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Message started by GeneralChaz9 on 02/16/13 at 22:56:11

Title: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/16/13 at 22:56:11
Where can I download it?  Getting a hard copy is near impossible, and I am dying to get it...I own every game except Small Brawl, and even own Head On on both PS2 and PSP.  I kinda feel like I need this for PC to finish my collection...lol.  But seriously, TM1 is an amazing game, it would be fantastic if I could play with updated graphics.  I guess the game was also up for download on this site at one time...but I can't find where at.  Thanks in advance guys!  

Also, yea, I'm a newbie.  I'll be posting here more though!  

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Road-Kill_3197 on 02/16/13 at 23:59:09
Merry Kwanza

http://www.fileflyer.com/view/0GVIzAY

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/17/13 at 09:37:56
Thank you so much man!  I was starting to think it was a lost cause looking for this! \m/

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Archminion on 02/17/13 at 18:28:27
Just as a heads up.

if the rom is still available thats all great and nice but pls guys don't ask me for help getting it running.

I'm not tech savvy on this.

I was also selling copies some time ago purely to avoid an influx of peeps pm'ing me requests for info on a free game they'd just downloaded.

I find that charging for the privilege reduces that somewhat...

;)

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/18/13 at 10:09:12
So yea, anyone know how to get this game working?  :-/

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Hellbent on 02/18/13 at 11:23:58

GeneralChaz9 wrote on 02/18/13 at 10:09:12:
So yea, anyone know how to get this game working?  :-/


If you record a video of yourself chugging a gallon of expired milk then cutting your face with a razor blade i'll give you half of the instructions. Mail me $50 and you get the other half.

Just kidding. I'm pretty sure it needs Windows 95 to correctly run. Windows 98 might work too. I'm not sure if compatibility mode in Windows 7 works however. Probably not.


Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Obliverate on 02/18/13 at 12:29:00
I think we only got it to work on XP and earlier. Compatibility mode doesn't work and it wouldn't work in an XP VM.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Hellbent on 02/18/13 at 12:43:12
I'm pretty sure i just ran it off a win 98 or win 95 Virtual Machine. If you avoid Windows 2000, Vista, and 7 it should run i'm guessing.

I imagine it won't run on DOS. But has anyone tried that yet? If i remember it's just a straight up windows program so that probably isn't an option.

To be honest there isn't any real point in playing it anyways. No amount of knowledge or fun you could get out of it would come close to being worth your time spent getting it to work. Go buy a test PS2 and get Harbor City then your collection is complete.

But only i possess the Twisted Metal Tiger Handheld. The crown jewel of Twisted Metal on the ultimate gaming platform. It's shaped like a gun with a TV screen. I wish all my gun sights were TV screens so i could watch Shrek 2 while shooting land ducks or whatever those things are in my backyard.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Mosh on 02/18/13 at 20:47:34
I've got it to run on 2 computers running on Windows XP. Basically after you mount the image you go to the virtual drive, right click & open, find the twisted.exe file, right click and go to properties, you'll see 'Compatibility Mode'. Change that to Windows 95 and it should work. If it doesn't, set it to another like Windows 98, see if that works.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by James P7 on 02/19/13 at 07:17:47
TM! PC does in fact work on XP. I have it on the same laptop that uses XLink

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/19/13 at 17:19:24

Hellbent wrote on 02/18/13 at 11:23:58:
If you record a video of yourself chugging a gallon of expired milk then cutting your face with a razor blade i'll give you half of the instructions. Mail me $50 and you get the other half.

Just kidding. I'm pretty sure it needs Windows 95 to correctly run. Windows 98 might work too. I'm not sure if compatibility mode in Windows 7 works however. Probably not.

I drink expired milk.  Setting up a camera shouldn't be too hard.  The money though...I can't do that.

Jokes aside, my only problem is the "No CDROM" error.  Twisted Metal 2 works fine, and I am pretty sure that is about the same as TM1 with the compatibility issues.  

Also, I tried DOSBox a couple days ago, and it wouldn't run because it is indeed a Windows 95 executable.  

Would a virtual drive work?  I feel like it would.  I also tried setting the compatibility mode on Win95 and Win98, but still nothing.  I'll get back to you guys if the Virtual Drive works.

@Hellbent, Twisted Metal Tiger Handheld?  What in the hell is that? lol

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Road-Kill_3197 on 02/19/13 at 17:20:08
We both don't even have the cd files, so every time it rus it asks for the cd.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Mosh on 02/19/13 at 23:04:03

GeneralChaz9 wrote on 02/19/13 at 17:19:24:
I drink expired milk.  Setting up a camera shouldn't be too hard.  The money though...I can't do that.

