"If you freeze the copter it drops out of the sky and smashes in the ground. Takes a bit of damage but more than that: opens itself"

"The plan is to toss debris and flip cars when a big ram occurs but it's not happening yet."

"Way I understand it, we'll be tossing out new vehicles and characters as the year goes on."

"You CAN switch vehicles in a game either by dying or suicide."

"No, you can not get out of the vehicles in TM. Cycles, copters, cars, trucks and more BUT no on foot."

"We originally wanted drivers and gunners to make the car combat feel more realistic. It became clear very early that
# since Team MP is key AND since we had so many other things to do, that building 32 characters was prob not the best way to spend resources. "

"Local MP will be a very strong aspect of the new TM. We would never abandon it. It's a KEY aspect of any TM game"

"Standard split and online free for all will be there. And you can pick between all the cars to battle. But in that mode, each car will be driven by 1 of the 4 chosen faction driver/gunners...you will not have 16 unique characters for each of the 16 vehicles.  To us, the vehicles ARE the characters, especially in multiplayer. Made more sense for us to focus on the game and levels and such vs. modelling and animating 16 different in game characters + gunners (32 total), most of which would look like normal peeps from beind camera."

"The stories and world and characters are VERY important to us. BUT the bread and butter is MP so made more sense to put mucho effort into the levels and design and modes and balance vs. tons of time making more and more factions that really don't affect play"

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so does the story have the factions or characters?! :-?

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"Standard split and online free for all will be there. And you can pick between all the cars to battle. But in that mode, each car will be driven by 1 of the 4 chosen faction driver/gunners...you will not have 16 unique characters for each of the 16 vehicles. To us, the vehicles ARE the characters, especially in multiplayer. Made more sense for us to focus on the game and levels and such vs. modelling and animating 16 different in game characters + gunners (32 total), most of which would look like normal peeps from beind camera."

this is the way Ive always felt about the game. Glad theyre thinking along the same way. These are interesting tweets. We should keep updating this on this thread maart. I cant bother myself to sign up for the damn thing myself.

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"If you freeze the copter it drops out of the sky and smashes in the ground. Takes a bit of damage but more than that: opens itself" -"for a turbo ram" 2nd part of that tweet.


I like the flipping of the cars if a big ram happens, I loved watching sweettooth flip in tm2 lol. I wonder what more there could be then copters, cycles, cars, and trucks..... We've seen some sweettooth mechs.


Spectrum, the faction thing is just something made up for the MP. SP will just be characters, from what I understand.

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Excellent. Then my plan to freeze Talon players out of the sky is still a viable strategy. Freeze + turbo ram + power missile = death or near death I hope.

But, it seems like they are not going to have 16 different story characters in the single player? I'm still unclear on this but that's how it sounds. I mean, if they aren't taking the time to animate them in the MP then it would seem like that would mean the same for the single player?  :'(

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Not necessarily.  They could just black out the windows in single player and each car would have it's own driver in story/videos alone.  Unless there is a gunner sticking outside of your passenger window even when playing offline, which I guess is very possible.

I don't know how they can show a gunner at all with only 4 character models unless they take the gunner out completely and just go "old school" with single player.

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Jaffe said that SP will be like it has always been, single characters.  It's from an older twitter post, and if I can find it I'll post it.

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maartyrr wrote on 07/06/10 at 14:53:09:

"If you freeze the copter it drops out of the sky and smashes in the ground. Takes a bit of damage but more than that: opens itself"

Interesting because in the E3 videos you can clearly see the thing freeze in midair.

This is more interesting though.

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Father Time wrote on 07/06/10 at 23:45:19:

Interesting because in the E3 videos you can clearly see the thing freeze in midair. This is more interesting though.

Yes, but it's been mentioned in the another thread that Jaffe said they only showed the oldest stuff they had. I'm pretty sure right now they have already refined the mechanics and gameplay some more.

I'm loving the idea of ramming the copter more and more. It's not everyday you get to ram a helicopter!

Like Xizor mentioned before, it'd be fucking fun to ram Talon and others into the ground from a tall building. I suppose that'd work better with Roadboat.

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"There is a question I keep getting asked a lot that I am ignoring on purpose. U'll see why eventually. Not being rude :) Gotta run! Later!"

This is David Jaffe's latest tweet, it's funny because about 5 minutes before this tweet i asked him will there be challenge and endurance modes in single player in the new TM.

Wonder what really happened to those two modes.

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It would be nice to be able to snatch those damn Talon's out of the air via Roadboat's special and then launch the fuckers over to the rest of your faction buddies on the ground for them to unleash an onslaught like ravage dogs before it is allowed to take flight again if HP prevails enough to do so.

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Talon is like that kid everyone hated and loved to pick on in high school. It seems like Jaffe wanted something for us to push around in MP while at the same time Talon users have to learn how to not be raped and use Talon at its maximum.. to play smarter in the air. That means, users down below have to counter that, which creates a balance between aerial and ground.

Of course there will always be noobs picking Talon thinking "durr I am untouchable in the sky." Rape imminent. Fuck, I can't wait for this.

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Serpentine wrote on 07/07/10 at 03:38:01:

Talon is like that kid everyone hated and loved to pick on in high school. It seems like Jaffe wanted something for us to push around in MP while at the same time Talon users have to learn how to not be raped and use Talon at its maximum.. to play smarter in the air. That means, users down below have to counter that, which creates a balance between aerial and ground. Of course there will always be noobs picking Talon thinking "durr I am untouchable in the sky." Rape imminent. Fuck, I can't wait for this.

I can't wate to do a Live Free Die Hard manoeuvre :p   and send a message saying i ran out of bullets or in TM case my guns over heated

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Midknight wrote on 07/07/10 at 03:50:29:

I can't wate to do a Live Free Die Hard manoeuvre :p   and send a message saying i ran out of bullets or in TM case my guns over heated

And you just know the maps are going to be rigged up for that shit.

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TMShan88 wrote on 07/06/10 at 21:05:03:

"If you freeze the copter it drops out of the sky and smashes in the ground. Takes a bit of damage but more than that: opens itself" -"for a turbo ram" 2nd part of that tweet. I like the flipping of the cars if a big ram happens, I loved watching sweettooth flip in tm2 lol. I wonder what more there could be then copters, cycles, cars, and trucks..... We've seen some sweettooth mechs. Spectrum, the faction thing is just something made up for the MP. SP will just be characters, from what I understand.

his head always stared at you.

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" gcacho
 
Just played copter in twisted metal. Thing is quick and destructive. You can own everyone with that."

this is off of esp twitter

yiiiiiiiiiikes

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Serpentine wrote on 07/07/10 at 01:31:34:

Yes, but it's been mentioned in the another thread that Jaffe said they only showed the oldest stuff they had. I'm pretty sure right now they have already refined the mechanics and gameplay some more. I'm loving the idea of ramming the copter more and more. It's not everyday you get to ram a helicopter! Like Xizor mentioned before, it'd be fucking fun to ram Talon and others into the ground from a tall building. I suppose that'd work better with Roadboat.

Wait what? When was this?

Edit: never mind found it
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/22ce0b

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".@junegore No idea but seeing lots of comments from Kotaku story from peeps who think we've abandoned those aspects. So not the case.
Just to be clear TWISTED METAL PS3 DOES have dark, twisted stories and straight up, free for all DEATHMATCH. Seems peeps r confused."

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I wish all these idiots would just look around the web for 5 minutes instead of bombarding Jaffe with questions on his twitter all day that he answered very clearly a month ago at E3. It turns all his tweets into old news.

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"Come to the Twisted Metal comic con panel and get your very own Sweet Tooth mask for free!" - Jaffe Twitter


I WANT ONE!

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Son of a bitch, for once I wish I didn't live all the way over here in the east. A free Sweet Tooth mask?? Hmm maybe I should ditch work and drive like a madman all the way to San Diego.


Quote:

The comic con panel is in room 8 at 1pm on Friday (day 2 of the con)! Finalizing the panel now, but should be really fun and cool surprises.

And.. Here's what I found on the Comic-Con website at http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci10_prog_fri.php


Quote:

Friday, July 23 1:00-2:00 Twisted Metal Returns!— Car combat returns to the PlayStation 3. Meet game directors David Jaffe (God of War) and Scott Campbell (Downhill Domination) as they introduce the demented characters of the new game, share some early looks at the game's twisted end stories, and show concept art of the PS3 Twisted Metal that never was! Room 8

So they're gonna reveal a bit about the characters and stories? Sweet.

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http://www.davidjaffe.biz/


lots of awesome pics from jaffe's E3 presentation

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That's one ridiculous machete.

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XIZOR wrote on 07/10/10 at 19:04:32:

I wish all these idiots would just look around the web for 5 minutes instead of bombarding Jaffe with questions on his twitter all day that he answered very clearly a month ago at E3. It turns all his tweets into old news.

People just need to re-learn how to read again, period.

And thank god no on-foot action.

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Toasty wrote on 07/19/10 at 06:33:48:

And thank god no on-foot action.

fo real, i always thought that was a bad idea.

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I'm gonna break some fucking faces if I don't get a god damn Sweet Tooth mask!

PS: I love that sig Napalm :props:

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CyborgnetX wrote on 07/20/10 at 06:45:17:

I'm gonna break some fucking faces if I don't get a god damn Sweet Tooth mask! PS: I love that sig Napalm :props:

thx dude, but i cant take credit for it, i stole it from some TM2 blog site cuz it had the TM2 sweet tooth head on it.

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#2- WE HEAR YOU! :) - Scott, Kellan, and I went to breakfast today to discuss the overwhelmingly positive comic con reaction (as well as to get some design work done). We also discussed the fact that some of ya'll are not digging only seeing 3 of the Twisted Metal characters in the game (4 actually if you count Preacher). Two things to that:

a- please keep in mind this Twisted Metal single player and co-op will be more varied than ANY TM you've ever played. We are NOT doing GTA style missions or vehicle escorts and such BUT we DO have mechanics laid on top of the core campaign deathmatch that adds to the play varied so you don't get bored. We also have more bosses than any TM game. We also have around 35-45 minutes of live action and- when it's done- super cool stories in the game (more than- I THINK- we've ever done). So while you may be disappointed by the fact that there are currently no plans for Marcus Kane or Bloody Mary or No Face, please know that the one player/campaign game you DO get is going to be the best one we've ever made.

b- we hear you. We talked about it at breakfast today and discussed possible ways to address the concern. Can we make those adjustments to the game in the time we have left? Not sure, no idea. But for those who respectfully voiced your issue, it is appreciated, the development and publishing team is aware of your issue, and we are looking to see if there is anything we an do about it. No promises at all. But just so ya know, ya'll are being heard. And it's appreciated.

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That right there proves at least that they have been listing to us fans from the begining. Of course with the current topic people are going to go WTF? Me included.

It's easy to say OMFG WTF ARE THEY DOING??? 3 CHARACTORS?!?!?!

If they really did listen to us, I belive once we play it and run it through the ground, I bet it probably won't matter anymore.

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Perhaps they can work on the other characters at a later date, and have it available for us to download sometime after the release of the game.

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http://tweetphoto.com/35275257

New pic of grimm

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TMShan88 wrote on 07/28/10 at 00:19:13:

http://tweetphoto.com/35275257 New pic of grimm

Yeah I just saw that and posted it in another thread I thought it still looks cheesy (The dreads and the painted like a skull not a real skull cap or actually being a skull) BUT it looks a lot better then the white stunt suite. Basically it went from terrible to should be better.

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Now all they need to do is paint the rest of his body.

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I hope they add a skull helmet...

like what if he buries up his dead dad and wears his dad's skull as a new helmet?

That would be pretty twisted  ;)
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/Death1031/GrimmUpDate.jpg

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Jaffe said on his twitter that it's 2011 and he doesn't believe people want the same linear formula as other TM games, with the same levels and 40 second endings.

THAT'S FINE. If he would have created a dozen or so more characters with the same great idea in mind for the level design(multiple paths, unique bosses), cut out all the live-action shit, but added longer cg cutscenes, I believe we would all have a much better view of the single player campaign.

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Marcus Kane wrote on 07/28/10 at 00:54:15:

Jaffe said on his twitter that it's 2011 and he doesn't believe people want the same linear formula as other TM games, with the same levels and 40 second endings. THAT'S FINE. If he would have created a dozen or so more characters with the same great idea in mind for the level design(multiple paths, unique bosses), cut out all the live-action shit, but added longer cg cutscenes, I believe we would all have a much better view of the single player campaign.

For some reason he believes he shouldn't do CG because SOMEHOW it means they are in competition with the "CG Kings" Blizzard.

I wish he only said he wanted to do live action to be different, not say this dumb shit about competition.

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wrote on 07/28/10 at 00:37:08:

I hope they add a skull helmet... like what if he buries up his dead dad and wears his dad's skull as a new helmet? That would be pretty twisted  ;) http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/Death1031/GrimmUpDate.jpg

looks great! they should do this!

