a game.

It really doesn't matter though. If you guys want to chase away potentially good players then that is up to you. Much better to let people play with the best to potentially turn into good players and keeping the game more alive/active. Like you said though if some "high skill" players are just going to focus on the lesser skilled then probably better to boot then. Fortunately in TMBO original server days and even now the better players let everyone have a chance and didn't do lame shit like focusing on noobs in games.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Rab1d on 05/03/18 at 20:05:10
I dunno I thought they were friendly enough. I can't expect to be MIA for 5 years and immediately receive that royal treatment while playing under a new screen name no one has ever heard of before.


What maps do you guys normally play? I'll use challenge mode to relearn the common maps. Also is it frowned upon to use Shadow or should I be practicing him? It's interesting that Shadow is considered a top tier vehicle in all three online Twisted Metals :P. I guess TMX means that he steals Axel's crown.


TMX: Shadow top tier
TMBO: Axel, Crazy 8, Shadow top tier
TM2PC: Axel top tier; Shadow and Spectre 2nd tier

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/03/18 at 21:58:31
If someone hasn't even played online they'll have a N/A skill rating, and 99.9% of the time those with N/A skill ratings will be random accounts that are completely new. Depending on the night there could be as many as a dozen of these accounts that join one of our lobbies. If they're among the 0.1% who happened to just come back after a long hiatus and are on an alt account, they have time to announce it in the chat. There's no guessing of how good an unknown player is, it's clear as day by that rating if they have experience playing or not.

So if random newbs entered your TMBO competitive TDM/TLMS lobbies and didn't play by the rules, you'd go along with it as if it didn't take away from the game then? I think not. If you're playing FFA stuff, then sure. Newbs don't unbalance that and can be avoided. The vast majority of games were played FFA in the original server days since TMBO lacks team settings, and it's surely rare if ever that randoms enter lobbies dedicated to team gmes in current TMBO so that's an entirely moot point. We almost never play FFA in high-skill lobbies in TM 2012. Team modes is where a lot of the series' depth is, as you should know.

Whether they get slaughtered or ignored, high-skill rooms are not a setting where players should be introduced to the game. Again, I can't speak for the whole community but I personally do sandbag against weaker players who are competent enough to play in our rooms, but are still developing. However, the game has such a massive learning curve that to dial things down without losing all intensity in the game, players need to at least have a solid foundation in terms of how to play which they can develop in other lobbies, or with some help from us.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/03/18 at 21:59:21

Rab1d wrote on 05/03/18 at 20:05:10:
What maps do you guys normally play? I'll use challenge mode to relearn the common maps. Also is it frowned upon to use Shadow or should I be practicing him? It's interesting that Shadow is considered a top tier vehicle in all three online Twisted Metals :P. I guess TMX means that he steals Axel's crown.

The maps we choose usually just reflects the size of the lobby. Just S maps for 2v2 (aside from a few I'll mention below), S maps some M maps work for 3v3, more M maps and some L maps for 4v4, and we'll mostly use L maps for 5v5 and up. We never use the XL maps, and we don't ever choose Dead Man's Crossing (terrible linear map) or Factory Feud (too big and too much health). Ghost Town Gulch, Vertigo and Brewery Battle are probably the most common maps since they work well even for 2v2. If you're practicing offline, be careful that some of the pickup locations differ from where they're located online. They're not too dissimilar though.

Definitely feel free to play Shadow, it's definitely not frowned upon for newer players. It's really not grossly overpowered in reality. It can just be seen as a bit tryhard if the best of the best players choose it. Even though it's definitely the top vehicle, it does have a pretty steep learning curve to it. It's one of the hardest specials in the game to consistently land for high damage, but obviously well worth learning. The vehicles with the shallowest learning curves are mostly Vermin, Sweet Tooth and Meat Wagon.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Luis on 05/03/18 at 22:05:55
It's fine to use Shadow. It's frown upon to use Sweet Tooth and fly or Reaper's alt special. By the way the guy I was talking about wasn't booted. He left on his own and lost interest. :P Well that's my story and I'm done talking about it.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/04/18 at 00:06:08
Rabid you should join TMBO. I'm confident they'll give you the royal treatment (I. E. Common courtesy) you refer to.

Also, Muddeh, they do let players who join and break all the rules play.  They call them "wild cards" and consider them an unknown element.

If they WERE to try what you are referring to they would do passworded rooms. I know TMX was missing a lot of features, but doesn't it have those?

I spoke to a few players about these high skilled rooms of yours. I was a little disapointed that many of them even knew about the rooms since it meant they'd turned that God awful game on, but Mosh, Truth, and Spag also said they'd been kicked before.  That seems douche to me especially since all of those players would have gladly played by your rules. That means you just booted them because you considered them inferior.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by The Truth on 05/04/18 at 06:08:57
Why do you keep going on about random noobs not following the rules? I never said anything about that. I'm talking about you guys kicking people you don't know or assume are noobs not worth playing with. You have no idea what they are going to do or how good they really are when you boot them without giving a chance. As for going by skill rating I don't know what the skill rating was of the 8ish TMA people I've heard from. The account I was using when booted was around 94%. I know I seen in your TM 2012 videos people with a low skill rating in your games. Which means I personally was booted for not being known. If I had a clan tag or was friends with someone in the room I'm sure all would of been good.