Jokes aside, my only problem is the "No CDROM" error.  Twisted Metal 2 works fine, and I am pretty sure that is about the same as TM1 with the compatibility issues.  

Also, I tried DOSBox a couple days ago, and it wouldn't run because it is indeed a Windows 95 executable.  

Would a virtual drive work?  I feel like it would.  I also tried setting the compatibility mode on Win95 and Win98, but still nothing.  I'll get back to you guys if the Virtual Drive works.

@Hellbent, Twisted Metal Tiger Handheld?  What in the hell is that? lol


What type of file is the TM1 file - is it a .bin & .cue file? If yes, then you need a virtual drive, so get software (example. 'Gizmo') to mount the .bin file to a virtual drive, and then open that to get the game files, change the compatibility in the properties of the .exe file, and then play the game.

I never tried running the game on anything past XP but it's unlikely it will work on Windows 7.

And Tiger Electronics made LCD games in the 90s. They were shitty portable games that would cost about 10 dollars and need 2 AA batteries to run. A lot of LCD electronic games are worth about 30 dollars on ebay nowadays if it is based on a popular franchise (amazing how worthless shit can be worth anything). The Twisted Metal one might be worth more since it's rare. Here's a commercial of a couple tiger games just for a laugh; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwc-cAw2njY
btw, Hellbent, you should really make a youtube review of tiger's TM. There's nothing on the net about it.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Hellbent on 02/20/13 at 03:03:52
Oh really? Well i guess i can. There isn't much to say. Tooth drives down a highway and you avoid stuff and fire missiles at other stuff. It runs at about 3 frames per second and you have 3 lanes. It's essentially on a tic tac toe grid. It's not even as fun as just pretending to play Twisted Metal. Even in 1990 we knew those things were bullshit for morons.

I got it off Ebay from an old lady for 5 bucks. This came out after the Gameboy Color so this was probably one of the last real LCD Tiger games made before they stopped producing these things. I can't imagine they made a whole lot of them because it's a fucking Tiger Handheld in 1995. Even back then it would have been horribly out of date. You could get a regular Gameboy for 25 bucks at the time.

It's kind of weird in that sense. It's like finding a real published cassette of Skrillix or some shit. There is a generational gap in the technology that makes you wonder how they even got something like that a green light.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/20/13 at 17:35:56

MoshfieldAsylum wrote on 02/19/13 at 23:04:03:
What type of file is the TM1 file - is it a .bin & .cue file? If yes, then you need a virtual drive, so get software (example. 'Gizmo') to mount the .bin file to a virtual drive, and then open that to get the game files, change the compatibility in the properties of the .exe file, and then play the game.

I never tried running the game on anything past XP but it's unlikely it will work on Windows 7.

And Tiger Electronics made LCD games in the 90s. They were shitty portable games that would cost about 10 dollars and need 2 AA batteries to run. A lot of LCD electronic games are worth about 30 dollars on ebay nowadays if it is based on a popular franchise (amazing how worthless shit can be worth anything). The Twisted Metal one might be worth more since it's rare. Here's a commercial of a couple tiger games just for a laugh; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwc-cAw2njY
btw, Hellbent, you should really make a youtube review of tiger's TM. There's nothing on the net about it.

...there are neither .bin or .cue files.  There are also two .exe's, one that launches a menu with Play, Install, Uninstall, etc., and the install button does nothing, but then there is the .exe that boots the game right up, that gives me the No CD ROM error.  There is an icon file that is an .ICO, if that is what you are looking for...

No doubt that Tiger handheld is some weird shit...what does Sweet Tooth even look like?  I can't even imagine him on a colorless LCD game...

EDIT: I can't imagine Sweet Tooth as colorless.*   :P

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Archminion on 02/20/13 at 18:26:20
Pit Viper is in it too...

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/21/13 at 18:34:33
Alright, well, TM1 is now an ISO, sitting in a virtual drive, and the no CD error is gone.  NOW I am getting the infamous "You need a 32 bit windows to run" message thing.  So, well, I'm stuck now.  

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Mr.SLaM on 02/21/13 at 19:33:10
My installer opens but won't actually install. TM2 PC works fine but this is a bit more picky. I think I can figure this out with just compatibility mode on though.
Wait nevermind I got to the CDROM message now. hmmm...