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Marcus Kane wrote on 07/28/10 at 00:54:15:

Jaffe said on his twitter that it's 2011 and he doesn't believe people want the same linear formula as other TM games, with the same levels and 40 second endings. THAT'S FINE. If he would have created a dozen or so more characters with the same great idea in mind for the level design(multiple paths, unique bosses), cut out all the live-action shit, but added longer cg cutscenes, I believe we would all have a much better view of the single player campaign.

The intention of Jaffe was good and in theory the gameplay should benefit from it. But I would like to see a arcade mode just a simple TM throwback to add more value to the single player. Its good to do something different but he took it just one step too far by gutting most of the characters.

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Grimm looks a lot better.

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Sweet pick.

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God damn. Stop whining about the single player already. Jesus fucking christ.

And I think Grimm looks pretty tight in that picture.

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Look at it this way.  With a single player storyline with more content than any previous TM (according to Jaffe) which only focuses on 5 major characters (ST, Grim, Dollface, Preacher and Calypso) we are looking forward to a very in depth view of these characters and the nature of Twisted Metal.  The stories we at TMA focus on the most are the Kane's (obviously), Grasshopper (because of the ties to Calypso), and Minion (because of the ties to Calyspo's sister).  There lay all our unanswered questions which have never been answered.  Connections between the Black world and the Colorful world.  How did Calypso steal Minion's powers?  Etc.

Now, as cool as Slam's ending might be, or as interesting as Twister's, they don't tie together.  They are dead ends in the progression of the saga.

Jaffe and gang have basically cut out all those dead ends and limited the cast to the characters who's stories mean something to the contest and it's fiction.  That's kinda cool.  Because think of how long and involved and deep these ending movies are going to be :-)

And with the custom paint shop and stuff... I'm really looking forward to making the CARS my CHARACTER.  As was intended.  This TM is going to be amazing.  Online and off.

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wrote on 07/28/10 at 00:37:08:

I hope they add a skull helmet... like what if he buries up his dead dad and wears his dad's skull as a new helmet? That would be pretty twisted  ;) http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/Death1031/GrimmUpDate.jpg

This main outfit looks much better.

I like the skull you photoshopped on Grimm.  Looks cool with the dreads.  I would prefer a darker skull though.

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Meat-Auger wrote on 07/28/10 at 05:03:03:

I would prefer a darker skull though.

then it would match his skin lol jk :P

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Meat-Auger wrote on 07/28/10 at 05:03:03:

This main outfit looks much better. I like the skull you photoshopped on Grimm.  Looks cool with the dreads.  I would prefer a darker skull though.

Darker eh...

how's this?

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/Death1031/GrimmUpDate2.jpg

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I like the guy face palming the new Grimm look in the background. That says it all.

http://a.imageshack.us/img830/3033/grimmtma.jpg

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much better!

Obviously this is his outfit after he gets twisted?

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/sigh...this makes me a sad panda.

I thought Serpentine was trolling me when he said Grimm was a black voodoo man, gah

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Kilrgrn wrote on 07/28/10 at 21:49:54:

/sigh...this makes me a sad panda. I thought Serpentine was trolling me when he said Grimm was a black voodoo man, gah

why? do have a thing for black voodoo men?

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it looks like they're trying to add the military element to the new Grimm.. hrmm..

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He had the military element in TMB....Where have you been dude?

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This new Grimm actually IS starting to grow on me! I mean I hated him completely at first all because of his retarded stuntman suit, but after seeing this get-up he's actually starting to look more like Grimm but only with a Voodoo-esque vibe to him that sort of works for this type of game if you think about it. Maybe if they'd touched up his face paint (like that photoshop) a little bit more more people would probably change their opinion a little, IDK...... ya gotta admit though his chopper looks pretty bad ass! ;D

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That Reaper cycle looks wicked...
Can't wait to take it for a spin }:-)>
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r28/Death1031/ReaperCycle.jpg

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yeah dude, im really diggin the fact that there is no sidecar for grimm this time around.

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NapalmSanctuary wrote on 07/30/10 at 02:54:25:

yeah dude, im really diggin the fact that there is no sidecar for grimm this time around.

They took it out in TM:HO as well...
I think that was his best look in the series yet...
http://www.freewebs.com/twistedmetalgames/HO%20MR%20GRIMM.jpg

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i owned TM:HO for 1 day i think, then me and my ppl went back to playing TM2.

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Like Jaffe said in that one interview, each Twisted Metal game is sort of it's own universe. So things are going to be a little different such as the new Grimm. But that being said, I like the new Grimm look better than the other ones.

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Jaffe is on GameTrailersTV.
SPIKEHD AT 12:30 AM TONIGHT ON VERIZON FIOS ON THE WEST COAST.
I don't know any other times.

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Well, I'm watching that right now as I type.

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Same here, I wonder if Jaffe is gonna slip in something new about TM.

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Well, they just talked about what we were all talking about in the forums for this month.

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Meh. Nothing exciting, but thanks for the heads up. I honestly don't think we are going to get to much "new" information for a little bit. We still have a long way to go before release so he won't want to give it all away just yet. I would imagine the next good batch of details might wind up in some sort of cover story magazine spread.

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Well, I'm probably gonna miss it. Netflix sent us "The Crazies" a week ago, and my parents waited until now to watch it.

:::EDIT::: Dad wants to watch King Of The Hill. The one time he isn't 'plunging dungeons' as an 'orc hunter'...

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wrote on 07/31/10 at 07:19:09:

Well, I'm probably gonna miss it. Netflix sent us "The Crazies" a week ago, and my parents waited until now to watch it. :::EDIT::: Dad wants to watch King Of The Hill. The one time he isn't 'plunging dungeons' as an 'orc hunter'...

No worries. Like the others have said, nothing new. Actually everything he says is nearly word for word from previous interviews.

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Jaffe has opened up pretty much on his more recent tweets if peeps care to check.

2 new blogs as well

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Cover art will feature car combat action instead of a single character because Black looked like a survival horror game. Trophies will be 90% in singleplayer. They're still tweaking with alot mechanics. All that good stuff.

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Jaffe actually got back to me on a few tweets. He said that you will notice that the cars but that there will still be a points system.

EDIT- I actually meant to say that he said that you will notice the armored cars absorbing a lot more damage then the lighter ones. That it will be a significant difference (Unlike from TMHO).

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Speaking of noticing the cars, anyone else thing the user display names are too big/overly noticeable? I understand their thinking trying to keep the action instance by letting you know where the enemies are at all times, but in the E3 showfloor footage it looks like all you see is a sea of red and blue names.

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http://www.davidjaffe.biz/

gt.com interview with jaffe

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Finally, someone has a conversation with him.

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He's going to take that perfectly awesome Sweet Tooth ice cream truck to a demo derby and demolish it? WHHHHYYYYYYYYYY! I want.

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XIZOR wrote on 08/04/10 at 05:48:26:

He's going to take that perfectly awesome Sweet Tooth ice cream truck to a demo derby and demolish it? WHHHHYYYYYYYYYY! I want.

EXACTLY!!!WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN?!?!?!?! :'(

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He's living the DREAM!!  8-)

Demolition derby, it's Twisted Metal minus the missiles and guns!

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lol!

Pretty apt I guess.
I hope they record footage of the whole thing.

It'll be sad and funny at the same time to see this thing get taken apart.

No doubt there'll be uproar from the one or 2 more crazy fans who demand that Jaffe should give them the truck instead.

Not me of course.

I'd have nowhere to keep it.

Maybe they should auction off the busted parts for charity?

On TMA of course...

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I don't have the money or space to own that Sweet Tooth ice-cream truck, so I'd MUCH rather watch it take place in a demolition derby than get sold to some random mega-fan or stowed away within ESP.

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ive actually thought about trying to build a real life,completely functional replica of TM2 Roadkill

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did younmiserablly fail or??? :-?

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I had a real life replica of 'ATV' at one time

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Archminion wrote on 08/04/10 at 20:10:39:

I had a real life replica of 'ATV' at one time

An actual ATV or just a small-scale replica of it?

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Did you have a shotgun attatched to the front? Sticks of dynamite?

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Cinder wrote on 08/04/10 at 19:17:20:

did younmiserablly fail or??? :-?

i dont have the money for it right now, it is in my future plans though.

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oh i thot you said u tried it already. nevermind :P

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Latest tweets. He says there may be some form of Two people in one car coop, but iterates that it isnt one person shoots one person drives.

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hmmm...
maybe having the second player in the car allows them to shoot from the backseat?

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an actual ATV, no shotguns though.

Jaffe did say in 1 tweet that generally it'd be one player per car.
Maybe there's one mode where more than player controls a vehicle (my guess is if a boss is playable maybe one player controls a turret whie the drives or something?

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He shot down the rumor of it being co-op.

And he confirmed Shadow is in the game! Hooray!

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complete with coffin launching abilities???
That's awesome news!

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in a recent tweet he talked about unlocks (giving shit away, in his own words) for ranking up as opposed to upgrades. i dig this idea

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He said Shadow's car is in the game with the special we all know and love! Hooray x37!

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Bring on the brokenness!

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is it shadow car and driver or shadow car?

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It'll be Shadow the car.

A bit suprised he's been confirmed as it sounded like he'll play similar to Meat Wagon.

Not complaining though as I like Shadow.

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im not sure if its been confirmed but it looks like crimson fury is in the game at about 4:25 and 8:04 it looks like him

http://comic-con.gamespot.com/video/6270923/?tag=updates;title;2

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startainfection wrote on 08/09/10 at 20:56:08:

im not sure if its been confirmed but it looks like crimson fury is in the game at about 4:25 and 8:04 it looks like him http://comic-con.gamespot.com/video/6270923/?tag=updates;title;2

The shield in the game turns the car red with a grid pattern covering it. I believe the footage used in that interview was from E3.

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This just in from Jaffes blog!

His daughter has butt worms.

http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/

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butt worms?

is that what it was?

Thought it was a tm3 screenshot.

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Found this on his blog today... have NO idea what it is, but maybe like a some metaphor on how ice cream melts er.. somethin.. IDk you decide :-?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BPdwCWy3-18/TGQZWCG3p_I/AAAAAAAACLQ/bU40M3wpt0Q/s1600/securedownload-3.jpeg

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deadRoden7 wrote on 08/12/10 at 18:48:41:

Found this on his blog today... have NO idea what it is, but maybe like a some metaphor on how ice cream melts er.. somethin.. IDk you decide :-? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BPdwCWy3-18/TGQZWCG3p_I/AAAAAAAACLQ/bU40M3wpt0Q/s1600/securedownload-3.jpeg

It means Thumper's in the game and can melt people with his primary special

lol, not really

in reality, words cannot describe the epic-ness of the image.

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i came up with the same image when I was trying to find an Ice Cream Truck model on Google Image Search for Yellow Jacket to use for his projects...

Im guessing Jaffe typed in Ice Cream Truck in a search engine and came across it as well.

It's basically a pun:

a literal ICE CREAM truck, it's made of Ice Cream... Ice Cream melts... get it? Ice Cream Truck! roflma NO! :P

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deadRoden7 wrote on 08/12/10 at 18:48:41:

Found this on his blog today... have NO idea what it is, but maybe like a some metaphor on how ice cream melts er.. somethin.. IDk you decide :-? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BPdwCWy3-18/TGQZWCG3p_I/AAAAAAAACLQ/bU40M3wpt0Q/s1600/securedownload-3.jpeg

It's what happens when Sweet Tooth drives his truck without the AC on.  His head melts all the ice cream.

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new psnation podcast with scott campbell

http://psnation.org/podcast/files/PSNation-Ep177-Upgrade%20to%201st%20Class.mp3

starts at 14:30

new jaffe vblog

http://www.davidjaffe.biz/

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I'm gonna start posting inspirational movie speeches on Youtube and hope Jaffe puts them on his blog. Anyways, thanks for the heads up mart.

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Dave fucking says fuck a lot. he can't fucking go 5 fucking secs without fucking saying fuck. he fucking must be under a lot of fucking stress from fucking making the fucking game. totally fucking understandable and fucking shit but fucking still funny to fucking hear the fucking word fuck used so many fucking times in 7 fucking mins.

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.@seriouspipes Oh man! Long time no chat! So nice to hear from you! I will follow u then direct message you as I can't talk details n public

the message sent to him was...

@davidscottjaffe Hey David, TM2,3,4 Calypso VO Mel here. Fans asking me if I'm in the new TM. Love to work with you again. ATYFP...TM!!!

so...yeah, TM2 Calypso is on Twitter

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Yeah the best. Mel McMurrin

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Jironobou wrote on 08/15/10 at 09:31:08:

.@seriouspipes Oh man! Long time no chat! So nice to hear from you! I will follow u then direct message you as I can't talk details n public the message sent to him was... @davidscottjaffe Hey David, TM2,3,4 Calypso VO Mel here. Fans asking me if I'm in the new TM. Love to work with you again. ATYFP...TM!!! so...yeah, TM2 Calypso is on Twitter

I saw that!  Let's hope it happens.  ;D

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YmTagPKzP0

Have a listen...