In regards to lesser skilled players staying in the noob rooms. What you are saying is lesser skilled people in TM 2012 can improve in the noob rooms enough to be worth while in the "high skill" rooms. I suppose that makes sense in TM 2012. It just didn't work that way in TMBO. The way of getting better was by playing with the best players. You wouldn't get any where playing in the noob rooms. Which is why we didn't make a new passworded room to get rid of someone that joined we didn't know or thought was a noob.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Muddeh on 05/04/18 at 08:56:05
The idea of wild cards sounds about the same as a group of athletes got together to play some 3v3 basketball, and some random drunken hobo decided to wander on the court and decided they wanted to play, not caring about which hoop they shoot at or if they just run around without dribbling the ball. It wouldn't take away from the balance, but it certainly would be a pester that takes away from the intensity of the game. Still, I'm glad you guys find it fun.

I can say though that Mosh was indeed frequently booted because he would constantly fuck around with any and every opportunity we gave him to play. And being Mort's buddy, we gave him tons of opportunities over the years. If any banned vehicles were left unlocked, he'd use them. He'd toss health taxis with Junkyard, he'd fly around with Sweet Bot. He would frequently even commit suicide on mass just to mess with scores. I feel bad for Mort since he'd have to apologize for Mosh's antics fairly regularly, and if he wasn't with Mort then, yeah, he got the boot because he was a dick.

We could make passworded rooms or even apply a skill filter. We don't though. I can't speak for the community as to why you or others might have been booted years ago. I can say in those days there were a lot of rooms meant for scrimmage between clans and often weren't locked since sending messages containing the password through the PlayStation 3 XMB is really inconvenient. And again, without forum posts with mention of being booted frequently, I don't believe it was an issue but rather just a convenient complaint.

For the first handful years, a lot of high-skill players still played a lot of ranked and there were still a number of players who cared about the leaderboards, so it was still frequent that you could play against high-skill players outside of unranked rooms. Playing ranked is where I and most others developed our foundations in the way of map knowledge, driving skill and basic pacing/AA usage/survival instincts. Without those skills, getting pummelled by high-skill players doesn't help since newbs won't have the vehicle control, inventory or sense of when to pick their battles to be able to actually put up a fight or learn from their encounters.

Players can still develop those basic skills against weaker players, or with some crash courses. This comes from my experience of helping players over the years. If you feed newbs to the wolves in a competitive environment it just discourages them. It's like saying a kid could learn ice hockey quicker if they were made to play with and against NHL players, rather than against kids of the same age to build up skills like skating, puck handling and positioning on the ice. The same applies to TM and it's safe to assume N/A players or those that deal next to no damage and die a ton haven't developed that basic foundation, and are much better off learning in a more suitable environment.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by MoshfieldAsylum on 05/04/18 at 10:02:25
Me being a dick was in reaction to your clan bullshit.
Honestly I didn't like unranked play. You guys would pussy out of ranked mode because I'd win with Talon/Juggernaut sometimes. you wouldn't accommodate players who didn't play the way you preferred in your unranked matches and you couldn't give a fuck about having balanced teams.

Mort, bless him, still a great friend, was foolish to give you guys a chance because he believed unranked mode might save the game, but I knew better, and eventually so did he, thus why he has given up on TMX (and TM in general unless TM2 is remade).
You guys couldn't deal with ranked mode because you know the game is a piece of shit but you thought you could reinvent the game in unranked to your specificities, but it was only fun to you and your clan buddies.
The game by design was meant to accomodate Talon, SweetBot, Juggernaut, and the suicide penalty was really stupid, they should have realized it could be exploited. If I don't like you and want to ambush your game by suiciding on your team a bunch and quitting at the end of the match to take away your fun I will.
It was funny to me. But you kept defending the game that allowed this. That allowed split screen players to exploit TDM, that allowed self-stick RPGs for Reaper, etc.
So fuck off with your bullshit about feeling bad for Mort. He only played as long as he did because I played as long as I did.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by The Truth on 05/04/18 at 10:33:26

Muddeh wrote on 05/04/18 at 08:56:05:
The same applies to TM.


Yes, We've established it doesn't work in TM 2012 because the "high skilled" will just rape the lesser skilled for an easy win. That is not an issue in TMBO because raping the lesser skilled players won't win you the game. The better players focus on the other team's better players. It doesn't lessen the intensity of the games and can actually make it more intense. Games can be balanced due to the huge skill gap and car picks.



Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Rab1d on 05/05/18 at 19:38:20
I'll probably play some TMBO too. I just need a PS2 and the network adapter?

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Malefactor on 05/06/18 at 02:28:54

Rab1d wrote on 05/05/18 at 19:38:20:
I'll probably play some TMBO too. I just need a PS2 and the network adapter?


As I understand it, yeah.  It's about as easy as the original server.

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Thumpy on 05/06/18 at 11:08:05
Rabid?

Your alive?

Oh that is so awesome!  :D

Good to see you again!

Title: Re: People still play!
Post by Psycho Se7en on 06/09/18 at 12:41:31
Whats up?


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