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/21/13 at 21:23:59

Mr.SLaM wrote on 02/21/13 at 19:33:10:
My installer opens but won't actually install. TM2 PC works fine but this is a bit more picky. I think I can figure this out with just compatibility mode on though.
Wait nevermind I got to the CDROM message now. hmmm...

Yea, I had that too, so then you need to make it an ISO image, put in virtual drive, and then hope it runs on your OS.  Otherwise, you get stuck like me with the message claiming you need a 32 bit OS

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Mr.SLaM on 02/21/13 at 21:48:21
What file do I make an IOS? So do I run the IOS I made, then go back to my file and run the exe?

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/22/13 at 09:34:57

Mr.SLaM wrote on 02/21/13 at 21:48:21:
What file do I make an IOS? So do I run the IOS I made, then go back to my file and run the exe?

Put all the game files into a program like MagicISO, etc., then once made into an ISO, put all the ISO game files into a virtual drive on your computer.  

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by mgruby22 on 02/26/13 at 16:58:15
In case anyone was having problems making a iso themselves...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/c84mcz

This file contains a .bin/cue of tm1pc, which can be mounted with daemon tools/magic disc etc.

I've gotten it to install and run on xp before.

Closest I could get to running it on windows 7 was having it give me an error message saying "The program tried changing to an unsupported video mode (mode: 320 x 240 in 8 bit color).
Please make sure your computer supports the minimum requirements).

Turns out the lowest resolution my video card can do is 640 x 480. I even tried adding 320x240 as a custom resolution in my computers registry, but my video card just won't do it.

I do however have this game working on an old xp laptop, if anyone else has this game working I'd like to try playing someone online.

I used to have 2 xp computers in my house and I tested the online capabilities of the game that way and it worked.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Zerathustra on 02/26/13 at 19:20:46
TM1PC online? That would definitely be extrordinary. Nothing like it's successor mechanically, so it would be very interesting to see indeed.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 02/26/13 at 20:43:20

Zerathustra wrote on 02/26/13 at 19:20:46:
TM1PC online? That would definitely be extrordinary. Nothing like it's successor mechanically, so it would be very interesting to see indeed.

I'd love to see a video of two people playing that online!  I'm going to try and get TM1PC running on an old netbook with XP on it.  It's a small computer, and extremely weak, so hopefully it can handle a tunneling program if I can get the game to install...

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by mgruby22 on 02/26/13 at 22:00:18

GeneralChaz9 wrote on 02/26/13 at 20:43:20:
I'd love to see a video of two people playing that online!  I'm going to try and get TM1PC running on an old netbook with XP on it.  It's a small computer, and extremely weak, so hopefully it can handle a tunneling program if I can get the game to install...



Just a tip, when I installed it I could only get the install pack to finish by using NT compatibility mode, but for running the game after installation I use windows 95 compatibility mode.

If it works for you, you'll notice that the game runs very fast, and the main menu will only be visible a couple seconds before it runs a demo sequence.

It will slow the game down a bit if you turn the resolution and detail level up to the maximum.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Hellbent on 02/28/13 at 20:59:55
TM1PC's netcode is incomplete. Even LAN mode is dysfunctional. The game desynchronizes as you play. After about 120 seconds both players will be fighting the same enemies in entirely different locations and time then everything goes haywire and it eventually crashes or becomes unplayable.

Theoretically TM2PC's netcode could work since they are the same engine on the same game. But without the source code to both games i imagine it would be impossible.

Also theoretically if you had a fast enough connection the game may not desynch. But i don't think that can be true because even a 10mb lan connection is far more data then the game actually sends while playing. So it's most likely that TM1PC's online is simply an unfinished alpha function.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 03/01/13 at 16:22:45

Hellbent wrote on 02/28/13 at 20:59:55:
TM1PC's netcode is incomplete. Even LAN mode is dysfunctional. The game desynchronizes as you play. After about 120 seconds both players will be fighting the same enemies in entirely different locations and time then everything goes haywire and it eventually crashes or becomes unplayable.

Theoretically TM2PC's netcode could work since they are the same engine on the same game. But without the source code to both games i imagine it would be impossible.

Also theoretically if you had a fast enough connection the game may not desynch. But i don't think that can be true because even a 10mb lan connection is far more data then the game actually sends while playing. So it's most likely that TM1PC's online is simply an unfinished alpha function.

Well that's disappointing.  Twisted Metal 1 just seems like an unfinished/rushed game overall.  Was really looking forward to maybe playing that online.