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-"I am Calypso and I thank you for playing Twisted Metal."

:D

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It's impressive how many levels of Calypso he's developed.

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When I checked out Mel's youtube channel I noticed that he commented on this video: All The Twisted Metal 2: World Tour Endings [Part 2 Of 2]


Quote:

he, he, he... .....mwahhahahahahahahahahahah­a I AM CAH... oh nevermind

Hahahahaha!  I guess that went over everyone's head!

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Imagine all the ppl that would literally go nuts hearing him in the new TM. Being so nostalgic for tm2 and all.

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It'd be great if he can squeeze a cameo in there but it might not happen. I think the stories must be wrapped up.

Jaffe was going to give away ST's machete at the Con and I don't think he would have intended that if the stories were still ongoing.

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As much as I'd love to see it happen, I'd rather it not be in some lukewarm, diminished capacity.  For instance, an announcer or a narrator.  I think it would still be great, but at the same time a cheapening and a waste of talent that is more befitting an integral part of the creative and developmental process.  

Bah, who am I kidding, I'm a sucker for that voice.  Give him some "Round 1:  FIGHT"s.  

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You know the scariest thing behind that video is? With a little bit of make-up that guy would even look like TM2 Calypso! So fucking cool that he made that and is showing his support for Jaffe and the boys. Sweet.  ;D

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MK:

You should see an old pic of him.
Even has the same smile.

http://voice123.com/melmcmurrin

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Was Calypso's appearance based off him or was that just a coincidence?

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There is always DLC.

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new Jaffe interview:

http://games.venturebeat.com/2010/08/17/the-twisted-creativity-and-potty-mouth-of-game-designer-david-jaffe/

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".e. we're looking at making just the movie theater a tight, fight for your life style map for 16 players as well as a smaller 2-4 player split screen map)"

drooooooooool...drive in movies all over again muhahaha.. now all i need is spectre in the game and I'll be good as gold

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lmao Drive-In Movie was my favorite stage, next to the Rooftops. Nowhere to run, so you just gotta throw what you can at the opponents :D

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LindaP wrote on 08/18/10 at 17:23:50:

lmao Drive-In Movie was my favorite stage, next to the Rooftops. Nowhere to run, so you just gotta throw what you can at the opponents :D

that shit will be a cluster fuck, fucking blast with ramming back in the game. im interested.

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This is fantastic. See ya at the movies then.

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Manly.  Not "Holland" manly, but manly nonetheless.  

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What's his twitter account? I wanna follow him, I looked for Dave/David Jaffe and nothin' came up.

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maartyrr wrote on 08/18/10 at 13:55:16:

".e. we're looking at making just the movie theater a tight, fight for your life style map for 16 players as well as a smaller 2-4 player split screen map)" drooooooooool...drive in movies all over again muhahaha.. now all i need is spectre in the game and I'll be good as gold

/vomit

no offense, but drive in fucking sucked donkey balls and YOU KNOW IT, ya (spec)TURD! There were no weapons, and in 1on1 the person who won the match was the one who got the only turbo pickup.

Im sure you mono y mono people will have a field day though. ENJOY

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People love Drive-In Movie the way people loved Final Destination (Smash Bros.). Nowhere to run and nothing to rely on. You gotta fight the second you're in the game.

It's not for everyone though (clearly).

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RoaDiE wrote on 08/25/10 at 03:15:07:

/vomit no offense, but drive in fucking sucked donkey balls and YOU KNOW IT, ya (spec)TURD! There were no weapons, and in 1on1 the person who won the match was the one who got the only turbo pickup. Im sure you mono y mono people will have a field day though. ENJOY

no weapons huh? thats because i was making you eat them all. yummmm. haha.  I need my home stomping grounds back...my home field advantage...my "crutch when all else fails"

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Drive In was amazing.. I like all the hiding spots.. was pretty fun for 1v1 or 2v2 matches but other than that it was a cluster fuck. Sewers still is the shit.

And how do you sign up for this Twitter shit and how do I receive them?

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So where does Jaffe tweet from so I can follow?

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http://davidjaffe.biz/ Jaffe's Blog

twitter.com/davidscottjaffe Jaffe's Twitter

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The man hasn't tweeted in over a week.

Are we due another big expo at PAX do you think?

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Archminion wrote on 08/26/10 at 08:47:09:

The man hasn't tweeted in over a week. Are we due another big expo at PAX do you think?

That's what I'm thinking. He's been too quiet. If it's the big expo at PAX, I'm certain he'd show off some classic TM vehicles making a comeback, like Thumper, Grasshopper, Mr. Slam, Pit Viper???, and the regulars like Warthog, Brimstone, Manslaughter?, etc.

Maybe they'll show off a couple of new levels, like Canals.

Or they won't even show up at PAX at all..

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While I always respect your opinion Road and those who didn't prefer the mono e mono way of playing TMBO, Drive In was massive fun in 1v1s. Yes, it was all about whoring those fucking pick-ups, especially turbo, but I had countless good games in that level ducking, dodging, and shielding enemy attacks while trying to dish out my own ass rape. At least there were two skill weapon pickups in the level.

Wasn't a big fan of Specter vs Specter battles though because that car was trash and so was the concept of those types of 1v1s, but I did partake in enough of them, especially with SoC. Definitely helped me learn and master the strategy of anticipating, dodging, and shielding ghost missiles.

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Movies was a bitch. Toataly loved it for 1v1. Anything more than 4 and it was fucked. Always thought there should've been 1 more turbo P/U and the level would've been perfect.

Stadium was tight too. That's old school shit right there. Countless times getting destroyed in Stadium. That was when you put your ass on the line for many TMA Vets.

I Liked Sewers. Hated the running. OMFG the people who ran were fucking terrible in that level. At least in Plant or Burbs there were open spaces to fling stuff at em.

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Serp: I wonder if by not tweeting, blogging etc the poor guy can't be accused of lying again?
I'd assume he'd want to make the turn out big (and a suprise?)
So he might announce it a day or 2 before?

Maybe we'll see the masks come out now among other goodies?

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Maybe, That's what I'm hoping for though. If I'm not wrong, PAX starts on Sept 3.. it's possible he(and ESP) got something to show. I just hope he's going to show more vehicles and levels, also announce more details on MP.

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amen to that

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Magnum wrote on 08/26/10 at 13:14:10:

Movies was a bitch. Toataly loved it for 1v1. Anything more than 4 and it was fucked. Always thought there should've been 1 more turbo P/U and the level would've been perfect. Stadium was tight too. That's old school shit right there. Countless times getting destroyed in Stadium. That was when you put your ass on the line for many TMA Vets. I Liked Sewers. Hated the running. OMFG the people who ran were fucking terrible in that level. At least in Plant or Burbs there were open spaces to fling stuff at em.

I really hope we get some tighter levels this time, I know it's PS3 and all, but I'd like something a little more on TM2's scale to play around in.

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XIZOR wrote on 08/26/10 at 09:34:13:

While I always respect your opinion Road and those who didn't prefer the mono e mono way of playing TMBO, Drive In was massive fun in 1v1s. Yes, it was all about whoring those fucking pick-ups, especially turbo, but I had countless good games in that level ducking, dodging, and shielding enemy attacks while trying to dish out my own ass rape. At least there were two skill weapon pickups in the level. Wasn't a big fan of Specter vs Specter battles though because that car was trash and so was the concept of those types of 1v1s, but I did partake in enough of them, especially with SoC. Definitely helped me learn and master the strategy of anticipating, dodging, and shielding ghost missiles.

Eh 1on1 was ok, but team games were much more intense. Not that I hated 1on1, but team games were just an amplified more awesome version of the game.

But yeah. Specturd vs Specturd . Why was this so popular?! The cheesiest car of all time whoring it up in a level that I despised.

I did however play a lot of Turd 1on1 (enuf to know it sucked), and regular 1on1, in Stadium. That was a lot better, seeing as how there wasn't just a single turbo pickup and single skill weapon pickup. Yes there is something to rely on, TWO PICKUPS lol... Im sorry folks but thats how you win at Drive-In. Not much skill involved. Just run laps and play farmsville with two items.

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Check out those God of War sneaks on Jaffe's blog!
I love how the shoelaces are made with the Blades of Chaos chains.

http://davidjaffe.biz/

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According to one of Jaffe's recent posts, they just did an interview with a "major Playstation outlet" and this interview consists of new info and images of the game.

If anyone finds this interview that Jaffe is talking about, could you kindly post it here please. I'd really like to see it.

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David Jaffe hates Toy Story 3 I loved that movie how he thought that parts of it were boring is beyond my comprehension.

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it could be that this big exclusive interview will replace what might have happened at PAX?

Hopefully its an online site and not a mag as I hate importing US mags...

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I guess I'm the only one waiting for them to comment about the music =(

TM1 and TM2's soundtracks were superb. To this day I feel TM1's soundtracks is up there with the Donkey Kong Country series in terms of quality. TMB wasn't too bad, I suppose. Definitely set a good mood.

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Couldnt think of a better place to put this but Jaffe has confirmed on the ESP site (in PAX???) that we'll find out more in the next 4 weeks from a popular magazine and much of the focus of the article might be on single player.

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Archminion wrote on 09/05/10 at 10:44:18:

Couldnt think of a better place to put this but Jaffe has confirmed on the ESP site (in PAX???) that we'll find out more in the next 4 weeks from a popular magazine and much of the focus of the article might be on single player.

I need more info it was a flush of things at E3 then some more info at comic con and since then its been nothing Jaffe's Twitter hasn't been active (Other then hating on Toy Story 3). I need more TM info!!!!

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I fucking loved TM1's music. Got the themesong as my ringtone.

By major magazine, he most likely means Playstation Underground or whatever this is. Although I would like for it to be GameInformer.

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Off topic: lol at your pic PRS.

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Cool: http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/

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That looks awesome. I'm guessing that it is the re-designed River Park Rumble level from TM1. I remember a while back before TM was announced, Jaffe mentioned a possibility of boats as a transportation, maybe in that level?

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River Park in the new TM? Boats? Say it isn't so!

If it's true, then yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

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check out Jaffes new tweets (as of now) he's talking game mechanics- very integral to the gameplay

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heres the pic:
http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a468/gringo96/Twisted%20Metal%20stuff/blogs.jpg

heres the link:
http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/

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Jaffe has just made a very cool post. Maybe 20+ vehicles in the game? for dlc???

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I just saw that myself, very cool indeed. i think there will be a ton of thoughts going into each and every car, so hopefully there won't be a TMA balancing act.. I think Jaffe is missing one of the cars that was displayed in the demo. is the muscle car death warrant or roadboat?
I'm going to guess its death warrant, leaving roadboat (hopefully roadkill at somepoint) to be the junk car

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That small semblance of a graph totally reeks of match-up chart.  Fucking rock.  

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"Hey- dunno when we are announcing release. Up to Sony. Sitting here placing pick ups in the movie theater level tho. Good times!:)"


fucking loooooooove it

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Honestly, I wonder if by chance he means the movie theater that you see them driving through in some of those first gameplay videos? It was part of a bigger level so I'm more than likely way off. I just remember seeing a car driving inside a building crashing through rows of seats that looked like a movie theaters. He didn't say "Drive In" movie theater after all.

Yeah...totally crushing your dreams right now aren't I?

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yeah I remember that clip of JYD driving through the seats flattenin everything.
Reminded me of the movie theatre area in Lost.

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I would really, really dig a legit movie theater option, even if it is a movie thater from a bigger level just shrunk down. The drive in theater was madness and a ton of fun to fight it out in, even if I never won.

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http://twitpic.com/39trgl


so supposedly this is a "sneak peak" at the final boss of TM


any guesses to what this could be? really hard to tell

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This is actually confusing since I thought the plan was to have 3 bosses with 1 at the end of each characters chapter?

I'm on tenterhooks with anticipation...

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While I was looking at the scans over at N4G, I thought of RoaDiE's post. And right below it, I found this.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=hr&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=hr&tl=en&u=http://forum.gameplay.hr/threads/62477-Twisted-Metal%3Fp%3D1156298%26viewfull%3D1%23post1156298

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=hr&ie=UTF-8&sl=hr&tl=en&u=http://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/4689328286466048&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgoZD_zT-iRHotAC4KVnYqmYsHELg

This game is going to take up a shitload of my life. In a fantastic way of course. I apologize if this has already been posted somewhere.




Edit: The boss doesn't look like a vehicle. More like a...floating mechanism?

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I think I see an exhaust stack on the left side... Darkside?

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I think Darkside is facing the floating spikeball boss. Jaffe already leaked a truck was a playable vehicle.

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yeah its darkside :O

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maartyrr wrote on 11/24/10 at 21:02:55:

http://twitpic.com/39trgl so supposedly this is a "sneak peak" at the final boss of TM any guesses to what this could be? really hard to tell

RoaDiE wrote on 11/25/10 at 06:58:36:

yeah its darkside :O

Are you two sure, looks more like this .
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1968/circustruck.png
A circus Truck couldn't be that bad of an idea as a boss ?

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I'm with Disaster. Like I said in a reply in the Magazine post of Roads, it looks like an exhaust stack of a truck.

Now whatever the hell is on the back, where the 5th wheel should be makes no sence to me. Darkside has a clean bobtail, where as if this is a tractor type vehicle, something is on the back.

If it's not a tractor type vehicle, I'll be surprized really.

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I've always felt like, to fit with the new class themed play they are trying to promote, that Darkside may very well have a trailer that could act like an APC for teammates.  It would be one of his secondary specials or something.  Maybe he would have a turret or something on top of the trailer that the passenger car could use.

But if true, how would Darkside use the mobile full health trucks?

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Jaffe mentioned something quite a while ago about transport and even though I can't put my finger on the exact source I got the impression he mentioned something other than the Talon.

And I think he mentioned trailers or flatbeds...?

But it does go along with what seems to be happening here with DS or another big rig having a trailer.

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Arch- Me mentions other transport vehicles during the video where he revealed that long canyon road level.  And yeah, it might just be a flatbed that appears as part of his special, much like when the cab appears for JYD's special.

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Well  jaffe did say that there will more than likely be more than one flying vehicle in the game, my guess its a space ship

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a pirate ship car airship is my guess

;D

Maart: I have Blood Drive finally if you want to get some 2 player games going?
I was on for about 2 hours last night and not a single soul other than the bots  :'(

I did win every match though so thats good news to me whether the bots are just crap or (hopefully) I'm to good  :)


EDIT: Surgeon: yeah your bang on with that. That's what I remember now- can't wait to see more!

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@ arch, bout damn time, you know my gamertag-if not its maartyrr.  and add this guy too Ramirez83 - he's got skillz at this game - every game we ran it was close

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no probs matey.

over the wkend some time...

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well its confirmed that it's still a contest as always:

"@black_lizard People think I use the word Tourney wrong. And I prob do. So let's just say that it is as it always was: a contest run by Calypso. Win the contest, get any prize your heart desires. Preacher is involved. Won't say how."

From Mr J's Twitter.


EDIT: There's actually tons of interesting TM related tweets he's made over the last 3/4 hours so it might be worth sifting thru them all.

Some good stuff here for those concerned

(btw he's confirmed that a full time on target shot with the Sniper rifle will be an INSTANT DEATH  in MP games!)

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Jaffe confirmed there is server lists, ala TMBO style. AND matchmaking. For online.

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He was sayin TM1 was up on psn, is it really? I havent heard anything about it being released yet.

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Looking at that teaser pic, I just some sort of transformer or something, barely a vehicle. Fight a gaint robot as a boss? Mite be cool.

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No TM1 on PSN at the minute.

That would be very cool if that boss is a giant robot.
Always wanted to see what the PS3 coud do with this ever since Big Daddy from Rogue Trip :)

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PS3 Tower Tooth?

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Ha yeah,

I liked that boss.

I don't think Jaffe'd go that route exactly but it might be a giant Tooth robot of some sorts.

I mean the game has been hinting at wanting that since Black.

(at least thats the vibe I got) :)

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"@bigraymo official BETA test as well as bringing people in to play the whole game and get feedback, I suspect that will begin start of 2011 about 2 hours ago"

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I wonder if its just people in utah/la or everyone or people who have the playstation plus?

anyone good at decoding jaffe's scribble?

http://twitpic.com/3cly31

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maartyrr wrote on 12/04/10 at 04:54:28:

I wonder if its just people in utah/la or everyone or people who have the playstation plus? anyone good at decoding jaffe's scribble? http://twitpic.com/3cly31

So far, it's just the Utah/LA guys. If it were PS+ people, then something would have been mentioned by now. And I'd buy PS+ immediately after that.

I tried deciphering this earlier but from what I see, it's:

From the left page
- Red Ring DM
- Sled car or Red car
- Start in
- Flare / explosion /

Right Page *in no order*
- Arena level?
- Outstanding Vehicles: Spectre
- hard to tell who starts em/cm, followed by illegible scribble
- color code
- Stage and state no longer ___________?

There's a nice patch of white on the top center of the pic. (Rooftops still ______) Wonder what that's all about.

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Jaffe's recent Tweets are making me think that this game will come out in April. April is kind of a good spot no big releases coming out then and its far away from Sony's other games (Little Big Planet 2, Killzone 3, and Motorstorm Apocalypse) coming out as well.

Throw in the fact that Jaffe is talking about flooding the market with new info starting in the new year. Which means the game is far enough along to start releasing info and he also mentioned beta testing which happens in later stages of development.

All in all I think April to June but more likely April I can only see June if they need to delay it. I see June as more of a fall back position in case development hits a snag. But with how long this game has been in development I don't see it needing more time.

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http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/12/05/twisted-metal-to-arrive-before-december-2011-release-date-announcement-soon/

yup announcing release date soon

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Grand Master Twisted (Jaffe of course) has posted another interesting Tweet:

"Mangy people live them some Tooth and Axel...but this guy, he's my favorite character in the whole Twistedverse! http://twitpic.com/3eg5pr"

(mangy was a spelling mistake btw lol)

Anyway I'd ASSUME this his favourite character is Calypso, Or Grimm?

But can any of you check out this weird pic and make out what this even is?

I just can't figger it...

I thought it was fun with the earlier 'is it DS, is it not?' Tweet Detectives so this might be worth checking out to.

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Archminion wrote on 12/10/10 at 09:48:19:

Grand Master Twisted (Jaffe of course) has posted another interesting Tweet: "Mangy people live them some Tooth and Axel...but this guy, he's my favorite character in the whole Twistedverse! http://twitpic.com/3eg5pr" (mangy was a spelling mistake btw lol) Anyway I'd ASSUME this his favourite character is Calypso, Or Grimm? But can any of you check out this weird pic and make out what this even is? I just can't figger it... I thought it was fun with the earlier 'is it DS, is it not?' Tweet Detectives so this might be worth checking out to.

Looks like The Preacher to me.

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Good shot BT.

I think your right, the red tinted glasses...

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Yeah, that's definitely Preacher. Look at the rim of his hat along with the  strand of hair.

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you guys would be good in a rorschach test.

I saw 2 rubies fighting with string...

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I know something that will keep u guys entertained, try to infere what is being reflected in his glasses. To me it looks like maybe a skyscraper.

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There's a Sin City vibe to the Preacher picture, I think that's awesome. Didn't Jaffe say a couple months ago that Sin City is one of the influences on the movies? Eh, maybe I'm wrong.

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Serpentine wrote on 12/10/10 at 23:02:06:

There's a Sin City vibe to the Preacher picture, I think that's awesome. Didn't Jaffe say a couple months ago that Sin City is one of the influences on the movies? Eh, maybe I'm wrong.

yea, and I thought I read that Preacher was one of his favorite characters anyway? that pic is def Preacher.. looks like the one from the new game in the live vids

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no doubt it preacher.
it looks like either a scyscraper building or a vehicle with the headlights on the bottom right side

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http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b287/killjoy10000/santasweettooth.png

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THAT IS AWSOME!!! ;D

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Just got the new Game Informer featuring Twisted Metal. No new information, but there is some new screens. Nothing major. Maybe I will scan it if anybody really wants to see.

EDIT: That Santa Tooth picture is fucking choice, bro.

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it is ha :)

yes would love to see...

cheers

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Hey all! Just wanted to give ya'll- and especially the regular posters (thanks for that!)- an update and explain how all of the work you've done is now going to become crucial to us (and yes, I consider creating posts that contain well thought out concerns and feedback to be work).

Once we hit Alpha- a matter of weeks- 90% of our effort switches from fresh content creation (weapons, levels, vehicles, modes) to tuning and polishing. We've been doing as much of that as we can during the road to Alpha but now we'll hit it full force. Post Alpha is one of the best parts of making a game as all of the team's amazing, hard work begins to really gel and the game gets fun! :)

And so over the next few weeks-and especially during the holidays-I will be pouring over your feedback and putting together a doc for Scott, Kellan, and myself (as well as the rest of the team) that cites concerns and issues you guys have brought up time and again (or even one-off concerns that we feel are crucial). As always, new, original ideas should never be posted on this forum. But feedback/response to the stuff we've released to the world is always welcomed! So keep it coming! But please, keep it civil. :)

We will then look at the compiled list of forum feedback and anything we don't already have on our mega 'to do list'- and it's a freaking massive list- we will discuss and decide if and how we can address. Some of it will get addressed, some will not (based on our personal opinions as well as development time to address).

So that's the plan. Just wanted to let you all know that your posts are super appreciated and super valuable in helping us turn (and tune) this new Twisted Metal into the best one ever!

Thanks!

David


this was taken off the esp forum(dec 4th)...guess there will be additional discussions on that board as the new year is approaching.  I've been paying that much attention to that website due to the lack of "intelligent discussions from the other members - aside from the ex TMAers and TMA regs..but after skimming through some of the post it seems that there are quality posters and posts now. Once those discussions begin that ESP wants player feed back, i'll link those posts to this wall.

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That's cool.

It'd be better for us to go there, than for them to try and sort through everything here.

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!! This is nice.

:)

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Manta Ray wrote on 12/12/10 at 06:51:52:

Just got the new Game Informer featuring Twisted Metal. No new information, but there is some new screens. Nothing major. Maybe I will scan it if anybody really wants to see. EDIT: That Santa Tooth picture is fucking choice, bro.

there's a lot of good info in that mag, as well as they mention an extended interview on gameinformer.com...so yeah if you can scan the mags go for it.

Oh and it seems that LMS is definitely back in the game

Jaffe did say its so much fun driving the car and the monster truck through the groceries store... I wonder if he really meant "monster truck" as in hammerhead or just the trucks in general like JYD.

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maartyrr wrote on 12/13/10 at 21:54:43:

there's a lot of good info in that mag, as well as they mention an extended interview on gameinformer.com...so yeah if you can scan the mags go for it. Oh and it seems that LMS is definitely back in the game Jaffe did say its so much fun driving the car and the monster truck through the groceries store... I wonder if he really meant "monster truck" as in hammerhead or just the trucks in general like JYD.

Yeah, I noticed that too, actually. Too bad from the article it seems like the pedestrians of old will not be returning, at least as they were in Twisted 1 and 2.

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were you able to find the article on gaminformer.com? i can't seem to locate it

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No, actually. Was wondering the same myself. Hopefully it goes online.

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Well, I emailed the guy at gameinformer.com that did the interview with dave/scott and this is what he replied with:

Glad you liked the interview! From what my bosses tell me, it sounds like I get to post it on Wednesday. I hope you enjoy it! I'm a huuuuge fan of Twisted myself.

I also linked him to this site, as well as your (BT Crocker) posts - namely the concept art and the tm2 comic book.  Who knows, he may even post here.

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I hope this interview reveals some new details.
Lookin forward to wed then...:)

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one final responce back:

I made a point to play it at E3. I was busy as hell so I was worried I wouldn’t get a chance to sit down with it, but I managed to squeeze in one match between appointments. I only got to play for like 10 minutes, but it was pretty awesome from what I saw. I remember being thrown off by the shoulder buttons because they changed the placement of the “change weapons/machine gun/weapon” buttons slightly, but I got used to it. I was one of the Mr. Grimm-esque motorcycle guys, and we played a standard deathmatch. Really had a lot of fun, and it’s one of my most anticipated games of next year for sure.


yeah I can't wait for wed either...its nice when a editor/writer who's a huge fan of the series gets his hands on the game - and gives TM a good write up.  I'm hoping he asks some non-regurgitated questions regarding the game.

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This is excellent news, it also (hopefully) means the game will get a decent fair review in time.

I remember some pretty insulting reviews of past TM's especially more recently one or two of Head On for PSP and ETE.

I hate when ppl who are obviously not fans of this type of game never mind the series post professional reviews that slate the games simply for what they are.

Thanks for posting this maartyrr

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All credit goes to Dan Ryckert from Gameinformer  magazine

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/12/15/david-jaffe-and-scott-campbell-talk-twisted-metal.aspx

6 freaking pages with new stuff/pics...ommmgggg

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GET IN MY SON!!!

off to read it now...

:)


EDIT: A few new pics which is nice and the interview was definitely fun to read and informative.

BUT...

Still no solid new info yet.

I was hoping for maybe another car reveal.

can't complain though as it's the first good/new read on TM I've seen in a while.

Cheers for posting the link Maart!

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I like the pic of the ambulance above the health semi. Thx for the link.