Also, how would you use the TM2 net code with TM1?  I know the games are extremely similar and even the files are similar.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Hellbent on 03/01/13 at 16:25:30

GeneralChaz9 wrote on 03/01/13 at 16:22:45:
Well that's disappointing.  Twisted Metal 1 just seems like an unfinished/rushed game overall.  Was really looking forward to maybe playing that online.

Also, how would you use the TM2 net code with TM1?  I know the games are extremely similar and even the files are similar.


You would need the source code and programming ability. Or else you would never be able to tie together the intricate arteries that connect the online mode to the raw game.

Without the source code it would be like trying to do a heart transplant with a shotgun and a vacuum cleaner.

It may be possible to play TM1 online however. Using the ePSXe emulator and Kalieria. I wanted to try and use this to get Critical Depth running online but i never had the time to experiment with it. It should work though.

http://www.epsxe.com/

Try it out. You know for use with your legitimate copy of TM1. Also don't forget to get a copy of the PSX BIOS you need them for the emulator to work. You legally own the rights to download and use the PSX BIOS file by having a PS1.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by -SCoLD- on 03/01/13 at 16:33:47

Hellbent wrote on 02/28/13 at 20:59:55:
Theoretically TM2PC's netcode could work since they are the same engine on the same game. But without the source code to both games i imagine it would be impossible.


Nay, the server can be rebuilt completely from the client, with about 1500+ hours, lots of coffee, and willpower.  Also, a degree in engineering helps.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by GeneralChaz9 on 03/01/13 at 16:34:45

Hellbent wrote on 03/01/13 at 16:25:30:
You would need the source code and programming ability. Or else you would never be able to tie together the intricate arteries that connect the online mode to the raw game.

Without the source code it would be like trying to do a heart transplant with a shotgun and a vacuum cleaner.

It may be possible to play TM1 online however. Using the ePSXe emulator and Kalieria. I wanted to try and use this to get Critical Depth running online but i never had the time to experiment with it. It should work though.

http://www.epsxe.com/

Try it out. You know for use with your legitimate copy of TM1. Also don't forget to get a copy of the PSX BIOS you need them for the emulator to work. You legally own the rights to download and use the PSX BIOS file by having a PS1.

I have the actual TM1 disc, but sold my PS1 years ago...
Besides, I'm not too sure how the PS1 emu would run on my laptop.  It has some pretty low specs...

On topic, has anyone finally gotten the ISO to work on Win 7 64 bit?

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Mr.SLaM on 03/01/13 at 16:38:01
My game opens up saying Twisted Metal is loading, but the another window opens up saying it can't load DirectPlay service C:\Windows\system32\dpwsock.dll then I click ok and it gives me the resolution bullshit.

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Fireice989 on 06/25/19 at 06:45:25
I know I'm a resurrecting an old ass thread but I really need help getting TM1 running on PC. I have the .BIN for it and have tried mounting and running on windows 98SE, 2000 and XP all through virtualization using VMWare but it all comes to down to an error with Direct 3D acceleration not supported or some shit like that. Can anyone help my dumbass out here? I've spent hours on this. Running it in compatibility mode doesn't seem to do shit for me :(

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by SpectreMissile on 06/27/19 at 21:18:58

Fireice989 wrote on 06/25/19 at 06:45:25:
I know I'm a resurrecting an old ass thread but I really need help getting TM1 running on PC. I have the .BIN for it and have tried mounting and running on windows 98SE, 2000 and XP all through virtualization using VMWare but it all comes to down to an error with Direct 3D acceleration not supported or some shit like that. Can anyone help my dumbass out here? I've spent hours on this. Running it in compatibility mode doesn't seem to do shit for me :(

I have a pentium 2 computer that I use to play old games like this. But if you're on Win7/10, try the latest DxWnd.

There is discussion on how to get the game working with DxWnd at DxWnd Twisted Metal 1

Title: Re: Twisted Metal 1 PC
Post by Fireice989 on 06/28/19 at 12:26:36

SpectreMissile wrote on 06/27/19 at 21:18:58:
I have a pentium 2 computer that I use to play old games like this. But if you're on Win7/10, try the latest DxWnd.

There is discussion on how to get the game working with DxWnd at DxWnd Twisted Metal 1



Thanks for the advice! So I actually did get it to run using DXWND on Windows 10 64-bit and Windows 10 32-bit on a VM but it plays way too fast. The FPS is like 300+ so it renders unplayable. Would you mind sharing that thread? There's a million settings I could toggle in DXWND, I just don't know which ones I need to toggle. I think I did see a thread on it recently but the information I was reading was too advanced for me to understand :(

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