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maartyrr wrote on 12/15/10 at 18:08:50:

All credit goes to Dan Ryckert from Gameinformer  magazine http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/12/15/david-jaffe-and-scott-campbell-talk-twisted-metal.aspx 6 freaking pages with new stuff/pics...ommmgggg

Some new info (Nothing Earth shattering but some cool stuff) and some cool pics. I thought that the pics looked a lot sharper then the ones in mags past.

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Could someone with twitter ask jaffe about damage modeling on the vehicles? I havent seen any answers at all for it.

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Oh, kinda off topic - i recently rewatched one of the CAM vids from E3. some guy had deathwarrant and was trying to fire off the swarm missile.  The good news about it, is that it looks the swarm missile completely toned down from the TMHO days. from 3:50 - 4:10

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-twisted-metal/700365


Instead of launching out 8 missiles that visciously seek their target, you have 3 missiles that fly in a formation similar to roadkill's special from tmb.  Also - you don't have to charge it up, but you do have to have your enemy in your sights to lock on.

back on topic

Its nice when an editor who is a long time fan of the game finally gets to do a nice write up.  as Arch said, there were reviews of tmho/ete that came from people who don't enjoy no understand the game/play or who even appreciate this type of genre.  I can see how Jaffe is fidgety and constantly worrying about his baby being put down - so even though its not totally 'new' news, its still nice to see more depth with the behind the scenes and reasoning of why the team with with choice A over choice B or C.

Hopefully Dave and Scott will do another interview with Dan - as he is also a huge fan of the series.

Also, BT Crocker - what did you mean that peds won't be returning like they did in TM1 and TM2?  There's an image showing some people running for cover while axel and two other cars battle it out?

Roadboat's special sounds pretty damn funny too " You have a car with a magnet on the front that can pull a car in and you can charge it up and launch an enemy at other enemy, and you hear them screaming as they fly through the air"

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TMShan88 wrote on 12/15/10 at 20:42:59:

Could someone with twitter ask jaffe about damage modeling on the vehicles? I havent seen any answers at all for it.

What do you mean? with all the vids/pics that Ive seen - it looks as if they kept the same structural damage that tm1, tm2, tmb, and tmho had. Meaning that once you reach a certain health, your car shows wear and tear, but when you get health your car once again looks brand new.

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maartyrr wrote on 12/15/10 at 21:08:29:

What do you mean? with all the vids/pics that Ive seen - it looks as if they kept the same structural damage that tm1, tm2, tmb, and tmho had. Meaning that once you reach a certain health, your car shows wear and tear, but when you get health your car once again looks brand new.

I remember an interview about TMB where they originally wanted to go for realistic damage modeling but the ps2 wouldnt of been able to pull it off. So naturally I'm wondering how it will be in the new one.

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Maart:

so far Roadboat is quickly becoming my fave car for this TM.
I just love how the magnet mechanic appears to work.

From what I've seen in action it'll be a larf...

I was also interested to hear how one particular level will feature some form of modification during the course of the battle.

And just the mention of bosses...warm delicious bosses...

I know there's 3 to be in the game but hearing the guy mention these no doubt crazy fucked up contraptions of terror and twistedness just gets me all kinda hot and fuzzy inside.

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That desert level they showed back at Comic-con seems to be the only level that we know has environmental modification of any kind. Can't wait for the others to come.

There was a mention of remote controlled cars in the article? Not the gurney, mind you. Wonder what that's about...

Thanks for the article, maaaaaaartyrrrrrrrrrrrr

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I think the RC car bomb might be a replacement for the normal remote?

imagine a mobile remote? lol

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welcome haha

i thought the rc cars were the rico discs...i could be wrong tho.  The level that is constantly changing is the arena level, I remember Jaffe talking about it in a video interview that a certain arena level and moving floors and pits and other "lights out" activities

I'm loving death warrant...spectre maybe playing back up quarter back in the new TM

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I'm about half-way thru the interview right now. this is def a good read. and the screenshots look amazing.. just amazing. to think, everyone was worried about graphics LOL

thanks for the IM, Maart. its much much appreciated

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Very nice, I think the Game Informer interview has to be one of David and Scott's better TM interviews.

The new screenshots are amazing. If I'm not mistaken, I remember Jaffe saying on Twitter maybe 2 weeks ago, saying they're almost to Alpha and graphics were going to be reworked and made better because the TM fans deserved it. This made me wonder if the new screenshots are actually old since the interview apparently took place a month ago or so.

I'm not really a graphics whore, this is just a thought that came up when reading the interview. Of course it looks stunningly amazing, and the gameplay will even be more amazing.. Especially for online mutliplayer.

I'd have to agree with Archminion on Roadboat. Hell, I've already decided Roadboat will be my favorite just based on the videos I've seen and not have played a second of the new Twisted Metal.. It's not even out yet for fuck's sake. I just love the idea of sucking some poor bastard in and chuck em at someone. It would really be badass if I could hold a vehicle and drive it through houses and slam into cars to cause further damage before I spit it out.

This will be my face the day Twisted Metal is released.

http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx359/serpentine35/shit/1289659173429.jpg

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maartyrr wrote on 12/15/10 at 21:04:34:

Also, BT Crocker - what did you mean that peds won't be returning like they did in TM1 and TM2?  There's an image showing some people running for cover while axel and two other cars battle it out?

I meant in the sense of ones with personality, ala Twisted 1 and 2. I was missing them in Black, but they're still cool to have regardless, of course.

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I'm curious to see how the peds work in this game.

Do they spew blood? Can you even run the down?

It'll be interesting to see how it all fits into the 'T' rating...

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Archminion wrote on 12/16/10 at 09:11:48:

I'm curious to see how the peds work in this game. Do they spew blood? Can you even run the down? It'll be interesting to see how it all fits into the 'T' rating...

I could have sworn I saw a couple get run over in the E3 footage, no blood, however.

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In the E3 footage the peds flip over ur car, they run around while on fire too lol.

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I think the burning peds were actually drivers from the competing cars after the car has been destroyed.
In the same way that Black released the burning driver for a small health boost if run over.

I THINK that's what I seen anyway.

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No blood from the peds make sense its a T game. They probably just get tossed around like rag dolls when you run them over.

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lol, remember the peds in roadkill?

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Heh, yeah. The dragging on the floor thing they had when you ran over a ped in Roadkill...its just like Needles in the E3 Nuke demo.

I wonder if there will be a ped bonus this time around...

Edit: Yay Hammerhead! (Please don't suck...)

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It was a generic clown in that vid. :(

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@themeorch This is the plan. Eager2start Beta testing 2 C how well it works but our online team is blistering clever so I have high hopes!

.@themeorch In addition 2matchamking,Twisted supports server lists as well so you can custom out your online experience/search 4 what u want


sounds like they are going to go the warhawk route...can you have match making with p2p servers or is that strictly a dedicated server thing?  But that's totally awesome that you can search for what game you want whether it be nuke, dm, or lms.

I for one hope they use dedicated servers - anything to reduce any lag in TM would be awesome

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maartyrr wrote on 12/17/10 at 16:12:17:

@themeorch This is the plan. Eager2start Beta testing 2 C how well it works but our online team is blistering clever so I have high hopes! .@themeorch In addition 2matchamking,Twisted supports server lists as well so you can custom out your online experience/search 4 what u want sounds like they are going to go the warhawk route...can you have match making with p2p servers or is that strictly a dedicated server thing?  But that's totally awesome that you can search for what game you want whether it be nuke, dm, or lms. I for one hope they use dedicated servers - anything to reduce any lag in TM would be awesome

PSN is free and dedicated servers cost money. I don't think any game other then MAG uses dedicated servers on PSN. Even X-Box Live which you have to pay for doesn't use dedicated servers. Really only PC games use dedicated servers.

It still would be nice to see more console games use dedicated servers but the reality is that most companies cut corners when it comes to that (Dedicated servers don't really cost that much money either).  

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Quote:

On Saturday 18th December 2010, @davidscottjaffe said: Hey! Got question for me or Scott or any of the Eat Sleep Play team about Twisted Metal? Shoot them to me here and on Thursday we will pick the best and/or most frequent and do video responses on the official Playstation Blog! They tell me TWISTED METAL gets to take over the PS BLOG all day Thursday so expect lots of cool stuff from the world of TM on 12/23! Consider it an early Christmas present and a late Hanukkah gift...and a REALLY late Easter present! Please note: Still not really revealing tons of new info (again, that's for the new year) but we are gonna try to sneak in a few cool, new tidbits of info, brand new art, contests, and such. So ask away! And then come see us on the PS blog this Thursday! Thanks ya'll! David

This will be interesting, hmm. The "new" info should be enough to tide us over until after New Years.

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I'd like to know if there is a character named Mr. Camo in the game. U guys remember that dude that was insulting the series on the playstation blog back when extra twisted came out? I think his name was camo........

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warhawk for ps3 uses dedicated servers, so did split second and nfs...you still had the player host servers for unranked matches tho

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XIZOR wrote on 10/11/10 at 15:44:01:

Honestly, I wonder if by chance he means the movie theater that you see them driving through in some of those first gameplay videos? It was part of a bigger level so I'm more than likely way off. I just remember seeing a car driving inside a building crashing through rows of seats that looked like a movie theaters. He didn't say "Drive In" movie theater after all. Yeah...totally crushing your dreams right now aren't I?

I was actually looking for something for kilrahi and stitches, but I came across this post - must have missed it

".e. we're looking at making just the movie theater a tight, fight for your life style map for 16 players as well as a smaller 2-4 player split screen map)"


eat it bitch!

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Yes, there is a picture of the movie theater level in the TMPS3 screen shot thread.  You can see a bunch of seats all facing the screen, and the ramp doing downwards, but it doesn't show the actual movie screen at all.  And plenty of PS3 games use dedicated servers.  Instead of listing them, I'll just say if it's exclusive, and it has an online in mind (Killzone 2, NOT Uncharted 2) then it's dedicated.

Sony uses PS3s as their servers.  Or they at least did in 2008.  I don't think it's cost effective anymore in 2010 though, and I would be surprised if they didn't remove those and include an up-to-date server room.

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Oh God, maartyr got his fucking movie theatre.  Merry Christmas!  Haha.

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TM PLAY TEST QUESTION: For fans of the series, do you like it when A) EVERY contestant gets fucked over at the (cont) http://tl.gd/7qrgpr


the link won't work for me...wonder what the rest of it says

edit: nevermind

TM PLAY TEST QUESTION: For fans of the series, do you like it when A) EVERY contestant gets fucked over at the end (be it via their own stupidity, Calypso's evilness, or a mix) OR B) Some contestants have a shitty ending, some have happy endings (happy meaning they get what they thought they were asking for OR end up having something good happen to them...ex: Tooth at the end of TMB where he still had to deal with his flaming head BUT killed Calypso and ended up happy with his ending)?

A or B or C (C=NONE of the above or C= I got a better idea for endings but I know I am not allowed to give you ideas so I'll just keep them to myself).

Thanks ya'll!

David

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B. Like it always has been!

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I chose B. If it was A, we're going to be expecting something negative to happen, and expecting something is not very fun. B to keep us on edge to guess what might happen in the end.

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Kilrgrn wrote on 12/31/10 at 05:23:11:

I chose B. If it was A, we're going to be expecting something negative to happen, and expecting something is not very fun. B to keep us on edge to guess what might happen in the end.

Plus too if it were A it would kind of turn out like TM3 just stupid. I told him B obviously you need a few redemptive stories or at least interesting twists done by circumstance. All in all there is always a few feel good stories (Axle TM2, Shadow TMB) in the Twisted world. Granted the sick and gruesome outnumber them but still you need a few good ones.

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Based on tweets I'm thinkin we MIGHT get info next friday or maybe the next. /crosses fingers

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WannaB in upcoming issue of EGM?Send them a question 4 me about ANYTHING at inputoutput@egmnow.net and maybe we'll be in the mag 2gether!

Me and Geoff shootin some GTTV! Thx hametrailers! http://twitpic.com/3prz4l

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Geoff tweeted that their interview will be airing soon for GTTV.

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Gotta love 'Hametrailers', man.

The main title screen, or what it appears to look like, looks really cool. Is that a skyscraper I see on the far right of the TV screen?

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http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/25758788317347841

:D

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Fuck. I guess I need to break down and make a twitter account. I've already broken down and made a Facebook so why not just completely conform. I'll justify it by using it strictly to follow Jaffe and get TM tid bits.

Why world?! Why do you have to be so lame.

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Sferano wrote on 01/14/11 at 09:44:23:

http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/25758788317347841 :D

I'm sure it will air either on Jan 27th or Feb 3rd according to Spike.com. Won't be long before we get any new juicy infos!

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I hope there is some real new info. Not just another general interview about game dev.

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Next new episode of gametrailers airs on spike tv jan. 20th at 10:10 pst. Description of the episode is a behind the scenes look at deadspace 2. So I have it set to record regardless if they show tm or not.

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Ok Twisted Metal fans: if you HAD to choose- Twisted DARK/SINISTER Twisted Metal...or Twisted FUNNY/DARK HUMOR Twisted Metal?

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This is something I could never decide on honestly.

I hope this is soemthing for the future (or maybe a hidden campaign or 2) since I was under the impression the 3 full stories for the characters were al done?

Sorry Maart, first reply and its 'undecided'

Hmmm, actually put me down for D/S


EDIT: I've posted this on the ESP site for max coverage.
I seen this over an hour ago and have been so busy with ebay it didnt even cross my mind to paste the tweet.

Good man Maart, its just you and me as always I guess...

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haha, its all good as long as it gets posted by someone.  i went with dark and sinister too, i replied back on jaffe's twitter.  

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Its a bit weird tho innit?

I'm sure he said all of the stories were done months ago.
Now I think he might have just meant all of the cutscenes filmed.

The game probably has story snippets inbetween events/levels like TMB.

OR better still he could be building some form of bonus story or campaign for a hidden character or 2.

One of the other guys here has mentioned that he wouldn't be suprised with a bonus campaign for maybe Preach or Axel and as a nod back to the older games it would be a comic style or dark cg style like TM2/Black respectively.

Either that or just a simple text ending but I think they could easily build a small extra story(s) like the older games in a small amount of time.

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Humor all the way.  Sinister without humor is boring.
But, I don't really care.  I just want a badass online twisted metal experience that out does tm2pc.  That's all folks.

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Mix of both if it can be done.

If it can be pulled off, you'll have plot twists every turn.

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Jaffe's just tweeted some updates about their latest play tests:

"Holy shit! We just got 9, 8, 9, 7, 8 ratings for Fun factor in our on going TWISTED play test in Santa Monica! Given this is a BRAND new level and NONE of the vehicles were tuned (they all still drive the exact same) and TONS OF SHIT is broken and not working, I'll take that as a damn good sign! But that was only game 1/6. Let's hope it holds! :)"

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awesome stuff...yeah def a summer release lol

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...of 2012

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Haha, I hope not. But it does sound really promising how the play test turned out. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the new TM is gonna go through the fucking roof in terms of fun factor.

I wonder what this brand new level is.. Maybe the desert level they showed at Comic Con only more refined?

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"Holy shit! Latest OVERALL scores from play test group #2: 10, 10, 9, 8.5, 10! And from the BUY/RENT/PASS question? ALL BUYS! Totally surprised and NOT saying our game is at a 10,9. or 8 level yet as a whole but fuck, that's a sweet ass Friday surprise! Thanks Gaming Gods!"

Fuck yeah.

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If the cars haven't even been balanced/tweaked yet I think we are looking at a 2nd half year release boys.

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thats what I was saying in one of the other threads.. no way they can have that shit tweaked and finished in the next couple months..

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Archminion wrote on 01/22/11 at 09:44:52:

If the cars haven't even been balanced/tweaked yet I think we are looking at a 2nd half year release boys.

They haven't been tweaked for the build that they were demoing doesn't mean they haven't put the work into it nor that they don't have a build where they are tweaked.

Jaffe said the game was in Alpha at the beginning of January so that's likely where they are at a early Alpha build. I think we are looking at a June to July release. Gears 3 and Madden are both slated for August so that pretty much starts the fall season for games.

Likely Sony wants to get Twisted Metal in some time before then. I have said I think its going to be sometime in June. The game goes to Alpha in January they get 6 months to tweak, polish, and balance the game makes sense.  

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Latest tweets show a pic of Jaffe playing Twisted Metal 2, talking about dying as Hammerhead in Moscow. That shit makes me a happy panda.

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So a release date of 12/31/11 is off by a bit, and the game isn't being released in december. lol

Such a Tease!

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11 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »
davidscottjaffe
"http://bit.ly/dFwtxe YellowJacket- tweet me good sir! Are you interested in selling your amazing collection? Would love 2 get those 4 our office if the price is right! :)"

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From ESP Boards.

David Jaffe:

"Thumpa- I am sitting with Scott, Kellan, and the team in a few weeks to tune the vehicles and get them all nice and differentiated. In all the footage you are seeing, all the cars are still all driving the same: they are all going 120mph, all have the SAME turn radius,etc. We've just not gotten around to that work yet and so that is why some of the cars seem like they go too fast and are too responsive for their size/design. That will be fixed. I know that's not the core of your issue tho with the speeds, but just FYI.

As to the core of your issue (game is too fast and was in TMB as well): we hear you and we've discussed this a handful of times as well, from the very beginning of TM PS3 development. No time to go into the pros and cons right now (slammed with the game) but I'm sure Scott, myself, and Kellan would be happy to share the philosophies later on when we have the time.

However:

In the course of doing that work, if there is time, Scott and I will slow it all down by about 25% and just see how it plays. My feeling is 'not so good' (I think we've tried this experiment before) BUT if it works (in its own old school way) and IF there is time (be it in the retail game or via DLC or an update) perhaps we could put in a secret code that lets you play the game (unranked matches only) at more of a TM2 pace...again, just brainstorming out loud. This may happen, may not, Scott and Kellan may be like, "Dude! Are you fucking high!? Oh hell no!"or they may love the idea......so who knows...but we'll give it a try. Let you know. Thanks for the great support and passion for the series (goes for all of you regulars!)

David"

Sounds to me that the cars are not balanced at all yet as far as speed/handling stats are concerned.

I did say this.

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I haven't really put much thought into that while watching the videos. The only thing I noticed pertaining to this topic lately was how smooth Axel looked like he controlled when trying to run over people with his special. It looks like, at least from how hes set up now if it stays that way, that it will be much easier to ram/crunch people with his secondary special than in TMB/O.

As far as the speed of the game, I just don't understand this argument much. I mean, its come up at TMA a lot over the years, but the speed of the game looks fine to me. Of course, I always did prefer Black over TM2 though.

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pretty funny how jaffe is having to apologize for his comments about new video game hardware being like "fresh vagina"...

he apologized for offending people. but some people just wont let it go, namely some mormon who keeps talking to jaffe.

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It's sad that peeps can't just take it as water off a ducks back and have a laugh.

Jaffe is treat the way high profile actors and politicians are.

You can't say fuck all w/o someone making news of it.

Fucking parasites.

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The terror is born! Ok maybe not yet but ya gotta go thru this to get the terror :) http://twitpic.com/3whqvi

Ok a touch more terror! Ok , back to work! http://twitpic.com/3whr3j

Sweet!! ::)

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Is it me or does this ST not look that fat?

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He looks the same size as the one in the teaser trailer

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The sweettooth they had at E3 isn't the actor that will be in the game. You can see the real actor in those pics and comicon footage.

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"Actuallt TMA (lost my password :( so I can't sign in)- to clear it up: totally different actor. We all agreed the first guy was cool but for the end game stories it seemed a buff dude would sell as more scary."
David

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Wait so Jaffe has an account here he just lost the password? Someone get on that. I saw a TMJaffe registered under the members but I don't know if that's actually his or not. I tried to see if my mod abilities would let me find his password but I don't really know what I'm doing with everything yet or if I even could look at something like that.

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Someone get Jaffe his password!!! I can't get a hold of him on the clusterfuck Twitter!  Plus having his presence here would be good for us as well as him.. maybe some of the shit we talk and banter about wanting in game may come to pass.. he knows we're the die-hards, maybe we can help flesh some of this out!

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I reset his password and shot him an email with the new one.

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Good Man,

It'll be great if Jaffe pops in from time to time.

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Jaffe finally @YellowJacketTMA me.. we'll see where it goes from here. He asked what I wanted for them. I said to make me an offer.  I want to see what they're willing to offer me, then I'll go a bit lower money wise so long as I can meet him and campbell and hand deliver, maybe get something signed.  

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"There is no candy in me, there is no candy in me. I'm just a little boy there is no candy in me.", Tweeted Jaffe.


What the?

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I was curious too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue_NfqQJoXs

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Well he does have kids, they where probably watching it? Just guessing...

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"Hard to tell but that arrow is pointing to the live feed stream I'm watching on my desktop! Man, tech rocks! http://yfrog.com/hsnq5pbj"
trying to send a message??

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"NOW they get 2talk about our baby!And I get 2 isten! Terribly stressful/exciting/enlightening/helpful/invaluable!"
http://yfrog.com/h2phtp

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CrimsonTooth wrote on 02/12/11 at 19:34:36:

"Hard to tell but that arrow is pointing to the live feed stream I'm watching on my desktop! Man, tech rocks! http://yfrog.com/hsnq5pbj" trying to send a message??

Sweet Tooth lookin' really cool.

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http://video.foxnews.com/v/4538052/twisted-metal-updating-the-classic/

also Dave had a small interview about TM in the new game informer (march 2011)

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Maart: Do you have this interview, maybe scan it?

cheers

The new video interview from jaffe and Scott is good: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4538052/twisted-metal-updating-the-classic/

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I like how they referenced TM2 as being better almost because of system limitations. Helped it immensely in being more strategic.

Plus that they are so focused on combat depth is key. Love these guys.

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Is the interview worth buying the mag?

edit: "Tomorrow we will be posting our exclusive interview with J.S Gilbert, the voice of Sweet Tooth in the forthcoming Twisted Metal on Playstation 3. Stay tuned for another great read..........."
http://www.facebook.com/TheGamingLiberty

Never seen the site before but apparently its Irelands No.1 gaming site! lol

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I dont have a scanner that works well at all...and no I wouldnt buy the mag for the interview...its just him being interviewed about games getting a reboot

that js gilbert was the voice of the the TMblack sweet tooth too

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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8r5e76

interesting tweet describing the sniper attack in TMPS3. Sounds pretty deep and definitely a sneaky weapon. feign an attack just to draw shields or force enemies into moving to cover.

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that's pretty nice find roadie...Now the last peace of the puzzle for the sniper weapon:  I(think) saw in the vids that different cars take various amounts of time to get a full charge/instant death.

Also, I wonder if we can sorta manually aim the other weapons, Like if two cars are attacking team mates and you can see that the car that is further away has less health - I wonder if you can select that car to concentrate your fire on to quickly get rid of it

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@davidscottjaffe david how much more is there to do on TM? OR CAN YOU SAY? like percent wise??

@Demonic_Clown46 Hmmm...it would just be a guess but I'd say core content is around 90-95%? Perhaps more? Tuning that content and polishing

@Demonic_Clown46 that content is more like 60%...give or take?!?

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Hey what's up maartyrr? It's me Ramirez83...from Blood Drive(PSN and Youtube.

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Thanks Road. That is probably the most valuable piece of info that has been posted on TMA in a while.

I've been curious about the sniper weapon for a while and always assumed it was a natural progression of the reticle from TMBO. This just confirms it.

I'm cool with a one hit kill sniper weapon as long as it takes a huge amount of skill and practice. Let's just hope there aren't tons of unlimited weapons games popping up where HATEMACHINE just sits back and uses sniper rounds the whole times.

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I still have to re-mention something I said before:

I hope the one shot kill Sniper doesn't have a massive edge over slower moving larger targets?
I'm sure its being addressed but nothing's mentioned yet.

(Can't wait for the J.S. Gilbert interview btw...)

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Ramiro83 wrote on 02/15/11 at 06:27:36:

Hey what's up maartyrr? It's me Ramirez83...from Blood Drive(PSN and Youtube.

what up brotha, glad to see you finally made it over here. - a few members here have blood drive too.

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the interview with JS Gilbert

http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/02/15/sweet-tooth-speaks-an-interview-with-j-s-gilbert/

edit: sorry about the double post, I clicked on the modify button 5 times and it kept timing out.

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Sounds like a tough career, I hope they were able to get mel McMurrin in the game somewhere!

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Cheers bud! Checking out the interview now...

And Maart I've had a few great (short) BD sessions these last couple of days.
I've finished Dead Space 1 so b4 I move into the second I'm spending a bit time with Nazar & Pals for a while... :)

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TMShan88 wrote on 02/15/11 at 17:35:17:

Sounds like a tough career, I hope they were able to get mel McMurrin in the game somewhere!

Voice-over game announcer would be sick.

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http://twitpic.com/40xxgb

now he's locking in edits for the tm game movies.

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I'd actually love Mel McM to come in after the game credits and say the immortal catchphrase "I thank you..."

Just for a tiny cameo nod back to TM2.

I think this would be very feasible as well since he got back in touch with Jaffe recently.

I'm hoping they show some of the original footage for the ending videos at some point Maart.

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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8tubis

Just sent this IM to a team mate at Eat Sleep Play as we've been debating KILL ASSISTS and KILL STEALING in the new TWISTED METAL game. Thought it was worth sharing as- over the years- I've fully embraced the Beginner's Mind/William Goldman 'Nobody Knows Anything' approach to iterative game design:

'Until you implement a mechanic, so much of game design is just fun theory/philosophy debate. 90% of the time, the way you thought a game mechanic would cause a player to behave doesn't end up causing that behavior at all!'
'Until you implement a mechanic, so much of game design is just fun theory/philosophy debate. 90% of the time, the way you thought a game mechanic would cause a player to respond doesn't end up causing that behavior at all!'

thought that was interesting to say the least...maybe kills only game won't be that bad around this time


Myself, Scott, Kellan, and a few other members on the Eat Sleep Play team are kicking the design ball around, trying things.
I love the mechanics of giving you something (both a bell and whistle pat on the back AND a play reward) for ever increasing
KILLSTREAKS. Especially in a game like TWISTED METAL where we really want to build tension so players scramble and fight 2 stay alive. It really makes you want to survive to keep that Killstreak going. I DO NOT like how a lot of recent games have broken  the balance of the game- in my opinion- with very game changing Killstreaks. I also like Killstreaks that keep you in control of your avatar that earned the killstreak in the first place as it allows the flow of the experience to remain intact.

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Great stuff Mr. Maart.

I hope he does look into kill stealing.
I hate this in any game and of late it ruins Blood Drive.

It's all the tweaks I think now. Up until release am guessing.#


EDIT: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8tv4v7
The man is a prophet

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^ Damn straight. I admire Jaffe and his willingness to verbally talk as much shit as he can for what he believes in. Damn good man!

I completely believe in him as long as he does what he loves doing and is proud of his work. I salute you, sir!

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He shoulda just made a blog post lol.

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kills dont matter when you have net damage or lms.

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By category. Pick ups, special weapons, level specific sounds, etc. Many sounds are in, going thru bit by bit&tagging those that  need some audio engineering attention/love and those that are simply not currently in the game yet. Good example: one of the  levels has a toy store the players can battle in and destroy. We GOTTA have a happy little toy store/kid's ditty playing while the place is getting shot up to hell :)

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Well you know what they say...(takes off sunglasses)

A car in a toy store is like a kid in a candy store.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

For-whard...REVERSE...for-whard...REVERSE.


Tons of love for those that get the references here.

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And we'll know about the GDC plans by the end of tomorrow... :)

Just to add. Mr.J is on a tweet rampage. There's to much to repost here but defo go through his latest set of tweets.

Some good info in there on possible DLC.

I can feel a new topic coming on...

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haha why don't you take over for a while arch and upload his tweets?

@Demonic_Clown46 No - but since you don't know our release date yet, why don't we just pretend when we announce it that it's early :)

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I fucking give up.. he says he wants my collection. I send him tweet after tweet and he answers everyone else but me.  Who else wants to buy this shit?  

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hey yj, have you tried sending him a direct message?  or I would tweet him for his email address so you can talk that way.  Not making excuses but if your tweets could get buried in the thousands of tweets that come his way

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I can't direct message him cause he doesn't follow me.  Try and get his email sure. Thanks Maart, I appreciate it.  I know he's busy with the game and stuff, but people constantly sending me messages on here about "Jaffe wants you to get in touch with him" etc and I try and it's getting annoying.  Twitter can suck my fucking balls.  That's the worst website ever created.

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haha no probs, I'll try to help out this too then...also, if you're registered on the ESP boards you can send him a direct message that way - under user control panel/compose message.

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http://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/statuses/40598704985481216

spreadsheet pic/info.

Team Hunted game. (Team LMS possibly?)

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I think TDM prolly stands for team death match. And maybe team hunted is something like having to hunt down a marked target on the opposing team and vice versa. Which sounds like it could be a ton of fun!
Especially since there will be more buildings and stuff ppl can bunker down in now.

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If TH isn't a standard TLMS match then it could be similar to 'Hero' from Warhawk?

http://warhawk.wikia.com/wiki/Hero_%28game_mode%29

A very cool mode.

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That's what I was thinking, or team manhunt from tmb/tmho.  That would be awesome.  That would almost be similar to the protect the king matches we used to have in tmbo:  1 car on each side was a king while the others had to protect them and kill the opposing king.  The kings had 5 lives while everyone else had infinite.

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i wish i could contact david jaffe on his twitter or david jaffe biz? asked him to put closed captions (subtitles) in the new twisted metal game cutscenes, cause im hearing impaired (deaf). always wished he'd put them in the old games. twitters shit as and he doesnt reply, is there a way i could contact him? cheers =]

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awww, Serpentine has a friend now  :P

yea, we've had a couple members try to contact him via Twitter, and he's unresponsive. even to someone from here that he WANTS to get in contact with. Twitter is def retarded

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http://www.davidjaffe.biz/


new blog up

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Blog post

Sunday, March 06, 2011
DOLLFACE AS COVERGIRL!

Yes, I'm back. No long explanations, no super secretive reasons. The team and I have just been super busy with the game and so it's been much faster to stay in touch via Twitter. But I'm back now. Got a lot to say these days, lots of cool stuff going on to observe and chat about ,etc.


So let's begin, shall we?


First up: Twisted Metal made the cover of the new GAMEPRO! Check it out!









Thanks for all the work and support GamePro! Super appreciated by us all! The cover and the article turned out just great!


Also, thanks for the Bunnies idea! If we're fortunate enough to do a TWISTED METAL 2, now I know the FIRST thing I want to propose to the team! :)


And before I forget: to some of the fans out there complaining that we didn't spill any new game specific beans in the article:


#1- I think this is a fantastic and very informative article about the history of the series, some cool behind the scenes stuff, insight into how we make the games and work as a team, a few new pieces of art that shows off what could be coming down the line.


#2-We know ya'll want new info and I promise: new game related info is coming very soon. It's not my place to go into the PR strategies or give out information release dates but rest assured: the game is coming along GREAT, it WILL HIT STORE SHELVES IN 2011, and sooner than later we're gonna start showing our hand.


We were actually going to unveil some new stuff at last week's GDC (and the team busted ASS to get the build looking and playing AMAZING!)... but at the last minute we decided to pull it. We all just felt that Twisted Metal is the kind of title that needs more attention and time than we would get by being sandwiched in between some of the MEGATON news announcements that dropped at last week's show.


To put it another way: so many games these days are big, epic, story events and Twisted Metal is PROUDLY and LOUDLY a GAME above all else! So we felt the game's next big reveal needed a little more breathing room than we would get at GDC; away from the bombast of the epic story based games and announcements/displays of next-gen tech. For us, the next time we show off the game we want to really make it clear that- to journalists and fans alike- that we feel we have something really fun and really special in today's market.


Thanks for understanding!

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New info coming very soon eh? Heard that before:

@Adz2k7 I can't, sorry :(...I mean I CAN/I KNOW but I can't say. New Twisted info coming soon. I know I keep saying that but it's true! :)  5 march 2011 20:41:39 via TweetDeck

@MENDOZA3128 The only release date hint is that we will announce the release date very soon. Lame answer but not my beans 2 spill. vrijdag 28 january 2011 20:17:14 via TweetDeck in reply to MENDOZA3128

@NJDEV89 New info IS coming very soon. We're working on it now: making trailers, screen shots, setting up the events, etc. vrijdag 14 january 2011 8:13:21 via TweetDeck in reply to NJDEV89

The only bothering new thing was some footage from the extented GTTV interview IMO

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Another blog update http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/2011/03/its-beginning-to-look-lot-like-comic.html

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http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/2011/03/ramblin-man.html


READ! AND WATCH!

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I think Jaffe does either cocaine or crack. Hes so fidgety and all over the place, haha. Smoking pot with him would be awesome. We could probably solve all the worlds problem and those of TMs gameplay in a couple hours with a fat bowl pack.

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problems with TM's gameplay!?
But Xiz don't you know?

TM's gameplay is perfect !

;)

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Well, nothing is perfect. But I was mostly referring to the technical design aspects they are still ironing out with the new game. Me, Jaffe, Scott, a nice fat bong and sack of weed...game would be finished tomorrow.

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Fuck I'd hate to see the result with a bong involved...

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You underestimate the power of good weed and bongs my friend.

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Archminion wrote on 03/10/11 at 18:56:54:

http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/2011/03/ramblin-man.html READ! AND WATCH!

Interesting. Good that he admits kill stealing is a problem.

However..........

I feel too much importance has been placed THIS GEN in shooters on "OH I GOT THE KILL YAY" or "MY K/D ratio is sooo high". He says himself, Scott and some team members feel the kill bounty reward is nullified which imo is slightly off-base of whats important but not in the wrong mindset altogether.

Team games kills don't/shouldn't matter anyways, its about helping your team survive and widdling down the enemy's team. Who cares who lands the deathblow, its a team effort. In TM games, a dozen factors go into getting a player from full green to red pixel. Not one shot from one bullet like a shooter.

As I always say: To Call of Duty players, teammates are just people who are there to steal your kills.

Its why team shared lives is so damn good and aids in keeping the pace offensive.

You have to actively move around and protect teammates to stop them from dying. Their lives lost = your lives lost = your team loses. So none of this "oh ill just sit in the corner and snipe/camp/run away" BS; because in a 4v4 game, if one teammate is out sitting in the corner.... a 3v4 is gunna be one ugly slaughter.

The reinforced theme of "your team shares lives" forces you to think of ways to protect teammates; that in and of itself promotes teamwork and healthy strategy evolves over time. A simple game mode can promote game play that is intended by the devs - offensive based, fast, and strategic.

I could write essays on this shit for life.

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RoaDiE wrote on 03/11/11 at 04:22:13:

I could write essays on this shit for life.

please don't LoL

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That one guy wrote on 03/11/11 at 21:12:50:

please don't LoL

awww :'(

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Honestly, if you want a comprihensive, in depth review of what modes and gameplay should be, talking to Road is a good idea.

A vet for TM2 and TMB. I wouldn't shun his advice.

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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/115/1155383p1.html


new interview with Dave Jaffe

credits go to eakius for pointing me to this article

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Some idiot just tweeted Dave and asked him if the sky is going to be orange in every level...

Ok, that was me...

A dumb, minor little complaint...

Don't know if it has been discussed or if anyone cares... one thing that has always bothered me since they debuted gameplay footage in june is the look of the sky in the Suburbs level, being orange and cloudy and stuff... personally, I don't like it. I didn't really dig that aspect of tmb and was hoping that part of it wouldn't return. I want to see some sun in at least some of the levels. I feel like I can have more fun if the sun is shining down on me. Jaffe has reassured me they won't all be that way, though... well, more or less anyway. Come to think of it, i should have been more specific, I only asked about the orange. It's the Goddamned clouds that I hate more than anything... ahh fuck.

We'll see... Like he said we've only seen a couple.

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It's orange because it's dusk, not because the theme is dark and evil. And unless it's night time, there's going to be something in the sky, because having a blank color makes the creators look lazy. :P

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I don't like the colour of some of the markings on the ST gang members masks.

Also there was a certain piece of road in one of the levels- far to grey in my opinion...

:-?

Fucking hell things are bad if we're down to talking about this shit.

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There doesn't have to be anything in the sky. There wasn't in tm2. Don't mind it here and there, 'know what I'm sayin'', I was just worried about all of the environments looking that way.

There's nothing left to talk about but the little things, for now. And its the little things that matter most. Like the color of roadboats front tire lug nut.

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Thats all nice and good but lets just keep this topic for actual tweets from jaffe that are relevant to the new TM.

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Archminion wrote on 03/17/11 at 23:20:50:

Thats all nice and good but lets just keep this topic for actual tweets from jaffe that are relevant to the new TM.

Thank you

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jaffe twitteroos: http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/

(Calypso pic?)

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Archminion wrote on 03/19/11 at 19:41:27:

jaffe twitteroos: http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/ (Calypso pic?)

It looks like Chevy Chase to me.

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uh so, what are we going to say for the unranked matches/ranked matches? and unlim weapons? he seems to want to know what we think?

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I say we should have everything unlocked in multy except skins maybe, and then for private matches there should be an unlimited weapons option. Especially if there's Grasshopper in the game, you could find glitches using the special.

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heh, that was awesome.. "UNLIM WEAPONS ARE A NO-NO" lol

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Archminion wrote on 03/19/11 at 19:41:27:

(Calypso pic?)

Here's a pic,
http://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/49169417577316353

The Antarctica may be =)

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Sferano wrote on 03/20/11 at 02:04:30:

Here's a pic, http://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/49169417577316353 The Antarctica may be =)

Holy shit yes! I was hoping for a Calypso influenced more from the one of TM2.

This just keeps getting better and better!

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in that same tweet about unranked/ranked unlims... hes says "prepping for a TWISTED METAL media event next month"

new info finally? :)

http://davidjaffe.biz/  awesome blog post that tells of everything he is doing for TM this weekend. some have already discussed it but its really a must-see.

Unlims should not be in ANY game modes. Absolutely horrendous and half reason TMBO didn't live up to its potential.

Unlock everything in unranked. Fuck ranked. I just wanna make my own lobby and play with TMA'ers.

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RoaDiE wrote on 03/20/11 at 19:46:15:

in that same tweet about unranked/ranked unlims... hes says "prepping for a TWISTED METAL media event next month" new info finally? :) http://davidjaffe.biz/  awesome blog post that tells of everything he is doing for TM this weekend. some have already discussed it but its really a must-see. Unlims should not be in ANY game modes. Absolutely horrendous and half reason TMBO didn't live up to its potential. Unlock everything in unranked. Fuck ranked. I just wanna make my own lobby and play with TMA'ers.

Yeah he also said it on his blog about he is prepping for a TM media event next month.

http://criminalcrackdown.blogspot.com/

He has had a lot of posts lately although a lot of it isn't TM related but one post he made has a lot of TM stuff.

Either way to get a release date or substantial info in April is a good thing.

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Well at least we know we will be getting some info next month.

Unlimited weapons just shouldn't be in the game or at least not in ranked. If Jaffe is looking for players to fully experience the game, play a certain way, and discover the depth it has then dumbing down the game with unlimited weapons and allowing players to just spam power weapons and specials mindlessly, taking away any strategy and skill involved, isn't going to do much to encourage long term play.

Unlimited weapons ruined TMBO for the most part but that was a different time and a different set up. I don't see that happening again as long as unlimited weapons aren't in ranked matches. If a group of lamers want to get together and just go buck wild on each other in a private match with those settings then so be it. Considering I'll mostly be doing private or ranked matches with friends I'm not to concerned about it overall though.

And everything should be unlocked in unranked games but either way I'll probably be playing enough TM that even if things are locked in unranked then I'll unlock them eventually anyways.

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http://twitpic.com/4c89nn

Pic of a vehicle we haven't seen b4

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Interesting. Wonder what this is. It appears as though its shooting some sort of blue grenades.

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looks like an suv...shooting blue grenade/maybe missiles...could it be outlaw?  There was an icon with the name SUV above it the gttv interview...

so now we have the cars:

classic
tank car
esport

that need to be figured out

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maartyrr wrote on 03/22/11 at 23:27:27:

could it be outlaw?

this is what i was thinking. wite top, black bottom; its gotta be outlaw. the itmes being shot could be like super tazers lol

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can anyone read what  the text says?

It looks like SUV turret 5 pts
and at the bottom it says

press FIRE for Grenades

cuz baby I catch a grenade for ya...throw my hand on a blade for ya...i'd jump infront of a train for ya...alright i'm done

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my first thought was Outlaw too.. it'd be cool if they were EMP claws :)

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you can see a clown mounting a turret if you looks closely...so this is close to tmb outlaw...i think having a big bad suburban/escallade is pretty bad ass

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I think you have to have unlimited an option in unranked games as a developer ... just seems like you'd want your consumer base to have the option to just hop in a game and blast away mindlessly.

I never played unlim in TMBO unless it was to grief Hi or Hatemachine, but I do think it should be an option.  It should be less of a detriment this time though as long as its only available in unranked matches.  I also think everything should be unlocked in unranked matches.

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Yeah it looked very beaten up in the pic so wasn't actually sure if it had been seen or not. Wasn't sure whether it was worth postin last night...

But yes it does appear to have a character poppin out of the top but surely if it was Outlaw it would have the blues & twos as well?

I can't see them so maybe its a new vehicle completely?

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It definitely seems like the TMB Outlaw special, but it doesn't look much like a SWAT truck.  Its probably Outlaw, though. They wouldn't leave it out.

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At first glance the car looked alot longer to me.  Almost like a Strech SUV.

Its probablly a SUV very similar to Outlaw from TMB, but something's telling me it's not a cop SUV.

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I agree with Surgeon.

I just don't think the cop swat SUV will fit in with the game's theme.
There's no lights on top either.

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good point.  At first I though that red thing looked like a lightbar, but then i realized it was just the damage indicator. It almost looks like it has writing on the back, or am I just seeing things?

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There was a tracer shot message as well- similar to TMB Outlaw.

I think if Outlaw does return he should be an armoured up 70's style cop car (check out some of the old TMB concept art!)

Keep this classic as some DLC I say.

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Seems pretty generic looking, maybe they are going the customization route which would be cool. In the GTTV interview jaffe said they were doing stuff not yet announced that should keep fans entertained for years.

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Yeah, if anything this may be more like Outlaw from TMBO in the spiritual sense.

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I liked Outlaw from TM1 and TM2 a lot more than TMB Outlaw.

I just think that the Swat car angle for me at least doesn't work as well as a standard cop car. I hope that this isn't Outlaw but rather just another car. I really prefer Outlaw with his older special and more suited with the less dark style this game seems to be taken on.

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I was thinking that fbi and swat, do use those big suv's as undercover cars...so maybe its an undercover version of outlaw

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tmfan89 wrote on 03/24/11 at 03:52:32:

I liked Outlaw from TM1 and TM2 a lot more than TMB Outlaw. I really prefer Outlaw with his older special

This is the reason why TMB has my least favorite Outlaw. It didn't had the tazar special. As a matter of fact, there are some other cars that should have never got their special changed, but that's been complained enough.

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Check out Grimm's 'bike' over at Jaffe's...

EDIT:  Cool: http://twitpic.com/4cthsw

AND MORE: http://twitpic.com/4cubls

Nice behind the scenes stuff.

Thank you so much David Jaffe!

This is what I'm talking about... :) :)

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Notice he doesn't have the locks anymore. Maybe they decided to do away with them? Or maybe it's just suppose to be a shot of the characters early development.

Maybe they took notice when people thought darth vader was driving the vehicles in the game trailer footage. lol

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I think its his prologue.

This is probably his father in the process of dying...

And no doubt there'll be something sinister behind that.

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two more:

twitpic.com/4cvdfy

twitpic.com/4cvdis

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Like Arch said I'm sure that's his prologue showing what happened to change him.

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Say.

Thats a nice bike...

8-)

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Archminion wrote on 03/24/11 at 22:12:44:

Say. Thats a nice bike... 8-)

T-1000!

Have you seen this boy....

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This better be scenes from the past, cause that white disco outfit is too clean.

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http://i.imgur.com/K1gVy.jpg

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Babadingldoo wrote on 03/25/11 at 02:59:40:

This better be scenes from the past, cause that white disco outfit is too clean.

Didnt you know man, Mr Grimm is all about some disco.

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CrimsonTooth wrote on 03/24/11 at 21:47:21:

two more: twitpic.com/4cvdfy twitpic.com/4cvdis

Is it just me, or is Grimm attached to some acrobatic wire? I think "the moment that changes everything" is an epic crash. Any thoughts?

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SPOILER ALERT: He's Ghost Rider.

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Yea. ACTUALLY! Sweet Tooth + Grimm = Ghost Rider!!!!!
But seriously, anyone else notice those wires?

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yeah they're pretty clear.

here's another pic (don't footh with the tooth)

http://twitpic.com/4dcf14

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Yea. Like Jaffe said in his blog post, Unlims is a no-no with the TMA crowd. This was a gigantic issue at the old site in it's hey-day.

It was definately not a warm welcome at the site when you were a known Unlimer. Didn't matter if you didn't know any better, or thought it was cool, or even a legit way to play the game. (Hatemachine)

There was a certain stench that rankled the legit players of TMBO at TMA that was very hard to get by. Untill that player proved himself MANY times over he could convert to playing the game just in the regular setting, much less Net Damage, he would never get by the Unlim tag that followed him around in other players minds.

I can tell you it's not really fun. At all. I can also tell you your skills at the game will be stunted and will not make you a better player. There is far more skill in learning how to play correctly, than with Unlims in your arsenal.

Sure it's fun and brainless. That's what it's for. For people who can't cope with the word strategy.  

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I like The Man's stance on public Beta's.

It's what I was saying before.
If you have a chance to get involved with a Beta then it aint just an early pass to play the demo.

You are expected to put some real work into it.

I think it's why so many other MP games aren't as great as expected when the final product ships because so many peeps just played a heavily distributed Beta for fun- no real feedback which is what its meant for.

IF TM goes the route of a smaller semi-private/public beta it will be a very positive thing.

You'll have the 'Old Guard' players sifting through the whole thing and they will know EXACTLY what issues to pinpoint.

Plus you will have no kiddie noobs just playing because they sub'd to PSN+ or something and fucking up the gameplay testing.

If its a group of guys who get on well and know what to do they can communicate together while playing in order to test as much as possible.

You have a sharp mind Mr. Jaffe.

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Archminion wrote on 03/26/11 at 16:05:43:

I like The Man's stance on public Beta's. It's what I was saying before. If you have a chance to get involved with a Beta then it aint just an early pass to play the demo. You are expected to put some real work into it. I think it's why so many other MP games aren't as great as expected when the final product ships because so many peeps just played a heavily distributed Beta for fun- no real feedback which is what its meant for. IF TM goes the route of a smaller semi-private/public beta it will be a very positive thing. You'll have the 'Old Guard' players sifting through the whole thing and they will know EXACTLY what issues to pinpoint. Plus you will have no kiddie noobs just playing because they sub'd to PSN+ or something and fucking up the gameplay testing. If its a group of guys who get on well and know what to do they can communicate together while playing in order to test as much as possible. You have a sharp mind Mr. Jaffe.

I would love to beta test for this game, I'd probably dedicate an entire weekend to nitpicking and peeling the thing apart and then again the next.

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an entire weekend. that, sir, is dedication..












http://www.j-body.org/global/images/emoticons/ag.gif

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DC, did you just find some bin of emoticons or something? Every fucking post os just... emoticons.

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Archminion wrote on 03/26/11 at 16:05:43:

I like The Man's stance on public Beta's. It's what I was saying before. If you have a chance to get involved with a Beta then it aint just an early pass to play the demo. You are expected to put some real work into it. I think it's why so many other MP games aren't as great as expected when the final product ships because so many peeps just played a heavily distributed Beta for fun- no real feedback which is what its meant for. IF TM goes the route of a smaller semi-private/public beta it will be a very positive thing. You'll have the 'Old Guard' players sifting through the whole thing and they will know EXACTLY what issues to pinpoint. Plus you will have no kiddie noobs just playing because they sub'd to PSN+ or something and fucking up the gameplay testing. If its a group of guys who get on well and know what to do they can communicate together while playing in order to test as much as possible. You have a sharp mind Mr. Jaffe.

I always liked public betas However I think those only work for sequels to popular games that already have a huge release that came out a few years earlier.

For games that are new IP's or are reboots of an older franchise need to take good care of their games in big private betas. Make sure you have dedicated players taking good care of the beta giving great feedback.

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Actually, it's the opposite. You need a public beta for a small game to build hype. You use a private beta for large, popular sequels so that people will order it to get in.

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Only reason for public beta is to to make sure your servers don't suck ass. And the only reason those public betas fill up fast is because the current mindset is that they are demos to see if you want to buy the game or not.

I'm against public betas

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"Plus you will have no kiddie noobs just playing because they sub'd to PSN+ or something and fucking up the gameplay testing."

That was one of the things I think made TMBO what it was when it was released.

When it was beta'd, the questions that were asked were ridgid and you'd have to chose from A to D. Choosing only ONE answer too, so if there were actually 2 answers that would've worked, you could only answer one.

Keep in mind this was 2002 also. it's not like the communication we have today. Back then just answering and e-mail and replying with answers was the shit. The problem stemmed from no serious way to comment on the game. It'd been cool to have a forum to post on to give feedback.

I hope that's what they do when they beta TMPS3. Have some kind of set up at ESP where the players that are beta testing it can physicly reply with feedback. I belive that'd be pretty key in getting to know what the game is about when people start sinking thier teeth into it.

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They should set it up like the Crysis 2 beta was. Basically, there was a website that resembled this Facebook/Twitter mashup. It was a wall that you posted on, and the devs actually responded and fixed shit. Almost like Ask TMA, but serious.

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@Demonic_Clown46 I didn't say we would not do a demo. We have not decided. My point is that our BETA is going to be a real beta (i.e. game tuning still very raw in some areas; lots of gameplay balance and tuning changes between beta launch and game launch). So when you ask if we're doing a public beta and you say you want it more like a demo, then the answer is no, we won't be doing that. We MAY do a DEMO tho but we'd call it a demo and it's not a beta. But I'm almost 100% sure that our beta is not going to be a public beta where lots of non Sony folks get codes and post all about it on the net. Beta- again- to us- means the game is still knee deep in game development. We don'

Guess no pub beta then?

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Looks like a private beta and a possible demo afterwards.

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wonder if hes gonna give it to the gamers that reserved it or some of us tma members :-?

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Dunno. I'd think that he'd give it to a select few of TMA members (probably Mort, Nightshade, Magnum, etc.). If it is pre-order, then I need to get a fucking PS3 fast.

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